New Canon Digital Rebel XTi

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jiwq

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Dust cleaning doesn't really matter to me. I'll wait til they have something really useful like internal image stabilization.

As for full frame on a consumer DSLR, don't expect to see that any time soon. Not even Nikon has bothered to do that. What's all the fuss over full frame anyway?
 

Ika

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Anyone know what model number this is? I would guess 400D...

Anyway, looks okay - the megapixelage is nothing to scream about, though the bigger screen and the self-cleaning jig is nice. If only it had in-camera IS... Looks like the 350D is still the one to stick with.
 

ElFenix

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Originally posted by: jiwq
Dust cleaning doesn't really matter to me. I'll wait til they have something really useful like internal image stabilization.

As for full frame on a consumer DSLR, don't expect to see that any time soon. Not even Nikon has bothered to do that. What's all the fuss over full frame anyway?

no crop factor, lower noise or higher megapixels or a combination thereof, no crop factor, better image quality, no crop factor, etc.
 

EvilYoda

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I'm looking to get a DSLR this fall, so I imagine with a nice Dell E&A coupon, I should be able to get the body for a nice sum. Good times.
 

jamesbond007

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1. Bigger Screen: Nice, but not really needed IMHO.
2. Cleaning Sensor: Great, definitely will be handy for the lazy! ;)
3. More Megapixels: Great for those times when you really have to crop.

I once made the mistake of looking through a 1DS viewfinder. Going back to my 300D was killer!!!

Bigger viewfinder > Bigger LCD

I cannot wait until I'm out of college so I can afford some real gear and more multi-thousand dollar lenses! :D Wishful thinking, but a 200 1.8/IS would be a great announcement.
 

kami333

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Originally posted by: jiwq
Dust cleaning doesn't really matter to me. I'll wait til they have something really useful like internal image stabilization.

As for full frame on a consumer DSLR, don't expect to see that any time soon. Not even Nikon has bothered to do that. What's all the fuss over full frame anyway?

You may have to wait a while. If Canon/Nikon had internal IS/VR in their cameras, they wouldn't be able to sell their IS/VR lenses, which can cost as much as a budget DSLR themselves. Although since Pentax and Sony are coming out with image stabilization on entry level DSLRs they may have to eventually.
 

fuzzybabybunny

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Originally posted by: kami333
Originally posted by: jiwq
Dust cleaning doesn't really matter to me. I'll wait til they have something really useful like internal image stabilization.

As for full frame on a consumer DSLR, don't expect to see that any time soon. Not even Nikon has bothered to do that. What's all the fuss over full frame anyway?

You may have to wait a while. If Canon/Nikon had internal IS/VR in their cameras, they wouldn't be able to sell their IS/VR lenses, which can cost as much as a budget DSLR themselves. Although since Pentax and Sony are coming out with image stabilization on entry level DSLRs they may have to eventually.

I think you'll need in-lens IS for telephoto lenses anyway. I'm pretty sure in-camera IS only works well for lenses that are not telephotos, because a telephoto's optical geometry would require the sensor to displace itself too far to be feasible.
 

kami333

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Originally posted by: fuzzybabybunny
Originally posted by: kami333
Originally posted by: jiwq
Dust cleaning doesn't really matter to me. I'll wait til they have something really useful like internal image stabilization.

As for full frame on a consumer DSLR, don't expect to see that any time soon. Not even Nikon has bothered to do that. What's all the fuss over full frame anyway?

You may have to wait a while. If Canon/Nikon had internal IS/VR in their cameras, they wouldn't be able to sell their IS/VR lenses, which can cost as much as a budget DSLR themselves. Although since Pentax and Sony are coming out with image stabilization on entry level DSLRs they may have to eventually.

I think you'll need in-lens IS for telephoto lenses anyway. I'm pretty sure in-camera IS only works well for lenses that are not telephotos, because a telephoto's optical geometry would require the sensor to displace itself too far to be feasible.

A lot of people seem to be happy with the K100D and telephoto lens combination. I believe that it covers from 10mm or something to just under 1000mm.

How effective it is, I don't know, but I've seen several threads (dpreview, ll, etc) that argue that it is just as effective since the displacement is only tenths of a mm.
 

fuzzybabybunny

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Originally posted by: kami333
Originally posted by: fuzzybabybunny
Originally posted by: kami333
Originally posted by: jiwq
Dust cleaning doesn't really matter to me. I'll wait til they have something really useful like internal image stabilization.

As for full frame on a consumer DSLR, don't expect to see that any time soon. Not even Nikon has bothered to do that. What's all the fuss over full frame anyway?

You may have to wait a while. If Canon/Nikon had internal IS/VR in their cameras, they wouldn't be able to sell their IS/VR lenses, which can cost as much as a budget DSLR themselves. Although since Pentax and Sony are coming out with image stabilization on entry level DSLRs they may have to eventually.

I think you'll need in-lens IS for telephoto lenses anyway. I'm pretty sure in-camera IS only works well for lenses that are not telephotos, because a telephoto's optical geometry would require the sensor to displace itself too far to be feasible.

A lot of people seem to be happy with the K100D and telephoto lens combination. I believe that it covers from 10mm or something to just under 1000mm.

How effective it is, I don't know, but I've seen several threads (dpreview, ll, etc) that argue that it is just as effective since the displacement is only tenths of a mm.

Ooooooo.... very interesting to know! Even if in-lens IS is better for telephoto, any IS is better than none. :)
 

JulesMaximus

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Enough with the 1.6x focal multiplier!!! Give me a full frame digital SLR that won't break the bank!
 

randomlinh

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nice, but just a mini refresh. I'd like to see the true replacement for the 20D... I feel the 30D was just a hair over a stopgap sollution. That and it'd push the used market for the 30D :D

But for the bigger screen.. it really is nice to have. however, i would settle for the smaller screen if I had a bigger and brighter viewfinder... it's a bit difficult to manually focus on my 300D :( I got an eyepiece extender because I wear glasses and that really hurt so I had to return it.

and yeah, I'd like something along the size of the 300D.. i like this size with the grip.
 

A1CSpence

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It's a decent upgrade from the XT. I was hoping for a higher frame rate, but I will probably buy one anyway.
 

AmigaMan

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Originally posted by: sygyzy
XTi vs D80. Hmm?

I was wondering about comparing it versus the Nikon D50? While I like my S2, I'd like to get some high quality lenses.
 

91TTZ

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Originally posted by: PricklyPete
Nice...but they pretty much had to do this to "keep up with the Jones". I really want to see this sensor (or a 12MP sensor) make its way into the 30D...or its replacement even if it did just come out.

Canon, please come out with a 35D or something. I don't like the Rebel interface...I much prefer the interface of the 20D/5D/etc.

:heart:'s his 20D...

They're leading the way, they're not "keeping up" with anybody.

Canon is better than the rest.
 

AndrewR

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Seems like a weak rehash to me. By not fixing the ergonomics, they maintain their tiered camera lineup -- if you want decent ergonomics, you'll go for the 30D (for current models). If you can tolerate a toy-like camera with a dark viewfinder, go for this new one.

I like the 20D (except for the lack of spotmeter) and the 30D, though the price is just too high for me on the 30D, but Canon's entry level offerings are too hamstrung. It should be interesting to see what Sony brings out at Photokina since rumor has them at least producing one higher level entry than the A100. It could either be another APS-C sensor (a mid-level offering as a successor to the Maxxum 7D to compete with the 30D) or a professional level product to compete at the high end (to match the Carl Zeiss lenses coming out) since Konica-Minolta never produced a 9-series professional digital camera.

This is a fun time of the year for camera products. :D
 

Staples

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I love the LCD upgrade and the big increase in resolution.

I wonder if the viewfinder is bigger/better quality than the one on the XT. The mirrors in mine are not even smooth. The picture looks distorted when looking though the viewfinder.