New Bush Fear Ads One Uses Wolf Image To Show America Will Be Attacked Under Kerry, 2nd says We Will Be At Risk 10-23-04

dmcowen674

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10-22-2004 New Bush Ad Uses Wolf Image to Attack Kerry

President Bush's campaign, using powerful imagery of prowling wolves, suggests in a new TV ad that the country under John Kerry would be vulnerable to terrorists because "weakness attracts those who are waiting to do America harm."

It implies that terrorists would take advantage of a Kerry presidency and the country could face another attack, which Bush and Vice President Dick Cheney have implied on the campaign trail. The vice president said last month the country was likely to be "hit again" if voters made the "wrong choice" in November.

It's certainly playing to fear," said Darrell West, a Brown University political scientist who studies campaign advertising. "It builds logically on other things they've been saying for months."

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Oh the nooeeesss, I have to vote for Bush or I will be eaten by the big bad wolf .

Update: 10-23-2004 2nd Fear Ad

Risk - John Kerry and his Liberal Allies, Can We Afford The Risk???
 

conjur

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Ah...rehashing old lies that have been debunked several times over and then smothering them in fear and hate.


Woo hoo!!


Vote for Bush or.... DIE!! :|
 

Todd33

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I like wolves, I wish they wouldn't demomize predators. Circle of life man. Is Bush calling America a bunch of sheep or something?
 

Train

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Originally posted by: conjur
Ah...rehashing old lies that have been debunked several times over and then smothering them in fear and hate.


Woo hoo!!


Vote for Bush or.... DIE!! :|
you mean like "Vote for Kerry or get drafted!" ?
 

Train

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Originally posted by: Tabb
Im sure AQ really cares which president is in office... :roll:
havent you heard? once a democrat is in office, the rest of the world will love us! Instead of bombs they will send us flowers and jobs.
 

Infohawk

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Originally posted by: Todd33
Is Bush calling America a bunch of sheep or something?

:thumbsup:

:thumbsdown: for the Bush fearmongering. Maybe Kerry can have a video of a bull in a china shop?
 

Bumrush99

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Hmm.. This coming from the guy that spent a month on vacation before the attack in Crawford and that was afraid to fly to Washington after the attacks.

Furthermore, the worst terrorist attack in our history happened on his watch after he had been warned, and this prick has the audacity to be a fear mongerer
 

conjur

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Originally posted by: Train
Originally posted by: conjur
Ah...rehashing old lies that have been debunked several times over and then smothering them in fear and hate.


Woo hoo!!


Vote for Bush or.... DIE!! :|
you mean like "Vote for Kerry or get drafted!" ?
No, I don't.


Pretty sad for Bush to be running ads attacking Kerry for being soft on terrorism when bin Laden attacked us on Bush's watch and now Bush has said, himself, he doesn't care where bin Laden is!!!
 

Train

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Originally posted by: conjur
Originally posted by: Train
Originally posted by: conjur
Ah...rehashing old lies that have been debunked several times over and then smothering them in fear and hate.


Woo hoo!!


Vote for Bush or.... DIE!! :|
you mean like "Vote for Kerry or get drafted!" ?
No, I don't.


Pretty sad for Bush to be running ads attacking Kerry for being soft on terrorism when bin Laden attacked us on Bush's watch and now Bush has said, himself, he doesn't care where bin Laden is!!!
nice thread steer.

Both sides are fearmongering, admit it. And you try the "under bush's watch" phrase which has been beaten to death. please.
 

conjur

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Yes, you did try to steer the thread, didn't you, Train? I steered it right back on course.

You see, you're like Bush. You like to divert attention away from the real source of terror.
 

Train

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Originally posted by: conjur
Yes, you did try to steer the thread, didn't you, Train? I steered it right back on course.

You see, you're like Bush. You like to divert attention away from the real source of terror.
notice you decided not to quote, since your own statement says it all
Ah...rehashing old lies that have been debunked several times over and then smothering them in fear and hate.
fear and hate is what you were talking about, making a generalization, I only added to it, stating an example, the draft fits right in with your "fear and hate" generalisation, dont get pissed because my example came from a different candidate.
 

conjur

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I didn't quote as the quoting was getting deep. And, yes, you were steering into a new direction, different from the topic title.


BTW, here is Kerry's Rapid Response:
http://blog.johnkerry.com/rapi...hives/003606.html#more
FACT CHECK: Bush?s Hand-Picked Choice for Head of the CIA Called for Huge Cuts in Intel

Porter Goss, Hand-Picked By Bush to Head CIA, Wanted to Cut Intel More Than Kerry, And Specifically Targeted ?Human Intelligence.? ?The Bush reelection campaign has been blasting Democratic presidential nominee John F. Kerry as deeply irresponsible for proposing intelligence cuts at the same time. A Bush campaign ad released on Aug. 13 carried a headline: ?John Kerry...proposed slashing Intelligence Budget 6 Billion Dollars.? But the cuts Goss supported are larger than those proposed by Kerry and specifically targeted the ?human intelligence? that has recently been found lacking. The recent report by the commission probing the Sept. 11, 2001, attacks called for more spending on human intelligence.?

· Goss Cuts Would Have Cut Intelligence Personnel By 4% or More. ?But three months earlier, on June 22, Goss was one of six original co-sponsors of legislation titled H.R. 1923, called the Restructuring a Limited Government Act. Among other things, the legislation, written by then-Rules Committee Chairman Gerald B.H. Solomon (R-N.Y.), directed that "the president shall, for each of fiscal years 1996 through 2000, reduce the total number of military and civilian personnel employed by, or assigned or detailed to, elements of the Intelligence Community by not less than 4 percent of the baseline number" of employees on Sept. 30, 1995. There are believed to be about 20,000 employees of the CIA, and an unknown number of others in the military intelligence agencies.

Bush Administration Proposed Intelligence Cuts AFTER 9-11. In the early days after the Sept. 11, 2001, attacks, the Bush White House cut by nearly two-thirds an emergency request for counterterrorism funds by the FBI, an internal administration budget document shows. The document, dated Oct. 12, 2001, shows that the FBI requested $1.5 billion in additional funds to enhance its counterterrorism efforts with the creation of 2,024 positions. But the White House Office of Management and Budget cut that request to $531 million. Attorney General John D. Ashcroft, working within the White House limits, cut the FBI's request for items such as computer networking and foreign language intercepts by half, cut a cyber-security request by three quarters and eliminated entirely a request for ?collaborative capabilities.?

Bush Provided Only One-Third Of Counter-Terrorism Funding In 2005 Budget. Bush?s FY05 intelligence budget only provided a third of the counter-terrorism funding that our intelligence agencies said they needed to fight terrorism next year. The CIA Counterterrorism Center is only funded at 20% in the President?s budget request. The other 80% of the money it needs to fight al Qaeda will have to come from supplementals. The bill would authorize an estimated $40 billion for intelligence spending, including roughly $30 billion for defense intelligence agencies and $5 billion for the CIA. Exact funding levels are classified.

Washington Post: Republican Criticism on Kerry Intel Record is Wrong. ?President Bush, in his first major assault on Sen. John F. Kerry's legislative record, said this week that his Democratic opponent proposed a $1.5 billion cut in the intelligence budget, a proposal that would ?gut the intelligence services,? and one that had no co-sponsors because it was ?deeply irresponsible??.In fact, the Republican-led Congress that year approved legislation that resulted in $3.8 billion being cut over five years from the budget of the National Reconnaissance Office -- the same program Kerry said he was targeting.?

In 1995, a Secret Billion Dollar Slush Fund was Found in the Intelligence Budget Which Served as a Opportunity To Cut Waste And Abuse. ?The White House said yesterday it was "inexcusable" that the top secret agency that manages U.S. spy satellites had reportedly hoarded $ 1 billion in unspent funds?The unspent funds were discovered after the Senate intelligence committee questioned a luxurious $ 300 million headquarters the NRO was building in a Washington suburb.? Kerry was part of bipartisan effort to cut waste & abuse in the NRO. The $1.5 billion cut Kerry proposed represented about the same amount Sen. Arlen Specter (R-Pa.), then chairman of the Senate Select Committee on Intelligence, told the Senate that same day he wanted to cut from the intelligence spending bill based on unspent, secret funds that had been accumulated ?without informing the Pentagon, CIA or Congress.?

Kerry Strongly Supports Increased Intelligence Funding ? Including $250 Billion in the Previous 8 Years ? A 50% Increase Since 1996 ? John Kerry has strongly supported recent increases in Intelligence funding, and, in the wake of 9/11, has supported the bipartisan call for an even larger increase in intelligence funding. According to a report issued by the Center for Defense Information entitled ?Intelligence Funding and the War on Terror? John Kerry has supported approximately $250 billion in Intelligence funding over the past eight years alone. The report concludes that Kerry has supported a 50% increase in intelligence funding since 1996.
 

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I'll tell you what, I just saw Bush's new 9/11 ad, and it may be the most effective political ad I've ever seen.. Kerry's 9/11 ad is a basic attack ad like any other, but wow... Bush hits a huge emotional chord with the "9/11 daughter" spot. Holy crap, I would run those ads and only those ads in the swing states 24/7... it's political propaganda at its finest.
 

Train

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Originally posted by: conjur
I didn't quote as the quoting was getting deep. And, yes, you were steering into a new direction, different from the topic title.
oh now its "different from the topic title"? and your quoting budget cuts? how are budget cuts fearmongering again? you have a knack for pulling up irrelevant facts and making them sound like they back up your argument.

 

CycloWizard

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Originally posted by: conjur
Ah...rehashing old lies that have been debunked several times over and then smothering them in fear and hate.


Woo hoo!!


Vote for Bush or.... DIE!! :|
You can debunk hypothetical situations? The force is strong with this one. :roll:
 

conjur

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Originally posted by: CycloWizard
Originally posted by: conjur
Ah...rehashing old lies that have been debunked several times over and then smothering them in fear and hate.


Woo hoo!!


Vote for Bush or.... DIE!! :|
You can debunk hypothetical situations? The force is strong with this one. :roll:
Considering a big part of it is that "$6 billion" cut from intelligence spending, yes, debunked before.
 

dmcowen674

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Originally posted by: cwjerome
I'll tell you what, I just saw Bush's new 9/11 ad, and it may be the most effective political ad I've ever seen.. Kerry's 9/11 ad is a basic attack ad like any other, but wow... Bush hits a huge emotional chord with the "9/11 daughter" spot. Holy crap, I would run those ads and only those ads in the swing states 24/7... it's political propaganda at its finest.

Tell you what, speaking of daughters, all he has to do is strutt his daughter Barbara in some Hollywood style slinky outfit and he'd get my vote. :shocked:
 

Train

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Originally posted by: dmcowen674
Originally posted by: cwjerome
I'll tell you what, I just saw Bush's new 9/11 ad, and it may be the most effective political ad I've ever seen.. Kerry's 9/11 ad is a basic attack ad like any other, but wow... Bush hits a huge emotional chord with the "9/11 daughter" spot. Holy crap, I would run those ads and only those ads in the swing states 24/7... it's political propaganda at its finest.

Tell you what, speaking of daughters, all he has to do is strutt his daughter Barbara in some Hollywood style slinky outfit and he'd get my vote. :shocked:
what are you talking about, Jenna is way hotter. (umm, I think, which one is which?)

 

dmcowen674

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Originally posted by: Train
Originally posted by: dmcowen674
Originally posted by: cwjerome
I'll tell you what, I just saw Bush's new 9/11 ad, and it may be the most effective political ad I've ever seen.. Kerry's 9/11 ad is a basic attack ad like any other, but wow... Bush hits a huge emotional chord with the "9/11 daughter" spot. Holy crap, I would run those ads and only those ads in the swing states 24/7... it's political propaganda at its finest.

Tell you what, speaking of daughters, all he has to do is strutt his daughter Barbara in some Hollywood style slinky outfit and he'd get my vote. :shocked:
what are you talking about, Jenna is way hotter. (umm, I think, which one is which?)

Naaawww, Jenna looks like any run of the mill WB latest roll out.