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[Fanatical Meat]

Time to replace my nearly 10 year old system.

I'd like to have an option to upgrade to the ryzen 3000 or whatever may come next year but I may not. I live near a Microcenter so its not a big deal if I need a motherboard too if/when I decide to upgrade again.

I need something reliable and I do game however my gaming needs are minimal since my Q9650 meets then adequately

I'll keep my current:
micron ssd
my case (Antech P180)
My Ausus 280x video card
Windows 10

AMD Ryzen 5 2600 with Wraith Stealth Cooler, ASRock X470 Gaming K4 CPU/Motherboard Bundle
https://www.microcenter.com/product...-asrock-x470-gaming-k4-cpu-motherboard-bundle

I like the idea of a 65 watt processor but am I being cheap not spending $40/$80 more for a 2600x or 2700x?
I have no desire to over clock
How is this motherboard? I've been burned by crappy quality AMD boards before and I do not want to go down that road again.

Per Crucial I could have 2 sets for a total of 64GB at minimal ddr3000 speed, 3200 may be possible
https://www.crucial.com/usa/en/fatal1ty-x470-gaming-k4/CT12314881

I am obsessed with the idea of 32GB of memory with potential go move to 64GB

I really like the idea of this power supply but again I may be going overboard with it. The potential to run fan-less is very attractive.

https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817151219

How is the stock AMD cooler and I'll likely change the fans in my case, I have 3 120mm case fans any suggestoins

@VirtualLarry @Markfw @ElFenix @Shmee Calling in the experts, thank you guys.

 

[VirtualLarry]

I'm using the stock cooler on my R5 1600 CPUs, but then again, I'm no longer overclocking them, either. 1-2 BSOD a month was too much for me to deal with.

I agree, due to RAM limitations with 1000- and 2000-series CPUs, best to go with 2x16GB kit of RAM up-front, rather than 4x8GB kit of ram down the road. (I tried 4x8GB, could only get 2400 speed out of them.)

Edit: TBH, I'm not a huge fan of "silent" (fan off) PSUs, as just a little air movement can make a big difference. But if you "need silence", I suppose that's an option. I do appreciate that my GPU fans stop when I'm just on the desktop. Then again, they have rather massive multi-fin heatpipe heatsinks, compared to PSU components.

If you're gaming, you may want the 2600X, to take advantage of XFR2, if you can. I've heard that the speedups can be substantial. That one should only go for the 2600, if budget- or power-constrained.

Edit: There are rumors that the X570 chipset may be making rounds, and that it is based on a chip(set) used by the Epyc platform, and may offer advantages over X470. I don't know how true that is, or how soon it will appear. (I know that you want to build this right away.)

You can always buy another motherboard in the future.

 

[Shmee]

You may want to get an 2600X or 2700X, I honestly would go with the 2700X, its not that much more. The benefit of the 2600X over the 2600 in addition to higher clocks, is that it comes with a better stock cooler.

Overall the AMD coolers are pretty good with Ryzen.

As for the motherboard, it should be fine. You could be fine even with a B450, but if you want to be a bit more future proof for CPU upgrades in the future such as to the 3000 series, an X470 may make sense. Reason is better power delivery if you want a 12 core etc.

For the memory, try to get samsung bdie, if possible, currently you may have trouble running 32 or 64 GB at higher speeds. Depends on motherboard and CPU.

Lastly, a bios update is recommended with Ryzen for better memory support.

 

[Gt403cyl]

The 2600X/2700X gets my vote as well, basically XFR does really well on Ryzen 2xxx chips and for those who want a bit better performance without having to manually overclock they are ideal.

I can’t comment on the motherboard specifically, just never really used AsRock boards.

As for ram I also second 2x16GB to start, ideally 3000MHz or higher to take full advantage of infinity fabric benefits. Bdie is the best option as said above.

 

[Fanatical Meat]

I'm using the stock cooler on my R5 1600 CPUs, but then again, I'm no longer overclocking them, either. 1-2 BSOD a month was too much for me to deal with.

I agree, due to RAM limitations with 1000- and 2000-series CPUs, best to go with 2x16GB kit of RAM up-front, rather than 4x8GB kit of ram down the road. (I tried 4x8GB, could only get 2400 speed out of them.)

Edit: TBH, I'm not a huge fan of "silent" (fan off) PSUs, as just a little air movement can make a big difference. But if you "need silence", I suppose that's an option. I do appreciate that my GPU fans stop when I'm just on the desktop. Then again, they have rather massive multi-fin heatpipe heatsinks, compared to PSU components.

If you're gaming, you may want the 2600X, to take advantage of XFR2, if you can. I've heard that the speedups can be substantial. That one should only go for the 2600, if budget- or power-constrained.

Edit: There are rumors that the X570 chipset may be making rounds, and that it is based on a chip(set) used by the Epyc platform, and may offer advantages over X470. I don't know how true that is, or how soon it will appear. (I know that you want to build this right away.)

You can always buy another motherboard in the future.

Cool thanks!
Power supply has a fan it just has 3 modes one of which is silent/no fan. Not sure if the fan switches it’s mode automatically
Would a 2600x run at lower power when it doesn’t need the power?

 

[Fanatical Meat]

B die Samsung memory is just too much of a porking than I can accept at the moment.
Particularly with 32GB

 

[Fanatical Meat]

Samsung b die finder thinks this is it

https://m.newegg.com/products/N82E1...m_re=F4-3200C15D-32GVR-_-20-232-234-_-Product

Main reason I was shopping crucial is they are a reliable vendor regarding if the memory works or not with a given motherboard

**I know this sounds stupid but should I be concerned with the intel z370 xmp stuff?

Second pain in the ass question is 650 watts enough? Power supply calculators seems to want 710 watts provided I go with a 2700x, I know most power supplies are crap and they’re likely building extra in.

 

[VirtualLarry]

Yes, if you go with the 2700X, and OC, and keep the 280x, go with a 750W.

 

[ElFenix]

wow i'm an expert

i think a snowsilent is probably overkill. i'm running a few seasonic focus golds, one + (full mod) and one regular (semi-mod). just wait for a sale at newegg, getting an 850W unit for well under $100 is quite doable (mine was $70 AR).

that said, since you're not overclocking you could run a good 500 watt unit and be ok. it's just that a good 500 watt unit and a good 750 or 850 watt unit are nearly the same price. i'm watching my UPS's power meter and with a 1080, a 1060, and a 1700x all folding (and my 32" monitor) i'm peaking at 441 watts from the wall.

 

[Fanatical Meat]

wow i'm an expert

i think a snowsilent is probably overkill. i'm running a few seasonic focus golds, one + (full mod) and one regular (semi-mod). just wait for a sale at newegg, getting an 850W unit for well under $100 is quite doable (mine was $70 AR).

that said, since you're not overclocking you could run a good 500 watt unit and be ok. it's just that a good 500 watt unit and a good 750 or 850 watt unit are nearly the same price. i'm watching my UPS's power meter and with a 1080, a 1060, and a 1700x all folding (and my 32" monitor) i'm peaking at 441 watts from the wall.

You are and you are right too. 750 gold Seasonic is just dollars cheaper than 850 gold Seasonic, like a McDonalds lunch amount of money.
I thought over sizing power supply was a bad thing though.

 

[UsandThem]

I thought over sizing power supply was a bad thing though.

Too much of an over-sized power supply is wasteful as many are not as efficient at ultra low loads, not that they are necessarily "bad".

People who insist on buying a 1200w monster PSU for a system that will only pull 300w are the ones we all give a hard time to. But buying a 100w larger unit because it's at the same/lower price, that makes sense to most people. And I think I bought almost all my power supplies with that in mind (they were cheaper than their smaller counterparts at the time).

 

[Fanatical Meat]

Too much of an over-sized power supply is wasteful as many are not as efficient at ultra low loads, not that they are necessarily "bad".

People who insist on buying a 1200w monster PSU for a system that will only pull 300w are the ones we all give a hard time to. But buying a 100w larger unit because it's at the same/lower price, that makes sense to most people. And I think I bought almost all my power supplies with that in mind (they were cheaper than their smaller counterparts at the time).

So I shouldn’t get the 1,300 watt Hive(?) power supply I saw for $80?

#sarcasm

Thanks man

Any case fan suggestions? Are antecs & Noctua fans still the best?

 

[UsandThem]

Any case fan suggestions? Are antecs & Noctua fans still the best?

My favorite case fans right now are the Noctua NF-A14 PWM (or to save a few bucks the NF-P14s redux 1200 PWM), the Be Quiet Silent Wings 3 140mm PWM BL064, and the Phanteks PH-F140XP.

All three of those are excellent fans, that move a good amount of air quietly. Newegg has the best deal on the Be Quiet fans, and if you buy 2+. they get cheaper (currently $20.49).