New build would like some input

[Lionel]

I feel I have done enough research and reading to put another one together that fits my budget. I have been foraging through AnandTech, THG, Guru3D and many, many others, trying to make sure what I buy isn't going too completely crap out or be worse than the computer I have now. And from what I can gather, the most intelligent feedback seems to be in these forums.

I have decided to go with this build unless anyone here has a better suggestion, my limit is 1100.00. Is this stuff going to work well together you think? I am not concerned about NForce3 250GB features at this time.

What I want too get now that I have concerns about that is budgeted for 1100.00.

MB CHTECH VNF3-250 NFORCE3 250
CPU AMD 64 |3400+ ATHLON 64
POWER SUPPLY ANTEC TRUEBLUE 480
DDRAM1GB|PC3200 991156 MUSHKIN 2-2-2 unbuffered
CASE COOLERMAS|ATXM TAC-T01-E1C

What I have now to go with it.

FX5900 w/5950U Bios
Yamaha Y8T-M101 2.0
VIEWSONIC A90f+
1x WD 40 IDE Cavair
1x WD 80 IDE Cavair

These 4 items below will be purchased in or around September and DO NOT have anything to do with the 1100.00 I am going to spend now.

HARDRIVE RAPTOR 74GB SATA x 1 (for now, then another at Raid 0 eventually)
SPEAKERS LOGITECH Z-680 5.1
SOUND AUDIGY2 ZS
VIDEO GEFORCE 6800 (as soon as it is available)


And I was also wondering, with the introduction of socket 939, how likely will it be, they will make a PCIxpress (not sure PCX?) for socket 754? 754 isn't going to be phased out completely is it? I just think boards are realitively cheap in the big picture and I would like to have the option of 754 w/pci express later. So if someone could confirm that I am on the right track, what maybe to expect problem wise with this setup if anything, or is there right now for my price range a system better than this. I would feel so much more confident about my purchasing descision with your input.

Thanks for any help,

Lionel

http://www.anandtech.com/mysystemrig.html?id=27832

 

[Linux23]

ew?

 

[Lionel]

Originally posted by: Linux23
ew?

If you ask me what you are confused about, I can clarify it. But as it is, I can't make heads or tails of your post either.

Are you referring too the Topic Title? If I knew how too fix it I would, but I would think that the people I want some feedback from would understand what I mean, and I don't want too start a new thread over something like that. Just incase ....

ew build would like some input = new build would like some input

Again, I'm not sure what you mean by ew and confused?

Thanks

 

[DKlein]

Pssst look at your title... you missed the N

 

[JSSheridan]

Have a close look at your thread title, and then edit your original post. Socket 754 will be around for a while as the "budget" line for AMD. As for PCI Express (PCI-E, 3GIO), the decision to include it is up to the MB manufacturer. There are/will be chipsets out that support PCI-E, and I speculate AMD boards with PCI-E will be available in Fall and Winter. Anyway, your planned setup looks good, but I have one suggestion. Maybe get PC3500 memory instead of PC3200 to give you more overclocking ability. Peace.

 

[Lionel]

DKlein, thanks I see that. Is there a way I can fix it so I get some input other than post about the missing N in NEW? Is that going too keep me from getting input here at AnandTech regarding the subject matter in my post?

Thanks

 

[Lionel]

Thanks for the reply JSShreidan, I feel better already. As for the PC3200, I only plan too do very light overclocking. The only reason I am even willing too spend the cash on it was based on what I have been hearing others say about it. I would really rather not spend 300.00 on 1gig of ddr, but I don't want too just settle for crap either. How much more is the pc3500? When you say more Overclocking ability, is there anyway you could give me an example in how so or will I not be able too overclock at all with the 3200 222 from mushkin in this setup? I think I understand that the pc3500 is faster, but so much so that I would be wasting my money on the pc3200? And do you personally feel that the muskin 222 special pc3200 is of good quality?

Would it be fair too say now, that the pc3200 muskin is appropriate for me, overkill, or inadequate?

Finally, as far as overclocking goes, I was under the impression that I would not be able too overclock the 64 3400+, is that true or not? If I have too break out soldering irons and what not, or take kitchen knives too my processor I will not be bothering with it. I know the board according too a few reviews was an excellent choice (they say) for overclocking and price. Which kind of makes me assume that I can overclock 64 3400+, but I'm honestly just not that informed about it. I don't want too get it and find out that it won't overclock if the color of my room is biege in some small print.

I also plan on using the stock HSF (still learning abbreviations, Heat Sink & Fan?), would that be wise? I hear it is a perfectly good HSF and some have not bothered with replacing it for something aftermarket other than water. Do you know of any good HSF's for the A64 that make a such an improvement too warrent spending even 10.00 - 50.00 for?

Most importantly, is there any reason too overclock this setup? I am under the impression this is pretty damn fast as it is. Does anyone have something similair that is just choking up on everything at stock speeds? This is going too be my gaming rig by the way.

Thanks

 

[sharq]

I think your setup is good. I don't have any experience with the 64bit cpu's, but if you've done your HW you should be fine as far as compatibility is concerned.
Just as a side note, most of the places where you have used "too" the correct spelling is "to" (sorry, I just think it can help ppl to know their grammatical errors)

 

[Lionel]

Sharq, yea thanks alot, I am an American, born and raised. But I was never good at all with english sentence structures, and I grunt and mumble alot. Even though this is abit off topic, how do I know when to use too and to?

Thanks for your help

Lionel

 

[sharq]

Say it loud and say it proud! (about being American )
I'm not too good with english myself, but I've learnt from my mistakes. In my case it was always because I lost points on papers due to bad grammar and spelling. Anyways, the quote below should help describe best when to use "too": (I think they do a better job of explaining it than I could)

too
adv.

1. In addition; also: He's coming along too.
2. More than enough; excessively: She worries too much.
3. To a regrettable degree: My error was all too apparent.
4. Very; extremely; immensely: He's only too willing to be of service.

(from dictionary.com)

 

[Matthias99]

Originally posted by: sharq
Say it loud and say it proud! (about being American )
I'm not too good with english myself, but I've learnt from my mistakes. In my case it was always because I lost points on papers due to bad grammar and spelling. Anyways, the quote below should help describe best when to use "too": (I think they do a better job of explaining it than I could)

too
adv.

1. In addition; also: He's coming along too.
2. More than enough; excessively: She worries too much.
3. To a regrettable degree: My error was all too apparent.
4. Very; extremely; immensely: He's only too willing to be of service.

(from dictionary.com)

The silly rule I learned in grade school was that "too" is used when you have "more" or "a lot" of something, because it has two 'o's instead of just one.

Also, "dessert" (ie, what you eat after dinner, as opposed to "desert", which is a large, flat, sandy wasteland) has two 's'es, since you always want more dessert.

 

[Lionel]

Well I tried to fix it, and I couldn't find a reason to use TOO at all in the first post not sure if that is right or not. Some things just seemed like either would work depending on the amount of inflection I use when I actually "SAY" it. I have been doing that for as long as I can remember, I hope I didn't look too dumb heh.

Thanks again Sharq,

Lionel

 

[Lionel]

Very useful Matthias, I will try and remember that, thank you.

Lionel

 

[JSSheridan]

You can overclock your system without any physical modifications by increasing the default HyperTransport bus frequency. Since the clock of the memory bus is set from the HT bus by a ratio (1:1 is best), increasing the HT bus will increase the memory clock. To insure that the memory doesn't limit your overclock, I would recommend PC3500. The Mushkin you picked out is a quality product, but at $350 at Newegg, I would rather get some PC3500 for less despite the higher latencies. That's just my opinion though.

 

[Lionel]

JSSheridan, thanks for clearing that up. Good advice, thank you.


Lionel