New Build Won't Post

[gameover]

First let me say I'm ashamed that I can solve this myself. I've built about a dozen new systems over the last few years and never had this problem.

I picked up Fry's mother board and cpu combo last weekend and I can't get a new build to post. It powers on but I get no video out.

Below the system pieces
MB - ECS 6100PM-M2
CPU - AM2 x2 4200
Ram - Adata DDR2 800 2x 2G - 1.8v
PSU - Antec 430w 24 pin

Its all in a Antec p180 and I've tried with a 6600gt and with the on board video.

Basically everything powers on but I get no video. I've tried checking all the normal basic mistakes.

Extra 4 pin power plugged in? - Check
Memory in both slots and each stick on it own - Check
Everything setup up just MB / CPU / Ram / 1 Hard drive - Check
Jumper settings all correct - Check
Read mother board book for anything I missed - Check
Mother board is dead? - Returned and replaced with a new one already
CPU is dead? - Returned and replaced with a new one already
PSU Bunk? - Confirmed it works with another system
Bios reset? - Several times, via jumper and battery removal

The only thing I haven't checked is the ram because its brand new and I couldn't have possibly gotten 2 bad sticks...... I also don't have anything to test these with.

What in the hell am I missing..........?

Edit - Ram ruled out bought some cheap DDR2 667 rated for 1.8v also. Same symptoms.

 

[Concatenation]

Did you check to see if the monitor or its connector is bad?

 

[MarcVenice]

Maybe you fried the ram with static ? Who knows, you don't have 1 single stick of ddr2 ram in a different system anywhere ?

 

[webada]

did you try with one stick ram boot up?

 

[RadiclDreamer]

Any post beeps at all?

 

[thegisguy]

Got to be the ram since you seem to eliminated everything else.

 

[Xsorovan]

Had a problem JUST like this recently. 2 things I discovered and not sure which one fixed the problem: 1. The video card was suggested at a higher rating than my PSU could handle, pulled it out. 2. The RAM is what got me. 2 sticks, one was bad. Put in replacement RAM and everything posted just fine.

Just some ideas. Let us know how it turns out.

 

[gameover]

Did you check to see if the monitor or its connector is bad?

Yup, I'm using the monitor to type this.

did you try with one stick ram boot up?

I tried using just one of the sticks in every slot in every possible combo.

Any post beeps at all?

I can only get a beep if there is no ram installed. With no ram installed I get just 1 continuous beep.

Got to be the ram since you seem to eliminated everything else.

Maybe you fried the ram with static ? Who knows, you don't have 1 single stick of ddr2 ram in a different system anywhere ?

I'm pretty much at this point. I didn't think it would be possible to get 2 bunk sticks of ram. Even if 1 stick is dead the system should be fine. The only other thing I can think of is that the Ram and motherboard don't like each other.

Sorry about topic in the wrong forum. Didn't notice there was a computer help.

 

[boomerang]

Did you try it out of the case? I realize there have been several boards involved, but you're at the end of the troubleshooting trail.

It's that or the memory. It's all that's left. Unless there's a compatibility problem as you suggested, but it seems unlikely.

What are you using for a CPU cooler? Does it have a four pin connector?

 

[gameover]

What are you using for a CPU cooler? Does it have a four pin connector?

I'm not currently using a CPU fan with a 4 pin connection. I'm using an old retail AMD heatsink / fan combo. I noticed the difference when I first got everything but I ruled that out early. From what I understand the 4th pin is for fan speed control and not necessary.

I also intended to run with out a CPU fan plugged in once I move everything to an HTPC case. In about a month the board / CPU are supposed to go into an Antec Fusion with a Sythce Mini Ninja on top that would sit about 2 inches from 2 1200mm fans.

Did you try it out of the case? I realize there have been several boards involved, but you're at the end of the troubleshooting trail.

I considered trying everything out of the case but haven't yet. I guess just head back to Fry's and try a new fan.

 

[RadiclDreamer]

I'm going to say its gotta be ram, can you test said ram in another box just to make sure?

 

[gameover]

I actually already tried new ram. I edited the original post but forgot it out of my last post. I tested with some new cheap DDR 2 667.

I did just get back from Fry's to rule out a fan and noticed something wierd. I saw several fans listing support for AM2 boards and almost all had 3 pin connectors. I finally found a 4 pin and it was the only one labeled as supporting Phenoms. The board is an AM2+ so now I'm thinking maybe its a new requirement for AM2+ boards or the bios are gay on the ECS and require a 4 pin fan connector.

Fingers crossed, going to check.

 

[gameover]

And it's a bust!

Just tried the system on cardboard with an am2+ 4 pin fan, with 2 sets of ram in every possible combo and NOTHING!

Just to recap folks

2 different mother boards
2 different CPUs
2 different sets of Ram both rated at 1.8v
2 different PSUs
On board video + discrete video card tested
2 different wall sockets not on the same circuit
24 pin and 4 pin power connector plugged in every time.
A bunch of CMOS resets
no magnetized screw driver
components tested outside and inside the case.
Jumpers checked vs manual

and no post no video. The only beep code I can get is 1 solid tone if I don't install ram

After returning the first mother board I've babied everything. Anti-static bags, grounding myself first, etc...

I think the only thing I'm left with is.................. God. Yes God didn't want me to take advantage of the Fry's $60 combo.

But if any of you can think of something I've missed throw it at me.

 

[capsgs]

Did you ever find a solution to this one? I am experiencing the same exact issues almost verbatem.

 

[thegisguy]

Stupid question, but I thought I would at least throw it out there. Did you use two different power cables attached to the two different PSUs? I have had bad ones in the past.