You know, at times you seem to be quite out of touch with reality, and you have a habit of applying very selectively skewed logic to your arguments.
a) Even if the Ryzen 5 1500X is the second-lowest Ryzen SKU to be launched, it is by no means a low-end CPU, and it's not even remotely comparable to the Pentium G4560. IPC is similar between the two, the 1500X runs at 3.5-3.7GHz (3.9 with XFR) versus 3.5 of the G4560 (and 3.0-3.5 of the i5-7400). In other words, in these measures they are reasonably similar, with the Intel CPUs winning out slightly due to slightly higher IPC and software being better optimized for the architecture. Then comes the difference: the G4560 is 2c4t, the i5-7400 is 4c4t, and the 1500X is 4c8t. That's twice as many cores and threads as the G4560. Will that make a big difference in a year or two or three? Of course it will.
b)
No I don't. I'd suggest you reread that so that you perhaps could understand that I'm talking about them in two different contexts, but I'll spell it out for you just to make sure: in a few years, the 1500X will be a
far better CPU than the G4560. It still won't compare to an i7-7700K for gaming, but it'll still be perfectly usable (while chances are the Pentium will not). When it comes to upgrading, on the other hand, the 7700K will probably still be okay-to-good at that point, but (partially due to 6-core Intel chips being rumored) it will more or less be irrelevant. If we're talking 3-or-so years down the line (which is a
very reasonable time frame for a CPU upgrade), it'll be irrelevant because Intel will long since have abandoned the Z270/LGA1151 platform. Thus, the only upgrade path will be, as I said, either buying used, buying old and semi-outdated stock, or replacing the motherboard as well. While with a 1500X,
the only thing that needs replacing is the CPU. Everything else can stay, unless the OP also wants a GPU upgrade by then. And at that point the OP would have far more choice: want 8 cores 16 threads? Go for it! Much higher clocked Ryzen SKUs will no doubt be out in two-three years too. At no point did I argue that a 1500X would outperform the 7700K in three years - you should take a look at your reading comprehension if that's what you got out of what I wrote. Not to mention that you're suggesting "Buy a PC now, and upgrade the CPU next year!" while mine won't need that for at least two or three. Minimum. Oh, and just to add some perspective: older Intel chips tend not to drop much in price as they age. The cheapest 6700K on in.pcpartpicker.com right now is
more expensive than the cheapest 7700K ... Oh, and as you can already get 6c12t Ryzen CPUs for ₹18 000, chances are he'll save another ₹10 000 compared to an intel 6c12t when that time comes.
c) You keep harping on the RAM, as if adding another 8GB of RAM in a year or two is comparable to replacing the CPU in a year. To quote you: I'm just going to laugh at that.
d)
What on earth are you on about? Where are you getting that sum from? Motherboard, RAM, PSU and ... what? case? SSD? The thing here is, that's completely dumb. Upgrading to a larger SSD doesn't in any way require throwing out the first SSD. So if he goes for my build, and buys a 500GB SSD in a year, that'll be a total of 740GB SSD space compared to your 525GB. I'd call that a win. And yes, making do with 240GB for a year is perfectly manageable. And again: replacing the motherboard isn't necessary unless it should somehow fail. Just not at all. It has good enough components, all necessary features, and is made by a manufacturer known for quality. Same goes for the RAM - you just add more, and that's that, no need to throw away anything. With both that and the SSD, holding off on buying big now might even be economically smart, as chances are SSD and RAM prices will have started dropping again in a year. As for the PSU, I of course agree that a Seasonic-built gold-rated PSU is a lot better than a Corsair Builder series.
e) Let's look at price of ownership and upgrades over, say, three years:
Your proposal:
Purchase price: ~₹65 000
CPU upgrade in one year: ~₹25 000 (I'm being generous here btw)
GPU upgrade in two-three years: ~₹20 000
Total price: ₹110 000, with a great CPU starting one year out.
My proposal: Purchase price: ~₹65 000
RAM and SSD upgrade in one year: ~₹10 000
GPU Upgrade in two-three years: ~₹20 000
Total price: ₹95 000. With more total SSD space, and room for a
far better CPU upgrade down the line (which he could easily put those remaining ₹15 000 into and end up with a far better system that would last another GPU upgrade or two).
My suggestion a) doesn't require a
huge upgrade in just a year (you're suggesting upgrading to a CPU 1/3 of the total build budget, after all!), b) can be upgraded more at will/when the OP can afford it/not out of pure necessity (as the components in question are modular and not system critical), and c) is cheaper in total. I'm drawing the line at three years simply because in my mind that represents ~half the lifespan of my proposed build, and the sweet spot for a CPU upgrade with AMD - while with Intel, he'd either have to settle for an older CPU or replace the motherboard as well. Either way, you end up paying more with Intel.
f)
Again: don't be daft. First off, there's no reason to suspect more than 16GB of RAM will be necessary in 2-3 years, not really in 5-6 either. 8GB has gone from "plenty" to "still enough" in the last decade or so, with system RAM demand growth slowing down. The chances that they'll more than double in 5-6 years are slim at best. And why would he need to replace the PSU in three years? After all, what you're saying here is "Buy this ₹65 000 system, you'll only need to spend as much again in the next two years to keep it working!" - after all, withouth the expensive CPU upgrade in a year, your system is a dud.
g)
As long as all capacitors are solid-state (and not liquid electrolytic) they'll last for ages. I wouldn't worry about that. Same goes for the VRM, unless he suddenly becomes a professional overclocker. USB-C is a point, though, but that's what adapters are for. USB 3.1G2 on the other hand, isn't. Someone with a budget as strict as this won't be buying RAIDed external SSDs in the coming years. And usb 3.1G1 works just fine for everything else. Better audio might be a point, but that depends on what he's connecting to it. A good audio solution won't help low-end headphones or speakers sound better. M.2 WiFi could be nice, but he hasn't mentioned as a wish or requirement. And SLI support outside of the high end is just silly. When the time for a GPU upgrade comes, buying a new, single GPU will
always be better value than buying an old GPU to add to the existing one.
And one last point: resale value when upgrading. In that metric, the 1500X would, again, crush the G4560 no matter if the CPU upgrade happens in one year or three.
But you do have a point with the PSU. As such,
I've updated my list with your case and PSU suggestions. Yes, it's now ₹400 over budget. Hopefully that's within the OPs margin of error.
CPU: AMD Ryzen 5 1500X 3.5GHz Quad-Core Processor (₹16165.00 @ Amazon India)
Motherboard: Asus PRIME B350M-A/CSM Micro ATX AM4 Motherboard (₹8019.00 @ Amazon India)
Memory: Crucial Ballistix Sport LT 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR4-2400 Memory (₹4063.84 @ Amazon India)
Storage: Kingston SSDNow UV400 240GB 2.5" Solid State Drive (₹6339.00 @ Amazon India)
Storage: Western Digital Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive (₹3611.00 @ Amazon India)
Video Card: Zotac GeForce GTX 1060 6GB 6GB Mini Video Card (₹14835.48 @ Amazon India)
Case: Cooler Master Silencio 352 MicroATX Mini Tower Case (₹3792.87 @ Amazon India)
Power Supply: Antec TruePower Classic 750W 80+ Gold Certified ATX Power Supply (₹7920.00 @ Amazon India)
Case Fan: Cooler Master SickleFlow (Red) 69.7 CFM 120mm Fan (₹650.00 @ Amazon India)
Total: ₹65396.19
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