NEW-Build(Gaming)

[Madrox1987]

I previously posted a build that was deemed unnaceptable , due to high prices and the fact that it was not optimized for gaming. I was given a link to an optomized gaming pc build. I am willing to spend a little bit more money and upgrade a few of the parts. What about this for a high end gaming pc? I want to run my games (mostly MMOS and a few FPS such as black ops at max settings to get 60+FPS at either 1920X1080 or higher).

Tower: COOLER MASTER HAF X RC-942-KKN1 Black Steel/ Plastic ATX Full Tower Computer Case

MoBo:MSI P67A-GD65 (B3) LGA 1155 Intel P67 SATA 6Gb/s USB 3.0 ATX Intel Motherboard

GPU: EVGA 015-P3-1583-AR GeForce GTX 580 (Fermi) Black Ops Edition 1536MB 384-bit GDDR5 PCI Express 2.0 x16 HDCP

PS:Antec TruePower New TP-650 650W

CPU:Intel Core i7-2600K Sandy Bridge 3.4GHz (3.8GHz Turbo Boost) LGA 1155 95W Quad-Core Desktop Processor.

Ram:Patriot Viper Xtreme 12GB (3 x 4GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1600 (PC3 12800) Desktop Memory Model PX7312G1600LLK

SSD: Corsair Force CSSD-F60GB2-BRKT 2.5" 60GB SATA II

HD:Seagate Barracuda 7200.12 ST31000528AS 1TB

Lcooling:CORSAIR Hydro H70 CWCH70 120mm High Performance CPU Cooler

 

[mnewsham]

Sandy bridge does not need liquid cooling the Hyper 212+ is more then enough anything more is a waste.

The i7-2600k adds NOTHING to gaming over the i5-2500k save yourself the $100 and get that instead.

The GTX 580 is $150 more then the GTX 570 while only adding 10% more performance the GTX 570 is the better card at 1920x1080.

Sandy Bridge uses dual channel RAM not triple channel get this RAM instead. the 4GB less then what you have wont matter with gaming especially since it is dual channel.

The samsung F3 is a much better HDD.

the HAF X is a bit expensive the HAF 932 is cheaper and just about the same. IMHO.

 

[Anomaly1964]

Mnewsham knows his stuff! +1

 

[Madrox1987]

Thanks for the input, I'll go with the cheaper stuff except for the CPU and GPU.

 

[mnewsham]

Thanks for the input, I'll go with the cheaper stuff except for the CPU and GPU.

Why like a bigger Epenis? My suggestions on the CPU and GPU will lower your performance by a max of 10% (unnoticeable at 1920x1080 as EVERY game runs over 60FPS on a GTX 570) while cutting ~$225 in cost. That is a BIG chunk of your budget. (more then 10% which is the performance you would gain by spending it) It makes no sense from a performance standpoint it is utter lunacy unless you have a specific program that uses the GTX 580 A LOT better then a 570 and the i7 A LOT better then the i5, If not you are wasting money.

 

[Madrox1987]

Alright yeah it was more to have the 'best' video card and all that but when you put it that way... . With all the parts you have switched out compared to what i put there earlier... There will be no hardware incompatibility issues right?

 

[mnewsham]

Alright yeah it was more to have the 'best' video card and all that but when you put it that way... . With all the parts you have switched out compared to what i put there earlier... There will be no hardware incompatibility issues right?

Shouldn't be any problems at all. Before you buy it however post in this thread EVERYTHING that is in your cart at newegg and any questions you might have that way we can make sure there are no problems.

 

[Anomaly1964]

What mnewsham has recommended is basically my build and it's kicking ass!

Damn, I sound like a Mnewsham fanboy...LMAO!

 

[Existen]

@mnewsham
Having read numerous threads and seeing the 2500 recommended over the 2600, I'm curious as to what you think about this.

I'm aware that the hyperthreading offers no advantage in games, however, could there be a situation where, in the near future, the games being developed will take advantage of the HT technology?

The reason I ask is that I currently am in the process of configuring a pc that I will use for ~4 years.

I realize no one can predict the future, but I wasn't sure if there had been chatter about HT technology being utilized in future games. Thanks

 

[LucJoe]

SSD :Corsair Force CSSD-F60GB2-BRKT 2.5" 60GB SATA II

OCZ Vertex2 120GB will be $175AR today at 10AM pst today (shellshocker). It uses the same controller as your Corsair drive. Twice the size for $35 more = good deal!

Just a suggestion...

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...227551&Tpk=OCZ

Also, I don't know how much space you need, but the Samsung F4 2tb drive is an excellent storage drive and has been as low as $75 in the past, it's $89 on newegg right now but still worth a look. Low cost upgrade to double your storage drive.

Enjoy the new build!

 

[mnewsham]

OCZ Vertex2 120GB will be $175AR today at 10AM pst today (shellshocker). It uses the same controller as your Corsair drive. Twice the size for $35 more = good deal!

Just a suggestion...

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...227551&Tpk=OCZ

Also, I don't know how much space you need, but the Samsung F4 2tb drive is an excellent storage drive and has been as low as $75 in the past, it's $89 on newegg right now but still worth a look. Low cost upgrade to double your storage drive.

Enjoy the new build!

OCZ at the moment is having write speed problems on their 64GB drives not sure if it effects the larger capacities. it has to do with the new 25nm NAND if i remember correctly.

 

[mnewsham]

@mnewsham
Having read numerous threads and seeing the 2500 recommended over the 2600, I'm curious as to what you think about this.

I'm aware that the hyperthreading offers no advantage in games, however, could there be a situation where, in the near future, the games being developed will take advantage of the HT technology?

The reason I ask is that I currently am in the process of configuring a pc that I will use for ~4 years.

I realize no one can predict the future, but I wasn't sure if there had been chatter about HT technology being utilized in future games. Thanks

AFAIK there is no reason for that to happen anytime soon, AMD doesnt use hyperthreading (they would lose anyone who uses AMD, ie. alot of budget gamers) and currently most games only use 1 or 2 cores very few actually use 4. I cant see any game within 3 years using more then 4 (maybe a few using 6 or 8 MAYBE) But that doesnt mean the i5-2500k is a bad CPU for those games. after all a core 2 quad if properly clocked is still a very good cpu for gaming and more then enough for the average user. Also with most game developers focusing on consoles we wont see optimization for more cores until the new systems release (current dates are 2015)

 

[betasub]

^ Sound reasoning. Those tempted by the more expensive (+$100?) i7-2600k should be looking to get something extra from it now (even if it is only bragging rights). The most likely future scenario is that new demands on the processor eventually leave all the Sandybridge 2x00 series struggling at a similar point in time.

 

[LucJoe]

OCZ at the moment is having write speed problems on their 64GB drives not sure if it effects the larger capacities. it has to do with the new 25nm NAND if i remember correctly.

Meh, these drives are crazy fast. I've seen the benchmarks of a few percent performance drop with 25nm nand (apparently it needs more overhead or something) but I don't think you would ever feel it when actually using the drive.

 

[mnewsham]

Meh, these drives are crazy fast. I've seen the benchmarks of a few percent performance drop with 25nm nand (apparently it needs more overhead or something) but I don't think you would ever feel it when actually using the drive.

when writing to the drive it caps around 70mb/s IIRC, if writing large files it will be noticed.

 

[Madrox1987]

OK finally done.

This is what is in my shopping cart at newegg.ca

For the case:Cooler Maser HAF: 189.99$
Solid State: Corsair Force CSSD 60GB: 129.99$
Reg Hard Drive: Samsung F3: 74.99$
Motherboard+ ram combo: Corsair vengence 16GB dual channel DDR3
and MSI P67A: 392.98$
Video Card: Evga GTX580 (I know its not better for my rig, but I want the best one I can buy, thinking of the future and such.): 509$.
Processor: Intel I5 2500K: 228.99$
Cooling: Corsaid Liquid cooling: (I went with this because I hate noise and my current pc has liquid cooling and I have had zero problems). 109.99$
Power Supply: 650W Antec: 99.99$
OS: Windows 7 64bit professional: 154.99$
Total cost after tax+ shipping=2,313.50$

It splits my order into two for some reason, one is international shipping and one is domestic.... Must be because they don't have some parts in Canada?

What do you think? I know I overspent on some areas and its just my personal 'schtik' but my budges was 3,500$ when I first decided to get a new pc.. so saving 1,200$ is a huge deal for me. Thanks for your replies!

PS: I am a little worried ordering all this online... I wonder how huge the difference would be if I were to try local... I'll price it out local sometime tonight or tomorrow.

Thanks again-Mathew

 

[Anomaly1964]

OK finally done.

This is what is in my shopping cart at newegg.ca

For the case:Cooler Maser HAF: 189.99$
Solid State: Corsair Force CSSD 60GB: 129.99$
Reg Hard Drive: Samsung F3: 74.99$
Motherboard+ ram combo: Corsair vengence 16GB dual channel DDR3
and MSI P67A: 392.98$
Video Card: Evga GTX580 (I know its not better for my rig, but I want the best one I can buy, thinking of the future and such.): 509$.
Processor: Intel I5 2500K: 228.99$
Cooling: Corsaid Liquid cooling: (I went with this because I hate noise and my current pc has liquid cooling and I have had zero problems). 109.99$
Power Supply: 650W Antec: 99.99$
OS: Windows 7 64bit professional: 154.99$
Total cost after tax+ shipping=2,313.50$

It splits my order into two for some reason, one is international shipping and one is domestic.... Must be because they don't have some parts in Canada?

What do you think? I know I overspent on some areas and its just my personal 'schtik' but my budges was 3,500$ when I first decided to get a new pc.. so saving 1,200$ is a huge deal for me. Thanks for your replies!

PS: I am a little worried ordering all this online... I wonder how huge the difference would be if I were to try local... I'll price it out local sometime tonight or tomorrow.

Thanks again-Mathew

I would think MUCH cheaper online and with that $1200, you can get a kick ass monitor now!

 

[Madrox1987]

Yeah, I think mnewsham is gonna bite me because of the RAM + Mobo combo being so much lol, and I went with liquid cooling and the good vid card, if I went only with his stuff it would have been a bit cheaper, well a lot haha.

 

[Slammy1]

OK finally done.

Video Card: Evga GTX580 (I know its not better for my rig, but I want the best one I can buy, thinking of the future and such.): 509$.
Cooling: Corsaid Liquid cooling: (I went with this because I hate noise and my current pc has liquid cooling and I have had zero problems). 109.99$

If all you're doing is running 1920x1080, some things to consider.

In another year or so that video card will have something even nicer to upgrade to, heck in 6 months it will.

I've always been impressed with the attitude of most water-cool builders. When/if their system springs a leak and takes everything out they dust themselves off and get right back on the horse. Talk about thick-skinned (maybe fat wallet).

There are a number of peripherals you can get with the extra money. More monitors, gaming devices, sound devices, video games, speakers, even a nice receiver to send sound output. The PC itself should represent a relatively small part of the investment (for me it's about a fourth of my system).

 

[Anomaly1964]

Yeah, I think mnewsham is gonna bite me because of the RAM + Mobo combo being so much lol, and I went with liquid cooling and the good vid card, if I went only with his stuff it would have been a bit cheaper, well a lot haha.

Ultimately you have to be happy...

I paid $219 for my Asus Sabertooth board purely because I thought it looked COOL!

 

[Madrox1987]

Ultimately you have to be happy...

I paid $219 for my Asus Sabertooth board purely because I thought it looked COOL!

See I am not alone!!!!! The pc I have now is an Area 51 ALX-X58 and it hasn't leaked in the 1.5 years I've had it. Is leaking a big risk? If so I might reconsider this and go with air.

 

[Anomaly1964]

See I am not alone!!!!! The pc I have now is an Area 51 ALX-X58 and it hasn't leaked in the 1.5 years I've had it. Is leaking a big risk? If so I might reconsider this and go with air.

With Sandybridge it's just a risk I would not take cause it runs so cool anyway...

 

[Madrox1987]

I also saw something that looked nice... Maybe a core I7 + the assus rampage 3?

 

[mnewsham]

I also saw something that looked nice... Maybe a core I7 + the assus rampage 3?

If you are referring to anything not sandy bridge... no if you are referring to the ASUS maximus IV extreme then still no as it costs too much.

Also sandy bridge runs cool really cool the only reason you need liquid cooling is if you are doing extreme(ly stupid) overclocking. You will hit a voltage wall before the temperature is an issue.

And as said above in 6 months the GTX 580 will no longer be top dog, hell As of this morning it isnt even top dog the HD 6990 is the new single card king. buying it just because it is "the best" is all kinds of stupid (no offence) You are better off with a gtx 570 now then upgrading in a year or 18 months.

 

[Madrox1987]

Alright i'll go with air cooling! But yeah I agree its stupid to want that card haha but ME WANT IT! So everything in the card should be all good and compatible? Secondly.... Im really worried to order all this online