I think you misunderstand the purpose of the electoral college.
So tell us what the purpose was at the time & how that relates to today.
I think you misunderstand the purpose of the electoral college.
1. GOP morals and values are not for sale.
2. Democrats have no limits they will stop to to gain voters.
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1. After the election of Trump you could actually write that bullshit?
2. Its already been proven in court, Republicans pass laws to disenfranchise minorities. Its Republicans who have gerrymandered us into a majority of voters still losing seats in states.
That is sometimes how long it takes.They have been going for several centuries now. Any ETA on that?
No.I think you do too.
It’s an antiquated necessity from hundreds of years ago. Just like assigning someone to travel to Washington by foot or horse at the end of winter to cast a vote is a silly idea. There is no modern reason to travel by horse to Washington unless it’s a vacation or some kind of lifetime goal.
So tell us what the purpose was at the time & how that relates to today.
That is sometimes how long it takes.
Ever hear the phrase, "Rome wasn't built in a day?" The empire didn't decline in a single day either.
No.
Why should a country (state) join a union where it doesn't have an equal interest with the other members? Answer: It shouldn't.
Why should a country (state) remain in a union where its equal influence has been removed? Answer: It shouldn't.
See above.
No.
Why should a country (state) join a union where it doesn't have an equal interest with the other members? Answer: It shouldn't.
Why should a country (state) remain in a union where its equal influence has been removed? Answer: It shouldn't.
See above.
I’ll flip this. Why should a State stay in a union where another states votes are far more important?
Do you know why EC makes no sense to you? Because you are absolutely wrong about this.This is a bafflingly ignorant post. A state is any territory unified under a political government. Some of those are countries, some are not. I’m not ‘blinded’ to anything, I’m simply telling you that your definition is unarguably wrong.
States, insofar as the term applies to the United States, are not countries. They do not enjoy a monopoly over the use of force within their boundaries, they do not control their own foreign policy, etc. they are not countries. Period.
Your state does hve far greater power over your day to day life than the federal government does. Very few of the laws that govern your daily living are federal ones.
As far as local governments having more power than the state that’s impossible as all of their powers are derived from the state.
You seem to be ranting about what you wish the distribution of power between the states and the feds would be, not what it actually is.
Before you start lecturing other people on our system of government I suggest you learn the basics of how it works first.
I should be amazed at how many people think this is a good idea, but I'm really not. The fact that they dont understand why its there is the first place, or comparing a national election to a city election tells me all I need to know. Our forefathers were so fearful of what could happen, they implemented this. And Trump is going to rip up the Constitution? Change the rules when he loses? Nope, thats Dems. Like usual, being hypocrites.
No.
Why should a country (state) join a union where it doesn't have an equal interest with the other members? Answer: It shouldn't.
Why should a country (state) remain in a union where its equal influence has been removed? Answer: It shouldn't.
See above.
Do you know why EC makes no sense to you? Because you are absolutely wrong about this.
Why should a country (state) join a union where it doesn't have an equal interest with the other members? Answer: It shouldn't.
Why should a country (state) remain in a union where its equal influence has been removed? Answer: It shouldn't.
Surely the US Federal government has far too much power for states to be 'countries' in any meaningful sense?
Also - is there really much chance that any Republican-leaning state that isn't Texas would actually choose to secede if the electoral college were scrapped? Because that's surely what all this comes down to in the end. Unless you go with the strict legal sense of 'a seat at the UN', the definition of 'country' is actually a bit fuzzy.
England, Scotland and Wales are 'countries' - though some argue Wales is a 'Principality', and God alone knows what Northern Ireland is - but its not terribly clear what that actually means, other than separate teams in the World Cup, so the UK can do badly in it four times as often.
Ultimately, I think, you are a country if you are prepared to go fit alone (and fight for it if necessary). Most of the states that are over-represented are also economically-dependent on the larger states and wouldn't do very well on their own.
Some of them already are or are well on their way to being so.You didn’t answer my question. Every state in the country elects its chief executive through the popular vote and has for centuries. Why aren’t they shitholes?
94% of all campaigning occurred in 12 states and nearly 70% of all campaign events were held in just six
Decent read here, it contains some projections like in 2040 70% or the voting population will have the same effect as 30% of the population.
Some word from the President regarding the EC, plus:
Above figure is in total, not from just "one side" this is from 2016.
https://www.cnn.com/2019/01/10/opin...r-electoral-college-mess-alexander/index.html
But I hear we need to keep the electoral college because if we don’t the election would be decided by just a handful of states.
But I hear we need to keep the electoral college because if we don’t the election would be decided by just a handful of states.
They just mean it would be decided by the wrong states, and wrong type of people, is basically what they are really trying to say.
Kind of what we’re saying too but like anything that has a winner & a loser it’s easier and more fair to go with the majority.
I have no shame, I’ve felt the EC should go away since the late 80s maybe early 90s. Even if Texas were to go blue I’d still say the EC needs to go. No modern purpose for it.
I agree. I been anti EC since i learned about it in high school in the late 80s. I dont care what side wins as long as its fair. To me that just means the losing party needs to do better next time, or adopt a new message/platform that reaches more people.
the 2016 hairbreadth election is actually a norm in presidential contests. Half of all presidential elections have been decided by less than 75,000 votes cast across the country.