New Beastie Boys' album has DRM built-in

[DaveSimmons]

The Beastie Boys may not have approved it -- Ben Harper complained to his label after they copy-protected one of his CDs without asking him. The label has control, not the artist.

Also, the article I read (ZDNet?) said the copy protection on the Velvet Revolver CD still required autoplay installation, so if you've disabled it (or hold down the shift key) the software won't install.

 

[MichaelD]

Originally posted by: DaveSimmons
The Beastie Boys may not have approved it -- Ben Harper complained to his label after they copy-protected one of his CDs without asking him. The label has control, not the artist.

Also, the article I read (ZDNet?) said the copy protection on the Velvet Revolver CD still required autoplay installation, so if you've disabled it (or hold down the shift key) the software won't install.

(I am not real hip on these things)

But your post about "autoplay installation" made me remember. The first time I came across this was when I bought the Damageplan CD. (Pantera's surviving members, et al) It did this same thing.

I WAS able to rip it w/EAC. No probs.

 

[toy4x4]

Originally posted by: geno

But I paid for it damnit and its now MY property to do with as I like

Wrong, you don't own the music, just the right to own a copy of it and listen to that copy. You do not own the music and that doesn't automatically give you the right to duplicate it.

There's no disclaimer that says you can't bring a camcorder into a movie theater, but you can bet they'd nail your ass to the floor if they caught you recording a movie.

This is the dumbest post I have ever read. I am more stupid for just having read it.

 

[Gurck]

Originally posted by: toy4x4

Originally posted by: geno

But I paid for it damnit and its now MY property to do with as I like

Wrong, you don't own the music, just the right to own a copy of it and listen to that copy. You do not own the music and that doesn't automatically give you the right to duplicate it.

There's no disclaimer that says you can't bring a camcorder into a movie theater, but you can bet they'd nail your ass to the floor if they caught you recording a movie.

This is the dumbest post I have ever read. I am more stupid for just having read it.

Is it? He's got a good point, though in court at this point in time it could go either way.

 

[VTEC01EX]

Well, clearly he doesn't "own the music" - He couldn't go sell it to someone for use in a commercial, or do things that the actual OWNERS could do.

I agree with what he was trying to say though - CDs that I can't use on my portable players, in my car, or on my computer (the only machine I have capable of playing audio CDs) - then what good is it to me?

 

[Gurck]

Originally posted by: VTEC01EX
Well, clearly he doesn't "own the music" - He couldn't go sell it to someone for use in a commercial, or do things that the actual OWNERS could do.

I agree with what he was trying to say though - CDs that I can't use on my portable players, in my car, or on my computer (the only machine I have capable of playing audio CDs) - then what good is it to me?

Agree 100%, but of course the RIAA doesn't see it that way, and heads are butted. ATM it can go either way.

 

[luv2chill]

Just disable autorun (either permanently or by holding down the shift key when you insert the disc) and the copy protection is disabled. Yes, EAC will rip it.

l2c

 

[ViRGE]

Originally posted by: Chadder007
I was about to get this Album BTW. :UBER MAD!!:
Im also reading that you can get the UK version of it though that doesn't have the DRM built in.....Ill find that somewhere I guess.

Not just the UK version; according to Slashdot, the USA version does not have DRM.

 

[Cerb]

Originally posted by: geno

But I paid for it damnit and its now MY property to do with as I like

Wrong, you don't own the music, just the right to own a copy of it and listen to that copy. You do not own the music and that doesn't automatically give you the right to duplicate it.

There's no disclaimer that says you can't bring a camcorder into a movie theater, but you can bet they'd nail your ass to the floor if they caught you recording a movie.

This has been gone over before...
You have the right to make personal copies of anything you buy. As soon as you give it to someone else, you've broken the law, but until then, you are entitled to dupe it and use it as you see fit for your own use.

 

[Gurck]

Originally posted by: Cerb

Originally posted by: geno

But I paid for it damnit and its now MY property to do with as I like

Wrong, you don't own the music, just the right to own a copy of it and listen to that copy. You do not own the music and that doesn't automatically give you the right to duplicate it.

There's no disclaimer that says you can't bring a camcorder into a movie theater, but you can bet they'd nail your ass to the floor if they caught you recording a movie.

This has been gone over before...
You have the right to make personal copies of anything you buy. As soon as you give it to someone else, you've broken the law, but until then, you are entitled to dupe it and use it as you see fit for your own use.

Then why is copy protection (even if it is easily circumvented) legal?

 

[Aves]

Originally posted by: Gurck
Then why is copy protection (even if it is easily circumvented) legal?

That's where things get gray. It's legal to make copies for fair use but it's illegal to violate the DMCA.

 

[Cerb]

Originally posted by: Gurck

Originally posted by: Cerb

Originally posted by: geno

But I paid for it damnit and its now MY property to do with as I like

Wrong, you don't own the music, just the right to own a copy of it and listen to that copy. You do not own the music and that doesn't automatically give you the right to duplicate it.

There's no disclaimer that says you can't bring a camcorder into a movie theater, but you can bet they'd nail your ass to the floor if they caught you recording a movie.

This has been gone over before...
You have the right to make personal copies of anything you buy. As soon as you give it to someone else, you've broken the law, but until then, you are entitled to dupe it and use it as you see fit for your own use.

Then why is copy protection (even if it is easily circumvented) legal?

Because the RIAA and MPAA exist. They can pool their money and lobbyists, despite being competitors, to get things like the DMCA passed.

 

[notfred]

You can get it on iTunes.

 

[Pantoot]

The official stance from the beastieboys.com bb:

Just to clarify, here's the deal with the copy protection on the CD:

a) The copy protection is in all territories except the US and UK -- US and UK discs do not have this protection on them;

b) All EMI CDs are treated this way, TT5B isn't protected in any special way;

c) Beastie Boys would have preferred not to have the copy protection, but weren't allowed to go against EMI policy in these territories.

 

[igowerf]

Originally posted by: FelixDeKat

Originally posted by: geno

But I paid for it damnit and its now MY property to do with as I like

Wrong, you don't own the music, just the right to own a copy of it and listen to that copy. You do not own the music and that doesn't automatically give you the right to duplicate it.

There's no disclaimer that says you can't bring a camcorder into a movie theater, but you can bet they'd nail your ass to the floor if they caught you recording a movie.

Wrong, I own the copy of music. I would never agree otherwise.

You just repeated what he said.

 

[Xionide]

Oh well this cd sucks anyway.