New Barton issues...

[Homerboy]

got a new barton 2500+ and some OCZ RAM
plugged in (very cool looking) RAM registered perfectly fine... 400Mhz 2-3-3-6
then went to intall CPU and I still get "beeps" even at default setting... no post no nothig just beeps

Now I dont have a AMD "apprived" PSU, but Ive been running a 1600+ in this machine since day 1. I dont hav ethat little 4-prong CPU power adapter thingy... is my CPU just starving for power or???? HELP!!!!!!!!!!!!

 

[o1die]

List the number of beeps and the brand and rating of your power supply.

 

[Corey0808]

What kind of motherboard do you have? I would try going to the support section of your motherboards website because they usually list the beep error codes and what they mean and what you can do about them. I have trouble with my system because it was beeping and come to find out my ram wasn't seated correctly. I would try reseating your RAM to see what that does...

As far as not having the 4-prong plug for the motherboard I was running an AMD system without the 4-prong plug and it seemed to run fine. I was advised to get a new power supply to make sure I didn't harm the motherboard but you can buy a molex to 4prong adapter for older power supplies. I hope this helps.

 

[Homerboy]

Ok more info I guess.

PSU is some hunk of junk 300watt that came with the Case many moons ago.
Beeps are well... beeps. 1 beep... silence... 1 beep silence...etc etc .


RAM is seated fine as Im running it with my 1600+ right now.
But if I toss in the Barton, it wont even post or anything. It is just like there is no CPU installed (Hmm... tonight, if I dont get an answer here) Ill take the enitre CPU out and boot it up and see what error code I get...

MB is an MSI K7N2-L (333-400Mhz supported)

I actually have a new PSU in route I think... I bought it from FS/Trade forums nearly 10 days ago and I havent seen it yet... getting a bit nervous on that.

What else you want to know?

 

[Jayavarman]

Make sure every device are seated flush and snug. Then set the BIOS to optimized defaults or fail safe settings and see what happens. Also like other said, the beep codes could tell you a lot. I gotten beeps on video card not seated, RAM timing too aggressive, etc... This stuff is hard to troubleshoot over the forums, but good luck.

 

[Homerboy]

There was a BIOS update on 12-20-2002 that lists "support for Barton 2500+"

I know I am running the LATEST BIOS on the motherboard, dated 11-7-2003, so I ASSUME that BIOS has support for the 2500+ too....

 

[Homerboy]

Originally posted by: Jayavarman
Make sure every device are seated flush and snug. Then set the BIOS to optimized defaults or fail safe settings and see what happens. Also like other said, the beep codes could tell you a lot. I gotten beeps on video card not seated, RAM timing too aggressive, etc... This stuff is hard to troubleshoot over the forums, but good luck.

I understand all of that... however please keep in mind that ALL I do is switch out the CPU from 1600+ to 2500+ and it doesnt even post (ie: No BIOS options period). If I then just toss back in the 1600+ it boots up n/p, just like I never did anything.

 

[Hottie]

Jumper reset the bios.

 

[Homerboy]

CMOS?
Tried it

Originally posted by: Hottie
Jumper reset the bios.

 

[Ronnie]

I just installed a new processor with Ceramique, and never used that before. I was getting beep code and knew everything was done right. My problem was that the paste is really thick compared to other paste so I just slightly compressed the heatsink for the paste to spread. Everything worked great and temps are awesome.

 

[Homerboy]

Originally posted by: Ronnie
I just installed a new processor with Ceramique, and never used that before. I was getting beep code and knew everything was done right. My problem was that the paste is really thick compared to other paste so I just slightly compressed the heatsink for the paste to spread. Everything worked great and temps are awesome.

you got no post or anything?
just power... then beeps?
Thats weird... it would heat up THAT fast.
I guess thats a possibilty...
Ill have to redo the thermal on it and try. (Intially I just used the stock crap on there from AMD... but wipped it off and tried my AS)

 

[Homerboy]

Its not heat related. I turned off the heat warning alarms etc in the bios and then put the barton back in booted up and same crap... no post no nothing.

I think its GOTTA be the PSU issue.

 

[DAPUNISHER]

Since you are not overclocking let's start cheap, try buying the adapter for the 4pin 12v connector and see if that resolves the problem. AMD and Intel CPUs draw off the 12v line now and boards that feature the 12v connector are designed to use it. If that doesn't give it the juice it needs then here's a $29 PSU that will be fairly quite and plenty for your needs link I have it in my son's boxen and it's a great value.

 

[Homerboy]

Originally posted by: DAPUNISHER
Since you are not overclocking let's start cheap, try buying the adapter for the 4pin 12v connector and see if that resolves the problem. AMD and Intel CPUs draw off the 12v line now and boards that feature the 12v connector are designed to use it. If that doesn't give it the juice it needs then here's a $29 PSU that will be fairly quite and plenty for your needs link I have it in my son's boxen and it's a great value.

I actually bought a PSU off the FS/Trade forums (should be here TODAY (fingers crossed)) and that will obviously be the hero or the goat here. I DO plan on OCing the damn thing once it posts

 

[DAPUNISHER]

I'm sure you'll be flyin' once you have a newer PSU and make use of the 12v connector. Post some O/C results when you get 'em :beer:

 

[Homerboy]

Originally posted by: DAPUNISHER
I'm sure you'll be flyin' once you have a newer PSU and make use of the 12v connector. Post some O/C results when you get 'em :beer:

yeah I damn well better

Im just gonna sit at 11x200 (my MB only goes to 200 anyways) Ill be happy with 3200+
Hopefully I can sit at a nice low voltage though as my room can get hot during the summer.

 

[Jalapeno]

I don't think I'm going out on a limb here if I say your CPU is DOA.

 

[Homerboy]

Originally posted by: Jalapeno
I don't think I'm going out on a limb here if I say your CPU is DOA.

that would make my 2nd one in a row? Unlikely. I already returned one to newegg.com cuz I thought it was

 

[Jalapeno]

Originally posted by: Homerboy

Originally posted by: Jalapeno
I don't think I'm going out on a limb here if I say your CPU is DOA.

Unlikely.

True. Did I not read you are on your second CPU already? Sorry...

 

[Homerboy]

I may have failed to mention...

 

[Killrose]

Since your board does have the Aux 12v 4pin connector on board, usinsg a PSU with one ought to fix you right up. I've read a few times that this was the case.

 

[Homerboy]

Originally posted by: Killrose
Since your board does have the Aux 12v 4pin connector on board, usinsg a PSU with one ought to fix you right up. I've read a few times that this was the case.

Praying thats the case
if not... Barton for sale!!!

 

[Jeff7181]

I'd bet on the 12V connector. Boards that have it usually require it. Have you updated the BIOS like someone suggested (if you don't already have the latest)? That's not likely to be the problem, but an updated BIOS never hurt... it may give you some more overclocking options as well.

 

[Homerboy]

Originally posted by: Jeff7181
I'd bet on the 12V connector. Boards that have it usually require it. Have you updated the BIOS like someone suggested (if you don't already have the latest)? That's not likely to be the problem, but an updated BIOS never hurt... it may give you some more overclocking options as well.

Yeah Bios is 100% up to date Im sure.
The Bartons must REQUIRE that extra juice I guess as the 1600+ runs fine without it.

 

[Jeff7181]

Originally posted by: Homerboy

Originally posted by: Jeff7181
I'd bet on the 12V connector. Boards that have it usually require it. Have you updated the BIOS like someone suggested (if you don't already have the latest)? That's not likely to be the problem, but an updated BIOS never hurt... it may give you some more overclocking options as well.

Yeah Bios is 100% up to date Im sure.
The Bartons must REQUIRE that extra juice I guess as the 1600+ runs fine without it.

It's not the Bartons that require it... it's the motherboard. Some motherboards are designed to use that extra 12V connector... they're not designed to provide enough current without it. Mine on the other hand doesn't have a 12V connector and mine runs fine without it. It's all in the design of the motherboard.