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New AR-15 design "SAFE Act" compliant

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The New AR-15 Design is Compliant with “SAFE Act” and Has Gun Control Activists in a Tizzy

American ingenuity has created an AR-15 without all the "scary" features.

A fixed stock (adjustable ones of course make the gun far more lethal), no pistol grip and no flash suppressor are among the changes. The gun still fires .223 rounds and retains semi-automatic capabilities.

Prototypes for the newly designed AR-15 are hitting gun shops across New York, as gun shops and machinists have designed a rifle that complies with the anti-gun law.

At least one gun shop has received a letter from state police saying that the new AR-15 style rifles should be legal in the state as long as they don’t have some of the features that the law prohibits.
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rommelrommel said:
Hasn't cali been selling fixed stock/no pistol grip AR's for years?
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Yes but there are regular pistol grip ones available (and collapsible stocks?) via (i believe) the bullet button method. Im not up on my Cali gun laws though but a quick google search showed a CA legal Daniel Defense with bullet button, pistol grips, and collapsible stock.

This just shows how stupid these laws are. People will always find ways around them
 
This is what happens when people who know nothing about guns make gun laws. It's easy to get around poorly written laws.
 
Ampersand38 said:
Makes you wonder what laws were written by the experts on the subject matter.
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there are plenty of laws written by the experts on subject matter. check out the Consumer Product Safety Improvement Act. it was written by (in part) by Mattel toy's. who just happened to write in they are except..
 
Goes to show what a joke the law is, though probably the biggest joke of it at all was the allowance to have 10 round mags but only legally allowed to load 7 rounds. A judge recently deemed that stupid and upheld most of the law while throwing that out (at least until all various appeals by gov are done).

And these guns are similar in function to old ones, but look worse and perhaps somewhat more annoying to use, but certainly do not accomplish anything in regard to reducing lethality.
 
KB said:
This is what happens when people who know nothing about guns make gun laws. It's easy to get around poorly written laws.
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Yup, folk who make guns are just as smart as any other white collar criminal or terrorist group that hides itself behind our freedoms.
 
That's what happens when the definition of a salt weapon is what it looks like.

Could they ban every semiautomatic rifle without getting themselves booted from office? They will probably try in the next decade. I'd imagine a lot more people own a Ruger 10/22 or a Marlin 60 than own an AR15.
 
Agent11 said:
Is that sarcasm? Or a twisted worldview? It's hard to tell these days.
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Or a view of a twisted world?

The gun issue is absurd. I don't need laws to tell what gun I can or can't buy. It wouldn't matter if I owned a doomsday machine. I wouldn't use it because my morals are all internal. I practice morality because I want to not out of fear I'll get caught at something. But I would not also be employed in the arms industry. I used to design ways to destroy the world when I was a kid, ideas that others thought of and put into practice decades later in some cases and haven't tried yet in others. I turned my back on that sort of shit because I saw the insecurity it implied. I probably could have gotten very wealthy in the arms industry. I have a real nack for figuring out how to kill millions of people but I experienced a change in consciousness that made it all seem like such a bad idea. I found out it's more rewarding emotionally to love people than it is to blow them away and I never did get over being selfish. I'm moral because it makes me happy. Figuring out how to make a buck selling guns around the laws silly people vote to try to save lies is morally repugnant to me. I believe I'm better than the arms dealer and I believe he would be happier, if poorer, if he were more like me.
 
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Moonbeam said:
Or a view of a twisted world?
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Good Lord.

I just now had a revelation. You are not a human. You are a bot. I think you are some bot AI being tested by some tech company. They probably have multiple instances deployed to various sites, but I no longer believe you are a person. I think you follow a lot of fairly well known algorithms of how to fake being sentient, including throwing back one's statements re-worded.
 
Doppel said:
Good Lord.

I just now had a revelation. You are not a human. You are a bot. I think you are some bot AI being tested by some tech company. They probably have multiple instances deployed to various sites, but I no longer believe you are a person. I think you follow a lot of fairly well known algorithms of how to fake being sentient, including throwing back one's statements re-worded.
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He's been around way too long for that to be true. And his nonsense has neither progressed nor regressed.
 
Doppel said:
Good Lord.

I just now had a revelation. You are not a human. You are a bot. I think you are some bot AI being tested by some tech company. They probably have multiple instances deployed to various sites, but I no longer believe you are a person. I think you follow a lot of fairly well known algorithms of how to fake being sentient, including throwing back one's statements re-worded.
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I just had a fart.

Try not to get obsessed. You show a lot of good rational thinking in a lot of your posts. You don't have a worst case brain defect in my humble opinion.

PS: Listen to Nabor, he should be able to track my progress with great accuracy since he says he has me on ignore and his head in the sand.
 
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Posting teh ugly:

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It's now so far removed from the military version that it's going to hold no appeal for the microdicks with power fantasies.
 
Damn ugly but..."I gotta get me wunna dose puppies!" /s

Give me a Stoner any day, any time, anywhere.

Can you imagine how loud the recoil spring in that thing is, what with it hanging out there like it does and the shooter's ear close up against it?
 
tweaker2 said:
Damn ugly but..."I gotta get me wunna dose puppies!" /s

Give me a Stoner any day, any time, anywhere.

Can you imagine how loud the recoil spring in that thing is, what with it hanging out there like it does and the shooter's ear close up against it?
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How much dampening do you think a collapsible stock provides? It's all pretty negligible compared to the gunshot and the bullet breaking the sound barrier.
 
Nebor said:
How much dampening do you think a collapsible stock provides? It's all pretty negligible compared to the gunshot and the bullet breaking the sound barrier.
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Well, I mentioned that tidbit reminiscing about how loud it was with the standard Made by Mattel buttstock that came with the issue version I fired for twenty some-odd years in service. With every single shot I fired, especially in a non-hostile environment like at the range, that "Sproing!!!" sound pretty much overcame the pop coming out of the pointy end. But then I pretty much blocked out the sound of the blast and most anything else when firing anyway. IDK, maybe it's the way I cradled the rifle or something unique to my style, but I always qual'd at least 38 out of 40 every time I was dragged out to the range so it wasn't like I was doing something weird or anything. Although what was unique about my style was that I wouldn't actually hold the handguard when firing, but rest the handguard on a clenched fist and either squeeze or relax my grip to get the final elevation sight picture just right the instant before firing. Worked especially well in the prone supported position. 😉

Apologies to OP for going OT.
 
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