New anti-copy cd measures broken: cheaper than a sharpie!

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thatbox

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Originally from that articleSunnComm CEO Peter Jacobs said the technology--which will be improved in future versions--should still be attractive to record companies. Though simple, the act of holding down the Shift key in order to enable copying does let computer users know they're doing something unauthorized, he said. That alone will dissuade many people from making copies, he added.

Originally posted by: PanzerIV[Begin sarcasm mode] Everyone who implements this method should be running in terror because now the RIAA is going to uphold Article IV, subsection C of the anti-copy-protection-circumventing bill passed a few months ago. :D They are going to begin issuing lawsuits immediately.[/End sarcasm mode]

They will make us promise to never use our Shift keys again, forcing us to pay a fine and adapt to temporary and quick caps-lock usage. As more and more people hold shift to prevent auto-play (even average joes because its more at the forefront of attention now), the RIAA will become more and more frustrated. soon, a new act along the lines of the DMCA will require that by 2009, all keyboards must ship without shift keys. ph34r for our future, friends.

 

Vic

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oh noes111 they will take my shift key from me11 ;p
 

Krugger

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funny how we all joked about this, but the company has now sued the grad student for violation of the DMCA. it's a tad more complicated, about revealing the existence of the drivers more so than for the shift key part, but still. knowing his advisor as a big opponent of the riaa and the dmca, i think he'll win. don't think princeton itself will help, not sure though.
Princeton Student Sued Over Paper on CD Copying
 

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"This is something we were aware of," BMG spokesman Nathaniel Brown said. "Copy management is intended as a speed bump, intended to thwart the casual listener from mass burning and uploading. We made a conscious decision to err on the side of playability and flexibility."

This speedbump seems to be having the same effect as the French on the German army at the start of WW2.
 

isaacmacdonald

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ROTFL.

omg, that's probably the most retarded copy protection scheme that has ever been implemented. dumb bastards.
 
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Originally posted by: dabuddha
Originally posted by: NuclearFusi0n
Disable autorun permanently. What a crappy "feature."

Uh no. Autorun works great for people who are not computer savvy. For example, my parents.

<NuclearFusi0n> LOLz they are teh l4m0rz and should use LINUX because Micro$haft is teh suck </NF>

:D

- M4H
 

sandorski

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The Enhanced Windows Keyboard will be released soon. It will change the codes used by the Shift key and will be RIAA Approved.
 

dman

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Hmmm, is anyone else bothered that they are installing software onto your PC w/o your permission and w/o your knowledge. I guess not since it only really affects those who buy these cd's... but still couldn't that be considered a trojan and harmful to your computer. Any lawyers in the house, can we have the RIAA considered terrorists and nuke them now?



 

LordMorpheus

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Originally posted by: notfred
I wonder what happens if you try to play the CD on a mac or linux box.

what about a macintosh running Linux? (hehe, a friend and I found an old 7200/75 ppc in my attack . . and we crammed linux onto it. Right now he is fighting it trying to get the 2.6 kernel to compile . . . trial and error that takes three hours . . .)
 

dman

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Originally posted by: LordMorpheus
Originally posted by: notified
I wonder what happens if you try to play the CD on a mac or linux box.

what about a macintosh running Linux? (hehe, a friend and I found an old 7200/75 ppc in my attack . . and we crammed linux onto it. Right now he is fighting it trying to get the 2.6 kernel to compile . . . trial and error that takes three hours . . .)

FYI-Attic (you had the right spelling of the wrong word). And, You found one? Like you never had one in there and one day, while looking for treasure it was there? Or your 'rents tossed it up there a few years ago and you decided to dust it off? Just curious.

on the plus side, you can load up a Kazaa style client on there, and share MP3's and if the RIAA comes after you you can say it wasn't you since it's a MAC. :)

 

KeyserSoze

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Originally posted by: Krugger
funny how we all joked about this, but the company has now sued the grad student for violation of the DMCA. it's a tad more complicated, about revealing the existence of the drivers more so than for the shift key part, but still. knowing his advisor as a big opponent of the riaa and the dmca, i think he'll win. don't think princeton itself will help, not sure though.
Princeton Student Sued Over Paper on CD Copying

Man, what a bunch of crap. I hate the freaking DMCA.




KeyserSoze
 

ProviaFan

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Originally posted by: KeyserSoze
Originally posted by: Krugger
funny how we all joked about this, but the company has now sued the grad student for violation of the DMCA. it's a tad more complicated, about revealing the existence of the drivers more so than for the shift key part, but still. knowing his advisor as a big opponent of the riaa and the dmca, i think he'll win. don't think princeton itself will help, not sure though.
Princeton Student Sued Over Paper on CD Copying
Man, what a bunch of crap. I hate the freaking DMCA.

KeyserSoze
You see, in this day and age, it is quite fashionable to defend every piece of legislation that the RIAA pushes through, no matter how rediculous, because all people who hate the RIAA must be hackers who trade kiddie porn on p2p networks (after all, that's what the RIAA has told us, and they must be telling the truth, hrm?). Therefore, though you would think that more people would see the DMCA for what it really is, but I'm sure we'll have a bunch of supposedly "older and wiser" folks in here shortly to defend this draconian legislation and the lawsuit in question that is blatantly attempting to squelch free speech related to the suckage of SunnComm's product.
 

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"SunnComm believes that by making erroneous assumptions in putting together his critical review of the MediaMax CD-3 technology, Halderman came to false conclusions concerning the robustness and efficacy of SunnComm's MediaMax technology," it said.

"autorun" protection. owned.
 

dmcowen674

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Originally posted by: jliechty
Originally posted by: KeyserSoze
Originally posted by: Krugger
funny how we all joked about this, but the company has now sued the grad student for violation of the DMCA. it's a tad more complicated, about revealing the existence of the drivers more so than for the shift key part, but still. knowing his advisor as a big opponent of the riaa and the dmca, i think he'll win. don't think princeton itself will help, not sure though.
Princeton Student Sued Over Paper on CD Copying
Man, what a bunch of crap. I hate the freaking DMCA.

KeyserSoze
You see, in this day and age, it is quite fashionable to defend every piece of legislation that the RIAA pushes through, no matter how rediculous, because all people who hate the RIAA must be hackers who trade kiddie porn on p2p networks (after all, that's what the RIAA has told us, and they must be telling the truth, hrm?). Therefore, though you would think that more people would see the DMCA for what it really is, but I'm sure we'll have a bunch of supposedly "older and wiser" folks in here shortly to defend this draconian legislation and the lawsuit in question that is blatantly attempting to squelch free speech related to the suckage of SunnComm's product.

Originally posted by: dman
Hmmm, is anyone else bothered that they are installing software onto your PC w/o your permission and w/o your knowledge. I guess not since it only really affects those who buy these cd's... but still couldn't that be considered a trojan and harmful to your computer. Any lawyers in the house, can we have the RIAA considered terrorists and nuke them now?

Some people are starting to get it in here, very good.

There is a massive thread Titled DMCA over in P&N if you would like to catch up on many of the issues arising because of this "DMCA" including what the RIAA has been doing using this all too powerful pile of sh1t.

Join with the EFF (at least get on the mailing list for latest Newsletter), write your Congressmen (although they are the A$$hats that pass this crap), do something. At least people ARE waking up now.

PS - The student that brought you the "News" of simply holding the "Shift Key" is now facing Federal prison time for "violating" this DMCA by writing about the "Shift Key" as well as may have to pay $10 million dollars in fines. Jlechty posted the article in that DMCA thread in P&N.



 

rh71

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However, simply holding down the Shift key prevents Windows' AutoRun feature from loading
Any "power user" would know about that... I wonder how much R&D cash BMG spent to get this "security" feature implemented... lol.
 

CTho9305

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Hopefully they don't just drop this court case and we can finally get a high-profile show of the stupidity of the DMCA.
 

KeyserSoze

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Originally posted by: dmcowen674
Originally posted by: jliechty
Originally posted by: KeyserSoze
Originally posted by: Krugger
funny how we all joked about this, but the company has now sued the grad student for violation of the DMCA. it's a tad more complicated, about revealing the existence of the drivers more so than for the shift key part, but still. knowing his advisor as a big opponent of the riaa and the dmca, i think he'll win. don't think princeton itself will help, not sure though.
Princeton Student Sued Over Paper on CD Copying
Man, what a bunch of crap. I hate the freaking DMCA.

KeyserSoze
You see, in this day and age, it is quite fashionable to defend every piece of legislation that the RIAA pushes through, no matter how rediculous, because all people who hate the RIAA must be hackers who trade kiddie porn on p2p networks (after all, that's what the RIAA has told us, and they must be telling the truth, hrm?). Therefore, though you would think that more people would see the DMCA for what it really is, but I'm sure we'll have a bunch of supposedly "older and wiser" folks in here shortly to defend this draconian legislation and the lawsuit in question that is blatantly attempting to squelch free speech related to the suckage of SunnComm's product.

Originally posted by: dman
Hmmm, is anyone else bothered that they are installing software onto your PC w/o your permission and w/o your knowledge. I guess not since it only really affects those who buy these cd's... but still couldn't that be considered a trojan and harmful to your computer. Any lawyers in the house, can we have the RIAA considered terrorists and nuke them now?

Some people are starting to get it in here, very good.

There is a massive thread Titled DMCA over in P&N if you would like to catch up on many of the issues arising because of this "DMCA" including what the RIAA has been doing using this all too powerful pile of sh1t.

Join with the EFF (at least get on the mailing list for latest Newsletter), write your Congressmen (although they are the A$$hats that pass this crap), do something. At least people ARE waking up now.

PS - The student that brought you the "News" of simply holding the "Shift Key" is now facing Federal prison time for "violating" this DMCA by writing about the "Shift Key" as well as may have to pay $10 million dollars in fines. Jlechty posted the article in that DMCA thread in P&N.


In my "Computing Ethics" class, my Professor pretty just sat there and told us how bad the DMCA really was. He wasn't interested in copying movies or songs, but more in secure software. He really sat us down, and made us understand how important it is that we be able to test and try to make "mission critical" software safe. I mean, I can't explain it as well as he did, but ever since that day...man, I'm totally anti-DMCA. And plus...it's SOO broad, that any company can use it to "protect" their interests.

Man, what a bunch of crap. I get angry just thinking about it.


KeyserSoze
 

ProviaFan

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Evidently SunnComm has decided not to sue. That is good news, on the one hand, because Mr. Halderman won't have to go through an expensive lawsuit (which he might risk loosing if the judge lacks common sense), but on the other hand, an as-perfect-as-you-could-hope-for opportunity to test the DMCA and have it shown invalid has been lost.