New ALi MAGiK 1 chipset beats VIA KT266A in games!

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MrBumpy

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Check out the review at:

accelenation.com

Here's a little taste:

3DMark 2001

IWill XP333 (ALi MAGiK 1): 7881
EPoX 8KHA+ (VIA KT266A): 7050
ECS K7S5A (SiS 735): 6844

The IWill XP333 at stock speeds defeats the ECS K7S5A by more than 1000 3DMarks, and the EPoX 8KHA+ by more than 800.

Overall a great and very fair review. Worth a read :)
 
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<< Check out the review at:

accelenation.com

Here's a little taste:

3DMark 2001

IWill XP333 (ALi MAGiK 1): 7881
EPoX 8KHA+ (VIA KT266A): 7050
ECS K7S5A (SiS 735): 6844

The IWill XP333 at stock speeds defeats the ECS K7S5A by more than 1000 3DMarks, and the EPoX 8KHA+ by more than 800.

Overall a great and very fair review. Worth a read :) >>





Right , had a friend who rma's 3 of asus ali magic 1's , one burned out T bird, shorted out hsf, and the last one he got only runs is safe mode so this 1.2gig T bird run like a celron 500. Ali's are monster POS and are a buy at your own risk mobo chipset. :|
 
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<<

<< Check out the review at:

accelenation.com

Here's a little taste:

3DMark 2001

IWill XP333 (ALi MAGiK 1): 7881
EPoX 8KHA+ (VIA KT266A): 7050
ECS K7S5A (SiS 735): 6844

The IWill XP333 at stock speeds defeats the ECS K7S5A by more than 1000 3DMarks, and the EPoX 8KHA+ by more than 800.

Overall a great and very fair review. Worth a read :) >>





Right , had a friend who rma's 3 of asus ali magic 1's , one burned out T bird, shorted out hsf, and the last one he got only runs is safe mode so this 1.2gig T bird run like a celron 500. Ali's are monster POS and are a buy at your own risk mobo chipset. :| >>



Sounds like your friend is the problem. :Q
As for the XP333, it does indeed look promising. But still seeems to have its quirks. And its also more expensive. By quite a bit too.
 
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<< Right , had a friend who rma's 3 of asus ali magic 1's , one burned out T bird, shorted out hsf, and the last one he got only runs is safe mode so this 1.2gig T bird run like a celron 500. Ali's are monster POS and are a buy at your own risk mobo chipset. >>



Yep, this is your freinds fault. No wonder Asus prices are higher then everyone elses with things like this happening.
The review looks promising for the XP333, I dont think my Alpha 8045 can fit on that board though.
 
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<< Right , had a friend who rma's 3 of asus ali magic 1's , one burned out T bird, shorted out hsf, and the last one he got only runs is safe mode so this 1.2gig T bird run like a celron 500. Ali's are monster POS and are a buy at your own risk mobo chipset. :| >>



Can you really blame that on the chipset? Sounds more like an Asus problem to me, or he just had a bad run of luck. As far as ALi being a POS, I have to disagree. I am currently running an AMD K6-III @ 450 MHz on a BCM VP-1541 (ALi Aladdin V chipset) and I like it a million times better than the VIA MVP3-based motherboard I had previously. With the VIA board, I would get all kinds of crackling with my Sound Blaster Live! and occasional blue screens; at least the ALi is compatible with it. It is also 100% stable - the most stable computer amongst all my friends. I even have a GeForce 3 Ti200 in it, and it runs like a charm.
 
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im not a big fan of ali chipsets (price/performance just isnt up to par, in my opinion)

but all the stuff ive been reading about the new magik1 over the last few months has looked pretty promising :)
 
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damocles

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I'll believe it when I see it from a more reliable source, but it looks promising
 
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That review is a load of BS. A motherboard can't make that much of a difference in 3dmark. OcWorkBench has a XP333 and it's slower than the KT266A.
 
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i quess it's all in what review you want to believe.!!!!....i dont think one review is "bullshit" ...while the other is not......some are biased....some have diffrent additions to the m/b.....why dont you wait for anandtech's review (maybe you'll believe them)before you condem the board one 1 review.....!!
 
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<< That review is a load of BS. A motherboard can't make that much of a difference in 3dmark. OcWorkBench has a XP333 and it's slower than the KT266A. >>



Oh, so just since when did Ocworkbench became the "standard" reviewing site uh? I think you are the one screw up in the head.
 
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damocles

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Well, i'd be very surprised if any motherboard made that big a difference in 3Dmark 2001 unless the benchmarking was somehow flawed
 
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<<

<<

<< Check out the review at:

accelenation.com

Here's a little taste:

3DMark 2001

IWill XP333 (ALi MAGiK 1): 7881
EPoX 8KHA+ (VIA KT266A): 7050
ECS K7S5A (SiS 735): 6844

The IWill XP333 at stock speeds defeats the ECS K7S5A by more than 1000 3DMarks, and the EPoX 8KHA+ by more than 800.

Overall a great and very fair review. Worth a read :) >>





Right , had a friend who rma's 3 of asus ali magic 1's , one burned out T bird, shorted out hsf, and the last one he got only runs is safe mode so this 1.2gig T bird run like a celron 500. Ali's are monster POS and are a buy at your own risk mobo chipset. :| >>



Sounds like your friend is the problem. :Q
As for the XP333, it does indeed look promising. But still seeems to have its quirks. And its also more expensive. By quite a bit too. >>







Uh no my friends not the problem (he built atleast ten pc's for himself over the years) . Both the retailer, asus and ali refused to rma the fourth mobo. He talk to asus directly and the actknowledge the mobo a pos and as a policy no longer that rma's because ali wont cover there cost. End of the day ali mobo chipsets are crap:|
 
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Eh, sounds like that might be an asus problem, rather than an ali one. Just a thought...
 
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Mr Bumpy
You have a GF3 Ti 200 with a K6-3!?? lol , I would hate to see the Quake 3 frame rates ,or worse UT ;)
 
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<< Mr Bumpy
You have a GF3 Ti 200 with a K6-3!?? lol , I would hate to see the Quake 3 frame rates ,or worse UT ;) >>



LoL yah, with that CPU, he's probably better off with a V3 3500....seriously. I'd hate to see 32bit on that rig, but 16bit would be about right and frames would be good probably.

In any case, that review looked good, but there was a review of the XP333 a few weeks ago that had it performing worse than the KT266A at 266 DDR FSB, and the 333 DDR FSB performing even worse than that! I'd wait for a few more reviews before a final verdict on this board.

Either Iwill fixed their chipset/drivers/BIOS, or they finally perfected their "Benchmarking enhancement" features hehe.

Chiz
 
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<< Mr Bumpy
You have a GF3 Ti 200 with a K6-3!?? lol , I would hate to see the Quake 3 frame rates ,or worse UT ;) >>


LoL yah, with that CPU, he's probably better off with a V3 3500....seriously. I'd hate to see 32bit on that rig, but 16bit would be about right and frames would be good probably. >>


Heehee. Yes it is rather a mismatch isn't it? ;) I figured I couldn't go wrong since I only got it for $99 at Best Buy the day after Thanksgiving (the Visiontek Xtasy 6564 - I got lucky... there were SOOOOOO many people there!). Besides that, when I eventually upgrade my processor, CPU and memory, I will already have a good graphics card to go along with it.

For now, at least it is faster than my Elsa Erazor III was (TNT 2).


<< In any case, that review looked good, but there was a review of the XP333 a few weeks ago that had it performing worse than the KT266A at 266 DDR FSB, and the 333 DDR FSB performing even worse than that! I'd wait for a few more reviews before a final verdict on this board.

Either Iwill fixed their chipset/drivers/BIOS, or they finally perfected their "Benchmarking enhancement" features hehe. >>


Don't forget that many of these reviews have used pre-production versions of the XP-333 (not to mention different BIOS versions), but the reviewer at accelenation.com had the actual shipping board. I have also seen one other review that showed the XP-333 beating the VIA KT266A in gaming benchmarks; once I find where that review was, I'll post it in this thread.

But I definitely agree with you: we will need to see more reviews before we can jump to conclusions. :)
 
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<< LoL yah, with that CPU, he's probably better off with a V3 3500....seriously. I'd hate to see 32bit on that rig, but 16bit would be about right and frames would be good probably. >>



Yes, I would be better off with a V3 3500, but the reason I have been going nVidia is for the stereoscopic support. There is nothing like playing Half Life or Need for Speed: High Stakes in true 3D with a pair of ELSA 3D Revelator glasses :D
 
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j@cko: I'm screwed up in the head? I was not the one born without logic.

Please explain to me how a 1000 point difference in 3dmark could occur between those boards if they properly setup? 3dmark is video card dependant if you didnt know. OCworkbench is a great site. They brought the KT266 resistor issue to the attention of techies. I bet you have no idea what the KT266 resistor issue was, do you? Grow up.
 
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<< Please explain to me how a 1000 point difference in 3dmark could occur between those boards if they properly setup? >>


Is it possible that the AGP driver/controller is more optimized on certain motherboard/chipsets than others?
 
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