New abit boards ??

bsr

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What new abit board is the best...AT7-MAX2 or KD7-RAID ? And is it worth it ?
 

TheHunter

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I don't trust ABIT anymore... since they moved making the mobos over at ECS i heard alot of problems with them, even an 0.3V underrun for the CPU.... that's hard to get even from home made motherboards :p
 

CaptnKirk

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I don't think ABIT has 'Officially' moved thier product line over to ECS, as ECS is one of the lower system board lines that Abit produces. That would be like Chevy makes the
Cadilac, where in reality General Motors makes the Cadilac as their 'Luxury' car, and Chevy as their 'Entry' level car. They have made components there before.

Back to the MAX2 & KD7's - These boards, as well as almost all the other boards with KT400, are just not working out to be the performer that it was anticipated to be.
There are some on-board features that a lot of people like, sound, LAN, USB 2.0, but personally I don't like these features included, I prefer to pick my own options.

Lots of talk about VIA and SiS limiting their support of the 200/400 chipset feature, leaving motherboard manufacturers to proceed at their own risk. The JEDEC has
never validated any standard for DDR above 333 which is the PC2700 variety, so any PC3000 or PC3200 that exists is strictly an artificial specification product.
Even Samsung, which co-chairs the JEDEC knows it's a synthetic standard, and is not officially recognized. (And they make PC3200 RAM)

ABIT"S KX7-333 looks like it will outperform either of those peices, at about half the price - that alone lets you pick a NIC and a sound card, and pay for most of the cost of a lot of the Video cards. Also it looks like a lot of the new Radeons 9000's & 9700 are having driver issues on a lot of MoBo's, but haven't seen it mentioned a with ABIT yet.
Wouldn't want to pay $ 400 bucks to have a compromised video card, when the ATI Radeon 8500 LE for $ 89 works pretty fine.

Wish the KR7A-133's weren't getting hard to find, that was an outstanding perfromance board, and the KX7-333 is just a little better.

There is more fiction than fact....on the internet

Klingons on the Starboard bow !
 

osage

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quote " I don't think ABIT has 'Officially' moved thier product line over to ECS, as ECS is one of the lower system board lines that Abit produces."

just wondering where you got this info......as it is WRONG

The figures from the Taiwanese Institute for Information Industry

The market is still dominated by four firms who produce over half Taiwan's motherboards --Asustek, Elitegroup, GigaByte Technology, and MicroStar sold about 23 million units between them -- a 56 per cent share of the market.

As I understand it Abit is going to outsource the production of some of it's boards to ECS fabs. Abit will design the boards, and ECS will manufacture them.
 

Conscript

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Originally posted by: osage
quote " I don't think ABIT has 'Officially' moved thier product line over to ECS, as ECS is one of the lower system board lines that Abit produces."

just wondering where you got this info......as it is WRONG

The figures from the Taiwanese Institute for Information Industry

The market is still dominated by four firms who produce over half Taiwan's motherboards --Asustek, Elitegroup, GigaByte Technology, and MicroStar sold about 23 million units between them -- a 56 per cent share of the market.



not that I'm diagreeing with you on this, but I fail to see the proof here. ECS has always had a higher market share than abit, and was never considered one of the top mobo manufactures in terms of volume. The generate ther revenuw thru many business operations, mobo's just being one of them. That top 4 you point out would be the top four with or without abit merging with ecs.
 

osage

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linky.

Abit has never been one of the larger mobo makers, very popular with the OC/tech geek crowd, but not in the upper ranks as far a number of boards made and sold.

that's the only point I had hoped to make.
 

CaptnKirk

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Still no 'Proof', speculation, and even the mention of how Abit was to support ECS.
There seems to be a secret 'Cult' society of Taiwan electronic companies (?)
 

CaptnKirk

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What seems to be getting lost in this dialogue, is the fact that ECS is under contract to ABIT to produce components, and assemble some - NOT ALL,
of the ABIT product line, eg: lower class motherboards and production computer boards, etc. Abit is still holding onto production of their high-end
performance equipment, but they don't make them in the tens of thousands, like some factories do.
ABIT performance boards are still ABIT performance boards.