New .999.. = 1 thread

[DrPizza]

The first thread was locked after an attack on the thread.....
this thread was subsequently locked as a "repost"
The mods were nice enough to unlock this thread to continue the discussion.

 

[XZeroII]

.9999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999
9999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999
9999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999
9999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999
9999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999
9999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999
9999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999
999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999... = 1

END OF STORY

 

[DrPizza]

Oh, I agree, end of story. And, you can remove the "IMO" at the end of the post too!

 

[deftron]

Right now, it doesn't equal 1, but it may in the future.

 

[ElFenix]

100 pages times 25 posts per page = :Q

 

[XZeroII]

Originally posted by: ElFenix
100 pages times 25 posts per page = :Q

I show everything on one page. I couldn't open that thread because it would time out.

 

[spyordie007]

Originally posted by: deftron
Right now, it doesn't equal 1, but it may in the future.

You may think so, and that would make you wrong.

 

[bleeb]

Visiting Dictionary.com

The definition(s) of "Theory"

the·o·ry ( P ) Pronunciation Key (th-r, thîr)
n. pl. the·o·ries
1. A set of statements or principles devised to explain a group of facts or phenomena, especially one that has been repeatedly tested or is widely accepted and can be used to make predictions about natural phenomena.

2. The branch of a science or art consisting of its explanatory statements, accepted principles, and methods of analysis, as opposed to practice: a fine musician who had never studied theory.

3. A set of theorems that constitute a systematic view of a branch of mathematics.

4. Abstract reasoning; speculation: a decision based on experience rather than theory.

5. A belief or principle that guides action or assists comprehension or judgment: staked out the house on the theory that criminals usually return to the scene of the crime.

6. An assumption based on limited information or knowledge; a conjecture.


Observing definitions of 4, 6 should be enough to explain what I meant when I said "Theory." 0.9999... remains a "theory" because we could never reach the end of the sequence because it's neverending. Therefore it becomes an "assumption based on limited information or knowledge" (def 6). But since it's repeated, we use the definition defined by (def 4). Now since we have the absolute value "1" which isn't a "theory" but an absolute number and if we compare the two.... you are basically comparing a "theory" to an "number". (ie Apples and Oranges)

Also I wanted to point out that "Theory" although meaning that something have been tested rigorously, still is basically still an "assumption" because there might be a way that we did not see which disproves the "theory". In essense 0.9999... != 1.

 

[Kyteland]

This is my comment from this thread in FI (which is now locked)
http://forums.anandtech.com/messageview.cfm?catid=42&threadid=1286264

I personally think that the Mods need a better way to handle this kind of thing. It has been proven in two threads now that all one needs to do to kill a thread is to bomb it with a bunch of posts. If there was a large thread I wanted to die (movie trivia, ATOT goodnight, 1=0.9999..., etc) all I would have to do is go to the public library and spam it with a fake account. I think this is unacceptable. dxkj knew what he was doing and that he would probably get a vacation. ATOTgeek saw the results and knew he could get away with it anonymously, i.e. with no consequences.

If I was being rash I would equate it to thread terrorism. 😉

 

[isekii]

He's been banned 😛

 

[Chumpman]

So bleeb is actually arguing against the fundamentals of calculus?

 

[silverpig]

The Canucks w00t thread ISN'T a nef thread. It's got a theme, and it continues on topic.

The old .9r = 1 thread was a nef thread by the end as people posted there just "to keep it going man!!!"

 

[SagaLore]

What is .999999999(...) as a fraction?

 

[kalster]

Originally posted by: isekii
He's been banned 😛

who?

 

[RIGorous1]

kill this stupid thread! My god, its a cognitive problem more than it is mathematical...

why can't you guys get it straight... yet you persist to use false, ill-formed logic to explain something logically. :disgust:

 

[Kyteland]

Originally posted by: kalster

Originally posted by: isekii
He's been banned 😛

who?

See sig.

 

[bigredguy]

OP you are an idiot, people need to let things go. ESPECIALLY this. :|

 

[RIGorous1]

Originally posted by: bigredguy
OP you are an idiot, people need to let things go. ESPECIALLY this. :|

 

[Spencer278]

I say they are not equal .9999... would be a floating point number and 1 is an integer. For them to be equal 1 should be writen as 1.0

 

[TitanDiddly]

By definition of the equals sign, 1 != 0.999~. Close the book.

 

[XZeroII]

Originally posted by: SagaLore
What is .999999999(...) as a fraction?

It could be written as 1/1 or 2/2 or 3/3...

 

[silverpig]

Originally posted by: SagaLore
What is .999999999(...) as a fraction?

I posted numerous times proofs showing that you can do a long division on 1/1 to get 0.999...

 

[silverpig]

Originally posted by: PhasmatisNox
By definition of the equals sign, 1 != 0.999~. Close the book.

What definition is that? Know what you're talking about before you post 😛

 

[mugs]

Add a poll

 

[Spencer278]

Originally posted by: PhasmatisNox
By definition of the equals sign, 1 != 0.999~. Close the book.

I think you need to first open the book before you close it.