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New 8800GTS

Sylvanas

Sylvanas

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From Vr-Zone:

It seems that Nvidia is planning another GeForce 8800 GTS SKU with more stream processors. This is to widen the performance gap between the upcoming 8800 GT and 8800 GTS as 8800 GT is coming too close and it might hurt the sales of 8800 GTS. As such, the number of stream processors is increased from 96 to 112 while the rest of the specs like 500/800 core/mem clock, 320-bit memory interface, 640MB GDDR3 memories remain unchanged. There is also an interesting side note that NVIDIA will NOT be doing any formal launch activities, press announcements, website updates, or any other marketing around this new sku. Partners can conduct their own marketing activities around the sku as they see fit.

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If this is true, boo. A faster 8800 part at 8800GTS prices is good, calling it an 8800GTS when it isn't is bad.
 
how much are these suppose to cost? So this is from looking at the specs, this should be somewhat faster than the current 8800 gts ya?
 
I thought the two 7800GTX SKUs were bad (one 512mb version had like 550MHz core and was only 10% slower than the 7900 GTX, the other 256mb version was like 10% faster than the 7800 GT).

Now we have two 8800 GTS with the exact same memory, except one has more shaders.

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There's gonna be so much misinformation from dubious online merchants I'm guessing a ton of people will get ripped off thanks to nvidias naming scheme.
 
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That may be a bit confusing. I remember I didn't know what to think about the 7900 GT. It was ~20% faster than the original 7800GTX, but it was about 10% slower than the new 7800GTX. In fact I thought the entire 7-series naming scheme was a mess.

I hope the new 8800s have better names to differentiate them from each other.
 
It is going to be confusing to consumers. I can see people using the words 'new 8800GTS' and 'original 8800GTS' to try and differiant them. I dunno...maybe if they called it the '8802GTS'? :laugh:
 
I think the TMU count will have changed to.

G80GTX (8 clusters)
128 SP (stream processors)
32 TMU (texture units)
24 ROP

G80GTS (6 clusters)
96 SP
24 TMU
20 ROP

G80GTS "new" (7 clusters)
112 SP
28 TMUs
20 ROPs

Note that one cluster = 16 SPs, 4 TMUs (well its more complicated but thats not the point)

8800GTO anyone? 😀

 
Maybe something catchy like 8800GTS Extreme or something like that? If they make it 8850 or 8900 that will only confuse everyone, GTO is another option but still, isn't GTS supposed to be a better suffix than GTO?
 
I suppose but isnt the GT suffix better than the GTS suffix? i know ATI is pretty bad with the naming scheme, but i think nVIDIA has jumped into the same camp with ATi on this. Its terrible!

I mean 8800GTX is fine, but the next lineup should have been 8800GT (640mb), then 8800GTS (320mb), and this new G92 maybe 8800GS. But yea, naming products in the semiconductor industry has been all over the place lately. Look at AMD and their BE/EE or w/e.
 
Originally posted by: Astrallite
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That may be a bit confusing. I remember I didn't know what to think about the 7900 GT. It was ~20% faster than the original 7800GTX, but it was about 10% slower than the new 7800GTX. In fact I thought the entire 7-series naming scheme was a mess.

I hope the new 8800s have better names to differentiate them from each other.
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Well I think the 7900 GT was about the same level as the 7800 GTX, their core speeds only differed by 20MHZ.

Well you have to keep in mind, there is always going to over lap in terms of performance levels from 1 generation to the next and even with product lines.

I think with Nvidia it has been good in that the slowest card of the current generation in the high end sector is at least as fast (or faster) as the top end (of the same class) from the prior generation.


 
Originally posted by: Cookie Monster
I suppose but isnt the GT suffix better than the GTS suffix? i know ATI is pretty bad with the naming scheme, but i think nVIDIA has jumped into the same camp with ATi on this. Its terrible!

I mean 8800GTX is fine, but the next lineup should have been 8800GT (640mb), then 8800GTS (320mb), and this new G92 maybe 8800GS. But yea, naming products in the semiconductor industry has been all over the place lately. Look at AMD and their BE/EE or w/e.
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Well from what I can ascertain for nVidia the performance level of suffixes goes like this.

In terms of modern suffixes currently in use.

GS -> GT -> GTS -> GTX -> Ultra

look at the 8600 it only uses the 2nd and third suffixes.

The 8500 line will only use the 2nd suffix.

The 8400 uses the first suffix only.

so now it makes sense that the 8800 line will use everything except the lowest suffix which is GS.

The convention is, lower to higher number of letters in alphabetical order. So a GTO technically can be placed if Nvidia needs it between the GT and GTS.

It's pretty simple for my perspective.

ATi is pretty simple this generation only have to worry about Pro and XT and that's all.
 
If the new chip is in fact the 8800 GTS extreme than sellers can rejoice everywhere, since it's not a new discrete card and in fact can be marketed as an OCed variant. In other words, prices don't drop, the new 640mb simply will be $50 above msrp so they can maintain the price of the regular 640mb.
 
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