new 8320 rig but not sure of my RAM of choice

mconn63

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Well just got back this afternoon with a bag full of goodies to upgrade my rig. I've been a moderate tweaker and overclocker on and off for about 15 yrs

In a prior life I was a member here possibly under a different username.

I've been out of the game for about the last 4yrs and will be assembling my new rig in the next couple of days. After doing some research in this and other forums and watching some reviews on youtube I think I'm on the right path

BUT...I wanted to get some feedback specifically on my ram of choice. If it doesn't show in my sig the following is a list of gear for for my new system:

BOX AMD FX-8320 BLACK ED
COOLMAST HYPER 212 EVO
ASUS M5A99FX PRO R2.0
DIRECTCU/2DIS/1GD5 Radeon HD 5850 1GB 256-Bit GDDR5
8gig CORSAIR VENGENCE DDR1600 (PC3 12800)
CoolerMaster GX-750 PSU
CRUCIAL 512GB 2.5 MX100 SSD
Antec case

In addition to the Corsair Vengence I have (but have no problem returning) I was also considering GSkill ripjaws 8gig ddr3 1600 but wasn't sure EXACTLY which module numbers to consider. I'm also looking @ ddr3 1866 and 2133. The following links are ones I'm considering:

1. http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...D=3938566&SID=
2. http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...D=3938566&SID=
3. http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...-314-_-Product
4. http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16820231428
5. http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...d=scsho5474817
6. http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...d=scsho5455634
7. http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...d=scsho5474822
8. http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...d=scsho5455453

I'm not looking to do an EXTREME OC but as always I'm looking to maximize and get the best stable performance. Pardon me for being so long winded...is been awhile .
 

Burpo

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Your RAM choice is good..

DDR3 1600 (PC3 12800)
Timing 9-9-9-24
Cas Latency 9
Voltage 1.5V

Excellent reviews & to me, lower voltage is preferable.. Just be sure you have no clearance issues. What video card?
 

mconn63

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Sep 24, 2014
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Your RAM choice is good..

DDR3 1600 (PC3 12800)
Timing 9-9-9-24
Cas Latency 9
Voltage 1.5V

Excellent reviews & to me, lower voltage is preferable.. Just be sure you have no clearance issues. What video card?

Thanks. My current vid card is a Radeon HD5850 until around x-mas time. Then I'll see if I can find another Radeon on sale.
 

mconn63

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btw...the links that were previously down are up again.

Stiill looking for opinions on the GSKILL ram I have linked to. Thanks
 

Essence_of_War

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Excellent 2400MHz with CL 10-12-12-31 1.65v
Buying pre-overvolted RAM that isn't guaranteed to work in jedec spec seems sub-optimal when there is reasonably priced undervolted RAM that is rated to work in-spec, and can be OC'd and overvolted later if you'd like.

I'd grab this kit:
1.50V CAS9 DDR3 1866 GSkill RipJaws for $75 AP, if you order today

Or this one:
1.35V CAS9 DDR3 1600 GSKill RipJawsX for $83
1.35V CAS9 DDR3 1600 GSkill Sniper for $83

You can always OC and overvolt them yourself if you'd like more performance, but there are pretty strongly diminishing returns past ~1600/1866 if you're not on an AMD APU or intel's igpu, anyway. If it were me, I'd probably just grab that 1866 kit for $75. Good price, good speed, in voltage spec.
 

AtenRa

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Buying pre-overvolted RAM that isn't guaranteed to work in jedec spec seems sub-optimal when there is reasonably priced undervolted RAM that is rated to work in-spec, and can be OC'd and overvolted later if you'd like.

I'd grab this kit:
1.50V CAS9 DDR3 1866 GSkill RipJaws for $75 AP, if you order today

Or this one:
1.35V CAS9 DDR3 1600 GSKill RipJawsX for $83
1.35V CAS9 DDR3 1600 GSkill Sniper for $83

You can always OC and overvolt them yourself if you'd like more performance, but there are pretty strongly diminishing returns past ~1600/1866 if you're not on an AMD APU or intel's igpu, anyway. If it were me, I'd probably just grab that 1866 kit for $75. Good price, good speed, in voltage spec.

You buy the 2400MHz memory because
1: It is guaranteed to work at 2400MHz 10-12-12-31-2N
2: It can also work with officially jedec 1600MHz 1.5V
3: It cost the same or lower than the rest, currently at $81,99 - 10% promo = ~$74

So why buy 1866MHz at $75 when you can by 2400MHz at $74 ??
 

SlowSpyder

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I went with 2400MHz memory because it was something like $12 more than the cheapest 1600MHz kit.
 

Billb2

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Hi

Perhaps I should explain "binning".
A memory manufacturer makes up a batch of 1,000 memory sticks (5,000? 10,000?) and then starts testing them.

"Let;s see, this one will do 2400mhz". - It gets tossed into the 2400 bin.
"this one will only do 1600mhz". - It gets tossed into the 1600 bin.
"this one will do 1866mhz". - It gets tossed into the 1866 bin.
And on until all the sticks have been binned. They they label all the sticks in each bin with that bin's speed and a part number. Though this perfunctory description of "binning" doesn't include memory timings, rest assured that the manufacturers also include that in the binning process too.

So, when you buy 1600mhz memory, you can be assured it will run at 1600mhz, but that it won't run faster that 1866mhz. (or it would have landed in the 1866 bin!). Therefore, you pretty much get what you pay for, and not much more.

(Inside joke)
 

mconn63

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Sep 24, 2014
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Hi

Perhaps I should explain "binning".
A memory manufacturer makes up a batch of 1,000 memory sticks (5,000? 10,000?) and then starts testing them.

"Let;s see, this one will do 2400mhz". - It gets tossed into the 2400 bin.
"this one will only do 1600mhz". - It gets tossed into the 1600 bin.
"this one will do 1866mhz". - It gets tossed into the 1866 bin.
And on until all the sticks have been binned. They they label all the sticks in each bin with that bin's speed and a part number. Though this perfunctory description of "binning" doesn't include memory timings, rest assured that the manufacturers also include that in the binning process too.

So, when you buy 1600mhz memory, you can be assured it will run at 1600mhz, but that it won't run faster that 1866mhz. (or it would have landed in the 1866 bin!). Therefore, you pretty much get what you pay for, and not much more.

(Inside joke)

Hey BB,

your reply is like deja vu all over again ;)

And on a side note...I don't get why the Hawks would be playin the Caps in the Winter Classic. Tickets r going for $400 a piece :eek:

Sry, didn't mean to get off topic
 

Yuriman

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I think so...got the CPU and mobo for a total of $225 after MIR's

Upgrading from a Core 2 Duo e8400. I'm betting I'll notice slight difference

Doubt he could've gotten an i5 for that, and the FX will still be a respectable chip.
 

SlowSpyder

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I think so...got the CPU and mobo for a total of $225 after MIR's

Upgrading from a Core 2 Duo e8400. I'm betting I'll notice slight difference


I'm not too familiar with that motherboard, but it looks like a good one. It has the 990 chipset, USB 3.0, SATA6Gbps ports. So, a higher end motherboard and FX 8320 for that price seems pretty decent.

I'd get the memory AtenRa mentioned, or something similar (there is a cheaper 2 x 4GB DDR3 2400 at Newegg, but probably not as good of a brand. The price is roughly the same as what you're looking at and your board supports faster memory. I think the FX 8320 supports 1866 memory, so I wouldn't limit myself to 1600.
 

MongGrel

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G.SKILL Ripjaws Z Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 2400 (PC3 19200) Desktop Memory Model F3-2400C10D-8GZH

Only $81,99

+ 10% off w/ promo code EMCPAWB38, ends 9/24


Excellent 2400MHz with CL 10-12-12-31 1.65v

Your RAM choice is good..

DDR3 1600 (PC3 12800)
Timing 9-9-9-24
Cas Latency 9
Voltage 1.5V

Excellent reviews & to me, lower voltage is preferable.. Just be sure you have no clearance issues. What video card?

I prefer G Skill myself these days, but for the timings and what you're doing the Corsair looks more than enough.

And maybe a bit better.

:thumbsup::thumbsup:
 

escrow4

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Doubt he could've gotten an i5 for that, and the FX will still be a respectable chip.

No but a 4330 and a H97 board would be close to $225 and be a better choice unless the OP has a need for lots of weak modules, and is nearly as fast as an i5 2500 to boot.
 

aznb0b

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I hate the huge casing on the black corsair vengeance ram. I love the look of the dominator series though!

Any particular reason you didnt go with some form of liquid cooling for your cpu?
 

rancherlee

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I have the same chip, same board, and same Vengeance 1600c9 ram. Have no issues with the ram a stock setting and I bumped it from T2 to T1 and have no issues. Also relaxed the timings a bit and it runs 1866 at 10-10-10-31 T1 at stock volts too. Also, the 8320 itself is purring like a kitten @ 4.2ghz with a .1 undervolt. Good buy for 220$
 

SeanJ76

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I would only buy G-Skill memory(RipJaws or better). G-Skill makes the best memory out of all the other brands with Corsair being the worst!
I use this memory in my 4690k build- http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16820231314 (4x4Gb sticks)
Anything over 1866 is a waste and will make little difference in gaming or benchmarks.
......and never listen to anyone who tells you to buy a i7 for gaming, they're idiots.......
 
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DrMrLordX

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Years ago I got some Pi Blacks (DDR3-2200) that I could never run at their rated speed on account of the AMD memory controllers. The highest I've ever gotten it is around DDR3-1860 or so.

BUT

Underclocked with tight timings, the RAM is still awesome. Right now I have it at DDR3-1600 6-7-6-18 1T. Too bad it's only 2x2Gb or else I'd use it again on my next build. Well, maybe. The RAM sinks are huge.

Regardless, DDR3-2400 CAS10 might seem like overkill, but I'm totally with AtenRa on the whole "downclock it and tighten timings" thing. You should be able to do a lot better than CAS9 with memory that is rated to run DDR3-2400 CAS10. Should.
 

mconn63

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You buy the 2400MHz memory because
1: It is guaranteed to work at 2400MHz 10-12-12-31-2N
2: It can also work with officially jedec 1600MHz 1.5V
3: It cost the same or lower than the rest, currently at $81,99 - 10% promo = ~$74

So why buy 1866MHz at $75 when you can by 2400MHz at $74 ??

Missed out on the promo but went ahead and ordered it anyway.

I just believe the level of support that GSKILL provides along with the CURRENT positive reviews both in the various forums and retailer sites was the deciding factor.

Thanks for the recommendation and all you others that provided opinions.