New 5770 performing crappy

[happy medium]

You have a Q9000 series with 12mb Cache running at 3.6ghz on a high FSB

That tends to make a bit of impact, especially on canned benches like 3dmark.

But his overclocked 5770's sm2 and sm3 scores are still lower then my 5750's scores.:\

Yes , I do see my cpu scores 2000 more points.

 

[tweakboy]

Yes, with your low res your CPU bound and with that low res Crysis should fly on your card. People play 1920x1200 in Crysis with maxed out and its smooth on the new AMD non budget cards. thx

 

[happy medium]

I ran the Crysis built in benchmark for you for comparison.

@ 1280x960 all settings VERY high.

Min 13.81
Avg 32.68
Max 36.87

Run your gpu stock (my 5750 is overclocked) with the same settings and compare ,should be close.

 

[blanketyblank]

Run GPU-Z and post the results. I notice for a lot of people the PCI-Express slot isn't at 16x like it should be.

 

[NumericalMethods]

Run GPU-Z and post the results. I notice for a lot of people the PCI-Express slot isn't at 16x like it should be.

This.

 

[happy medium]

Last week I got you guys to help me with a new video card to balance out my system as my 8800GT bit the dust (will bake it next weekend) here: http://forums.anandtech.com/showthread.php?t=2054902

Rig: Gateway FX 7024 ( no overclocking)
Core 2 Quad Q6600 (2.40 GHz)
Intel G33 Chipset
3072 MB DDR2, 667 MHz, (PC2-5300) dual channel memory
500 GB, 7200 RPM, SATA II hard drive
XFX 5770 1gig
400 watt Power Supply
GEM 19" CRT (playing @ 1280*960 rez)
Vista Home Premium 32bit

I went ahead and did a fresh reformat and install of windows (install I had was over two years old) in anticipation, however I'm pretty sure this new xfx5770 is not performing up to par. In 3dmark06 my SM scores are simply too low. Now, my cpu score seems right running around 3300, which from what I've read is good for a stock q6600. On the other hand my average SM2.0 is only 4920 and SM3.0 is only 6150, getting about 12500 total score on average. Everywhere I go I see this card performing around SM2.0 6500 and SM3.0 7600 (15000ish total), and yes, even with slower procs.

Also Crysis is not running any better than it did with my old 8800GT, (hovering around 30fps) and before anyone yells my proc is holding me back, I know it is a little at that rez. The fact remains though that Crysis is highly GPU dependent and I SHOULD have gotten a good measurable increase in performance. Atleast more than nothing. I'd like to know what you all think before I try an MRA?

Here is what I've done so far. Two full installs of Vista, All drivers are up to date, tried multiple ati drivers, GPU-z shows everthing is good with ROPs and clock rates, PCIe is running in 16x, Temps are good, found atleast one other person with the same unresolved problem here: http://forums.pcper.com/showthread.php?t=468619 Been doing this crap all day.

Got it from Newegg, should I send it back?

He did that.

 

[blanketyblank]

sorry missed that. In that case have you checked out what your settings are in CCC? I also remember seeing one person with their settings for quality instead of balanced or performance.
On another note I notice you are using 32 bit Vista with 3 gigs of RAM while I believe happy is using a 64 bit OS. I wonder if potentially that could explain part of the differences in benchmarks.

 

[imported_microbe]

Ok, can't seem to get downloaded Crysis benchmarking tool to work for some reason. When I try to run a benchmark all it does is start a regular new game... WTH?

So I got fraps and did my own custom benchmark. At the start of Harbor Assault, benchmark starts at getting off vtol and running strait to comander on the comms and ends just before the end of the cut scene. Lots of action!

5770 stock @1280x960 no AA no AF Vsync off:
VeryHigh..... min=11 max=38 avg=28.7
High .......... min=13 max=44 avg=33.6

OC 5770 to 925/1300 @1280x960 no AA no AF Vsync off:
VeryHigh..... min=11 max=39 avg=30
High........... min=12 max=48 avg=33.8

Look right to everyone? I mean going by here, http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/...de,1928-8.html ,shouldn't I be getting more?

happy medium: Never ran the built in benchmark, but we do indeed look to be the very close regardless. So does this mean I'm right on? errrrr.

Ok, now I'm off to update Bios and see where that gets me.

 

[happy medium]

Ok, can't seem to get downloaded Crysis benchmarking tool to work for some reason. When I try to run a benchmark all it does is start a regular new game... WTH?

So I got fraps and did my own custom benchmark. At the start of Harbor Assault, benchmark starts at getting off vtol and running strait to comander on the comms and ends just before the end of the cut scene. Lots of action!

5770 stock @1280x960 no AA no AF Vsync off:
VeryHigh..... min=11 max=38 avg=28.7
High .......... min=13 max=44 avg=33.6

OC 5770 to 925/1300 @1280x960 no AA no AF Vsync off:
VeryHigh..... min=11 max=39 avg=30
High........... min=12 max=48 avg=33.8

Look right to everyone? I mean going by here, http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/...de,1928-8.html ,shouldn't I be getting more?

happy medium: Never ran the built in benchmark, but we do indeed look to be the very close regardless. So does this mean I'm right on? errrrr.

Ok, now I'm off to update Bios and see where that gets me.

My friend I think your ok. We just need more power.
My faster cpu, memory and front side bus might explain the extra 2 fps. In any event it looks correct.

Edit: the built in benchmark is in your Crysis folder,where the game is installed.
It's called gpu benchmark, there is also a cpu benchmark.

 

[happy medium]

sorry missed that. In that case have you checked out what your settings are in CCC? I also remember seeing one person with their settings for quality instead of balanced or performance.
On another note I notice you are using 32 bit Vista with 3 gigs of RAM while I believe happy is using a 64 bit OS. I wonder if potentially that could explain part of the differences in benchmarks.

Yea,but the built in benchmark is 32 bit.

Mr.Blank I think my faster cpu,memory,fsb is giving me a small advantage.
Our marks are close! 2 fps difference.

I think he might need a little more cpu? At least higher clocks. 3.0 or so?
I only say this because he overclocked his gpu and got nothing.
What do you think?

 

[RussianSensation]

Not at high or very high settings it isn't.

Yes it is. Even 1680x1050 Very High Quality without AA/AF, Crysis is CPU limited.

http://www.legionhardware.com/artic...ossfire_cpu_scaling_performance_part_1,3.html

Core i7 2.0ghz = 37 avg / 14 min
Core i7 4.0ghz = 60 avg / 44 min

OP if you can increase AA and not notice a large performance drop, then you are certainly CPU limited.

 

[imported_microbe]

Bios up date and no change (sigh).

I based a lot on that artical from toms. I mean they used 32bit Vista, only 2gigs of ram, the same CPU at the same clocks, no AA, and a friggin 9800GTX smokes my 5770 OC on high? I feel I've been kicked in the teeth by Floptimizations. To hell with tom and his hardware.

In the end I did just exactly what I set out not to do, buy more GPU ($70 more) than I needed... At anyrate, I now know my GPU is fine. Appreciate all your help.

*mumbles off*

 

[iamezza7]

I noticed that when I switched from an nvidia card to a more powerful ATI card that in some CPU bound games that my framerates didn't improve and sometimes were even worse. I think for some reason ATI's drivers in certain circumstances aren't as efficient and actually use more CPU time than nvidias, so you are more likely to run into CPU bottleneck problems.

Is there any way to overclock a Gateway using software overclocking tools, like Speedfan?

 

[tcsenter]

FWIW, the Gateway "Schroeder Town" G33 motherboard is an OEM/bulk version of the Intel DG33TL/DG33BU/DG33FB retail board. The latest Intel BIOS (common to all three) for these boards is fully compatible and much newer than the Gateway version, which is several versions behind. Here are the release notes from Intel:

http://downloadmirror.intel.com/17930/eng/DP_0572_ReleaseNotes2.pdf

If your Gateway is out of warranty, you could update the BIOS using the latest Intel BIOS but it would break the OEM Windows activation. You'd need to change the product key to the one located on the COA sticker affixed to the chassis, then activate Windows by calling activation support.

The flash utility won't work straight-away, you'd need to use the recovery BIOS method/procedure.