New 2015 Ducati 1299 Panigale Is A 205-HP Supercomputer

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JulesMaximus

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damn, this year's motorcycle show is gonna be good

:thumbsup: I've been keeping up with it on Facebook and there are a lot of exciting new models coming out of Japan this year.

I'm going to the motorcycle show in Long Beach in December. Anyone else going?
 

pauldun170

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:thumbsup: I've been keeping up with it on Facebook and there are a lot of exciting new models coming out of Japan this year.

I'm going to the motorcycle show in Long Beach in December. Anyone else going?


Aprillia, Ducati,Kawi, Yamaha - "Behold our new 200+hp mega missiles with enough tech to make the rider "optional!!"

BMW -Ze 2015 s1000r is so powerful it has shat an touring bike offspring because it is bored of constantly beating ze other motorcycles in all ze things

Honda, Suzuki - Allow us to present "bold new colors!!!" and some stuff we're not going to actually sell to anybody

Harley -Hi there. We slapped some Harley logos on some of that stuff over there. You will buy it. Cause "Murica"
 
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Ferzerp

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I don't think he has ever owned a motorcycle so he definitely has no business buying a 20k supersport.

If I ever get the urge to start riding motorcycles I will buy a crazy fast one just to spite the garage members ;)
 

JulesMaximus

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If I ever get the urge to start riding motorcycles I will buy a crazy fast one just to spite the garage members ;)

Good luck with that. Bikes are nothing like cars and if you want to actually learn to ride you will learn faster on a smaller, lighter, less powerful bike.
 

Fenixgoon

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:thumbsup: I've been keeping up with it on Facebook and there are a lot of exciting new models coming out of Japan this year.

I'm going to the motorcycle show in Long Beach in December. Anyone else going?

i'm in! should we do an ATG meetup? I'll ride my Ninja1000 down :)
 

OVerLoRDI

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And now motorcycles get all computerized, just like cars.

The thing is though, I actually support this move. Motorcycles (compared to cars) are insanely hard to control in extreme situations, if computers can allow for more human error in emergency/panic situations, that is a good thing. It will save lives and reduce injuries.
 
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The 1299\1198\R1\S1000r are more track focused. The H2 looks to be street focused. Completely different segments


The H2 is for a different segment and looks to be more of a architecture showcase for the supercharged engine. As a streetbike, it looks like is for the rider who wants the power and stability of the ZX14 with a bit more handling tossed in. I expect that the big draw on the H2 will be street rider who wants to boost the crap out of it hit the strip and have huge amounts of usable power everywhere in the power band on the street.
I do expect that this engine is going to start popping up on the their other street bikes. Basically treating the displacement race as a dead end and following whats happening in the automotive world.

I might would agree, but the way it's been marketed so far, it seems like they're targeting pretty similar demographics.

I thought that would be the case, but there's a lot of hype for the Kawasaki when it's really nothing terribly special and its supercharger actually seems to not be a positive in that it added weight and complexity compared to what they could have achieved so it's actually working against it in this situation. If this was more of a large grand tourer (or something like the GoldWing) I could understand it more. But is its powerband even actually better than the Ducati's. Or if this was some sub $20k new wonderbike, I'd get it. But instead it's like Kawasaki just went out of their way to make a more expensive bike for little good reason (they could have achieved similar results through other means that wouldn't have cost as much) and then were able to get it hyped like crazy. Maybe this is just the start and they're ushering in major changes and this just the platform for it, but I can't really understand the hype over it.
 

AMCRambler

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Heh manigale
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pauldun170

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I might would agree, but the way it's been marketed so far, it seems like they're targeting pretty similar demographics.

I thought that would be the case, but there's a lot of hype for the Kawasaki when it's really nothing terribly special and its supercharger actually seems to not be a positive in that it added weight and complexity compared to what they could have achieved so it's actually working against it in this situation. If this was more of a large grand tourer (or something like the GoldWing) I could understand it more. But is its powerband even actually better than the Ducati's. Or if this was some sub $20k new wonderbike, I'd get it. But instead it's like Kawasaki just went out of their way to make a more expensive bike for little good reason (they could have achieved similar results through other means that wouldn't have cost as much) and then were able to get it hyped like crazy. Maybe this is just the start and they're ushering in major changes and this just the platform for it, but I can't really understand the hype over it.

I think what we are going to see is nice beefy midrange over the 1299\Yammer while still maintaining a nice top end hit. Peeky vs grab a throttle anywhere and take off.
The initial marketing on the track only version highlights that it's more than just a drag bike.
Either way, I'm looking forward to see these bikes in the hands of reviewers.

Right now all anyone has are basic specs so its hard not to get caught up in a "brah-spec" comparo thing.
The price they are charging definitely seems to be pointing to the "Oops...you just doomed sales" mark.

However, if someone wants the best streetbike money can buy definitely going to be a good year with a lot of interesting choices.