ChrisOjeda
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Originally posted by: dethman
Originally posted by: OJEDAWC
Actually that is not a correct statement. I worked for an auto manufacturer for a number of years and there are many related journals that publish the total quantity of vehicles sold per quarter by model (accross each auto manufacturer). The American auto manufacturers outsell the Japaness big time. In fact, it was the norm for a single model of Ford to outsell all the sales of Honda models in that quarter. I am not sure what state county you are from but in a few states people might think that there are a ton of Honda's on U.S. roads...the fact is compared to other auto makers there are not.
american auto makers rule in trucks (f-series, silverado). when it comes to cars, japanese auto makers lead the pack (accord, camry, civic).
Fact: Your insurance rates will be higher for a Honda Accord then a comparable car from another auto maker
Fact: Your chance of getting your vehicle stolen will be dramatically higher
both false statements. insurance is hella cheap, ask anyone who drives an accord, or my gf, who's insurance is about $66/mo. and she's young and got tickets/points too.
and no, the chance of your vehicle getting stolen will not be dramatically higher,
Consumer Reports
top theft rates, per 1,000 cars, 2000
top theft rates, per 1,000 cars, 1999
top theft rates per 1000 cars, 1998
top theft rates per 1,000 cars, EVER
the accord doesn't even make it onto the map. don't let 'total' numbers fool you. notice japanese cars and american cars both make the list quite frequently.
Actually that is one way to decieve everyone and lie. You see, your stats check each year only for models made that year. Let's consider a hypothetical that is possible under this scenario:
2000 Nissan 300ZX has 3 stolen per 1000
2000 Honda Accord has 1 stolen per 1000
but all the Honda Accords stolen in that year totalled an average of 140 per 1000
and all the Nissan 300ZXs stolen in that year totalled an average of 10 per 1000.
Basically your stats are worthless. If you look at stats of cars stolen each year based on models it should not only consider cars made that year but cars made in previous years as well. I have three friends who have owned Honda accords, all of them were stolen. Not one of them had their car stolen the year it was purchased (when it was new). So if you want to buy a car based on stats that only tell you the probability that your car is stolen on the first year you have it, then those stats make sense. However, the fact of the matter is most people own their car for more than 1 year (beyond the year they purchased it). There your stats are worthless lies to decieve people. As you would say all four statements are false. Not only was your post inaccurate in declaring that I posted false statments but you post was wrong for a Hot Deals forum where people want to be informed. Anyone who has half a brain wants stats on cars stolen per year based on model and not based only on cars made that same calendar year which is worthless. Statistcally speaking, very few cars get stolen the very first year they are owned. Maybe you will do better when you get the other half!
Regarding insurance. It is a fact that insurance companies charge based upon the risk. That is why a turbo sports car costs more then a econobox. Though insurance rates can be made cheap by doing many things (good grades, good record, high deductibles, only collission, minimums, etc). So you can't say that because your g/f (who we all know is imaginary) has low rates therefore the insurance is cheap for everyone. There are variables. I made a factual statement. Insurance companies are businesses, and they made their decisions upon statistics. Every year when all the news stations, news papers, and other media run their stories on the most stolen vehicles they always include insurance companies that speak of how the rates for those cars will be higher then comparable cars from other automanufacturers. Should insurance on a Honda Accord be cheap? Naturally it should be when you consider that insurance on all entry level econoboxes are cheap. The catch is, the insurance for the Honda Accord costs more than for a comparable car. As George W. Bush would say, we don't like your FUZZY MATH! Also, until you learn to make logical sound decisions you probably won't have much success in management. You see, that requires the skill of making intelligent decisions (i.e. like charging more for high risk cars, high risk drivers, high risk regions).
