New 13 gigHD Only showing 6gig?

[ShiftKart]

I bought a Maxtor 13gig 7200 rpm drive from one of our members here and isntalled the drive for use as a slave.
After right clicking on the d: and selecting format (full-not erase) it formated it out. But it shows that the HD is completely empty and showing 5.99gig's of space.

On the outside of the HD cover it says 13gig but the back of the cover is off.

Is this HD partioned or something? Even if it was, wouldnt it show the full 13 gig's of space in properties?

Baffled on this...

TG

 

[Yomama21]

If you're using Win2k go into control panel/computer management to view disk management. It should let you view the physical drive to see what the size is.

 

[ShiftKart]

No W98-

Is this darn drive really only a 6gig even know it says 13gig on the Maxtor cover?!?!?!?

 

[bacillus]

there may be a non dos partition on the drive.
what values do you see in bios for the hdd??

 

[Yobbo]

I suggest restarting in DOS and going through fdisk to find out.

If there is another partition (non-DOS or not) it will show it. If there is, I suggest nuking the drive/extra partition....also MAKE SURE YOUR USING FAT32!! If your using FAT16...well, lets just leave it at that

Anyway, I'm not responsible if you mess something up in fdisk

Later

 

[dullard]

The easiest thing to do is run 'fdisk' (Included in Windows 98). Just open a command prompt and run it. Then hit 'enter' to answer yes to the first screen and select option '4' to see how it is partitioned. That will clearly label how big the drive is, its current partitions, the partition types, and any unpartitioned areas.

The other options will let you delete the existing partions and create new ones. However, I suggest rebooting with a start-up disk before doing so, in case Windows put some files on that drive that are 'in-use'.

Edit: Yobbo beat me to it.

 

[ShiftKart]

Folks, I found the issue. I need some help brothers.....(not the DOS master here)
After looking in Fdisk at the 2nd drive, I see that it does have 2 partitions!

Now of course it has the Primary Dos.

But it has this Extended DOS (53% usage). So I select *delete Ext DOS*
It then says *Canot delete DOS partition while logical drivers exist* *Do you want to display the logical driver info y/n?"

After selecting Yes it tells me "No logical drivers defined" ?!?!?!

So basicly I found where the other half of my HD went - to this Extended Dos. But I cant for the life of me delete the SOB.
Can you help this DOS dumb***t out?!

I've been carefull in Fdisk and as long as I'm on the other drive its OK. The other owner had the HD set up like this.
ALL I friggin want is this drive to be BLANK,NON-PARTITIONED and use the sucker hehehe.

Thanks a bunch.
TG

 

[dullard]

I've always thought that fdisk isn't user-friendly. When you delete things, you might have to try all the deleting options until you figure out which one to use first. And since I never remember the order, I just spend 2 minutes with trial-and-error (luckilly there is only a few options to try). Maybe Yobbo will know the right order. But as long as you are working with your new drive only, you have nothing to lose. If you delete your old drive and all its info, its tough luck. So to be extra careful, just unplug your old drive and use a boot disk to run fdisk from.

 

[ShiftKart]

WTF - something looks goofy.

C: Main drive (duh)

But why is this 13 gig drive chopped 6gig and 6gig like in the pic?!?!DOS Screen shot

Jesus, I'm going nuts. Thanks for all your help guys.

 

[manko]

You really should be able to do it by trial and error, going through all the FDISK delete options, until it lets you delete something.

I guess you don't have Partition Magic. Something like that would also fix your problem. There might be a free/shareware disk management tool if you search download.com, maybe you can find one.

 

[manko]

Originally posted by: Tony Gaylord
Folks, I found the issue. I need some help brothers.....(not the DOS master here)
After looking in Fdisk at the 2nd drive, I see that it does have 2 partitions!

Now of course it has the Primary Dos.

But it has this Extended DOS (53% usage). So I select *delete Ext DOS*
It then says *Canot delete DOS partition while logical drivers exist* *Do you want to display the logical driver info y/n?"

After selecting Yes it tells me "No logical drivers defined" ?!?!?!

Another thing to try might be adding a logical drive (or whatever it says you're missing), THEN trying to delete everything step-by-step.

 

[Viper GTS]

Zap it!
Readme

Don't bother screwing with FDISK.

Zap will nuke the drive completely, the first time, absolutely disregarding any partitions/f'ed up data that might be there.

Viper GTS

 

[Yobbo]

I should have checked back on this thread a little earlier, one thing to try is:

reboot into DOS 'safe mode' (so it won't run any start up files).

I really suggest fdisking from DOS, you might get problems from windows....also I've had problems like this from fdisk before and one thing that happened to work for me (I just happened to have this cd lying around) is using the RedHat CD and using the built-in fdisk that comes with it (you don't have to install linux, just fdisk it from within the setup and restart your computer before you have to install anything).

I haven't fdisked in a while either, so I'm not too sure of the order. But like the others said, there are not too many options so trial and error shouldn't be too hard.

Good luck

 

[Toro 45]

You'd be better off running fdisk with only the new 13gig Maxtor in your comp.

Insert your boot disc>start computer>click "start without cdrom support">from the A prompt type FDISK>then choose to delete dos partion>Delete Primary dos partion first>then delete extended dos partion>then go back & create Primary dos partion, make it bootable>restart computer & then from A prompt type C:\
>then from the C prompt format C:/q

 

[gunf1ghter]

Viper is absolutely right. Why spend hours f*cking with that mofo when all you have to do is download and run a utility that will write ones and zeroes to the disk making it look like a new blank drive?

oh yeah, one more thing... if this came out of a machine not running winderz, or running some weird logical address program (for BIOS that don't handle larger drives) then fdisk might not work on it anyway.

 

[ShiftKart]

GUN - Viper

As far as using it for my main drive - this 13gig 7200 is for my graphic *hit I do. Main HD is a 20gig.

I just want the graphic stuff in its own little hole.

Anyways, I tried (before I checked in here) every fricking which way, every combonation of numbers and it just wont rid that Extended partition. The screwed thing is it says after trying to delete it (the extended) it says it can't find,,a[e98vp4898^%%(&#&&$

Screw it Ya get my point..... EVERY way will NOT delete it. And even trying to create in Fdisk the funtion its looking for it gives me some other answer that its already there.....

I'll Nuke and report back. Gotta look for that program you guys were talking about.

And thanks too the rest of you that helped out - much appreciated.
-Wankster

 

[ShiftKart]

Damn, one thing. I d/l ZAP.

How do I make absolute sure that its only gonna zap the 13 gig, not my primary HD?

I'd assume that disk1 would be the main and 2 being the next in line (13gig that needs to be zapped) but I want to make sure.
Maybe I'll just throw it on a floppy like it says, boot into dos with the main drive disconnected.

T

 

[Viper GTS]

I believe it starts numbering at 0 actually.

But I would just disconnect the drive you don't want to kill.

Viper GTS

 

[bacillus]

But I would just disconnect the drive you don't want to kill.

I agree totally as many folk come on here moaning that they fdisked or formatted the wrong drive.
better be safe than sorry!