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Neverwinter Nights 2 help

GZFant

GZFant

Senior member
First off:
3000+ Winchester
1gb ram
7900GT

I loaded the game up after I bought it yesterday and everything seemed to run just fine on 1280x960 with medium to high IQ.

I start the game up when I get home from work today and everything seems to have slowed way down.
I changed the resolution from 1600x1200 all the way down to 800x600 and the FPS stayed the same every resolution with the exact same settings.

20-35fps last night.

1-5fps today.

Something seems a little off and I don't know what to do.
I restarted the compy and nothing has seemed to change.
 
Nvidia is tinkering with drivers constantly, it seems, since last Tuesday -- tried any of the newer ones with Profiles for the game included?
 
Since I never checked the official NWN2 site before posting this I decided to do so.

EVERYONE is having issues with this game so far. Hopefully patch will come out in the next couple of weeks or this is might be the end of it.

Thanks
 
Your system is very comparable to mine, and I am having no problems getting 26+ fps steady on NWN2. The only difference between our systems is your 1024MB RAM versus my 3072MB. Since NWN2 does not tax RAM for more than 1.0 GB at a time, this is not really a differing factor.

The BioWare/Atari/Obsidian forums are full of forums who are not having any trouble, too. Like all demanding games, it goes right down to the individual game and how an individual machine is used by the coding.

(I recently had 7 days of downtime trying to get my machine to run Flight Simulator X. I eventually isolated the issue to a motherboard function. Replaced the motherboard, and voila, FSX now runs fine.)

For your NWN2, you'll want shadows and water effects entirely off to determine why your system is having problems. Also, unless you changed settings, the performance on the day you brought it home should be the same the next day, so are you sure that your 7900GT is ramping up into 3d mode for this game?
 
Your CPU isn't that fast, an d NWN2 likes cpu power. 🙂


Second, don't forget to download the new Nvidia drivers, turn off all shadows, and force off vsync in the GPU control panel.
 
Originally posted by: Sureshot324
Bioware needs to realize that they suck at making 3d engines and should just license someone else's
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Obsidian made the engine for NWN2, dubbed 'Electron Engine', its essentially a heavily modified, DX only version of the NWN1 Aurora engine. Aurora was fine for its time, and boasted some of the best shadowing of its time, even today it makes titles look poor in comparison.

When I first started NWN2, it performed like crap in the first area, West Harbor. Once I got out of there, performance went back up to 30 to 45 fps outside and 60 inside. I turned off shadows and set textures to the medium settings, the game still looks very good though.


Edit - I have an X2 4200 (AM2) with 2GB DDR2-800 RAM and an X1900XT video card running Catalyst 6.10.
 
Textures on med/low...this game looks like UTTER ^%%!@...sorry....and why you're running everything low/medium w/ a 1900XT ???

I run textures high w/ my old X850XT and it IS playable !!! Shadows are the big killer. (Textures high looks WAY better in NWN2 btw.)
 
Originally posted by: Bateluer
Originally posted by: Sureshot324
Bioware needs to realize that they suck at making 3d engines and should just license someone else's
Click to expand...

Obsidian made the engine for NWN2, dubbed 'Electron Engine', its essentially a heavily modified, DX only version of the NWN1 Aurora engine. Aurora was fine for its time, and boasted some of the best shadowing of its time, even today it makes titles look poor in comparison.

When I first started NWN2, it performed like crap in the first area, West Harbor. Once I got out of there, performance went back up to 30 to 45 fps outside and 60 inside. I turned off shadows and set textures to the medium settings, the game still looks very good though.


Edit - I have an X2 4200 (AM2) with 2GB DDR2-800 RAM and an X1900XT video card running Catalyst 6.10.
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NWN1 was a crap engine if you consider its performance for the visuals it offered. The shadows looked decent but killed your framerate so most people just turned them off.

Anyway you look at it, the engine is nowhere near the level of the best engines like unreal, doom3, source cryengine, etc. I think way too many developers try to make their own engine and fail miserably when they could've just licensed one, which would probably be cheaper in the end.
 
Originally posted by: Sureshot324
Originally posted by: Bateluer
Originally posted by: Sureshot324
Bioware needs to realize that they suck at making 3d engines and should just license someone else's
Click to expand...

Obsidian made the engine for NWN2, dubbed 'Electron Engine', its essentially a heavily modified, DX only version of the NWN1 Aurora engine. Aurora was fine for its time, and boasted some of the best shadowing of its time, even today it makes titles look poor in comparison.

When I first started NWN2, it performed like crap in the first area, West Harbor. Once I got out of there, performance went back up to 30 to 45 fps outside and 60 inside. I turned off shadows and set textures to the medium settings, the game still looks very good though.


Edit - I have an X2 4200 (AM2) with 2GB DDR2-800 RAM and an X1900XT video card running Catalyst 6.10.
Click to expand...

NWN1 was a crap engine if you consider its performance for the visuals it offered. The shadows looked decent but killed your framerate so most people just turned them off.

Anyway you look at it, the engine is nowhere near the level of the best engines like unreal, doom3, source cryengine, etc. I think way too many developers try to make their own engine and fail miserably when they could've just licensed one, which would probably be cheaper in the end.
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FPS Engines /= RPG Engines
 
From reading over NWN2's forums, it seems that there is a bug in the detonator drivers err forceware drivers from nvidia (latest ones on their site). It has the wrong .exe file in the profile of NWN2's 3d program settings. Add one for nwn2main.exe (the one that is in process viewer when the game is running) and force v-sync and triple buffer to be disabled. It REALLY helps, but some tearing does happen, but the trade off is worth it. Seems like nvidia put NWN2.exe in their profile rather than nwn2main.exe
 
Not sure 'bout the nVidia side of things, but my X850XT is keeping up with the game pretty well for the most part- As others have mentioned, its the shadows that annihilate performance, especially when indoors.
 
i am playing it on my x850xt right now without performance issues [although the game does suffer from Bugs].

When i got it Nov 1st, it was completely UNPLAYABLE ... for almost 6 weeks till v1.03.840 late December ... it wouldn't even play on my x1950p ... 🙁


it really needs 1.04 but i am finishing it now ...
 
The very first area, before you go outside for the first time, ran extremely slowly on my X1950XTX so I was wondering why, but after I left the house the rest of the game has been fine. NWN2 is a strange one indeed.
 
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