Never use the STOCK intel cooler in warm invironments

[SpeedTester]

Cooler was installed properly. I did it tons of times. When I de-installed it, it was still very tight. The paste was well spreaded.

I'm talking about 100% load here. Like in prime95. My brother does heavy CPU tasks, which makes it 100% all the time.

Don't occuse before you know anything please.

I know what im talking about. I've built 100's of intel systems using stock push pin heatsinks.
Systems are used lawyer & docs offices along with others in construction trailers and everywhere you could and think of . Have I ever misinstalled a push pin thinking it was good. Yup! The short of it is, they suck 😎
If the system was pegging max temp from the start id blame the heatsink but that's not the case.

 

[Phynaz]

It's just as easy to say I screwed up as for me to say Intel screwed up. So saying I screwed up without knowing the situation is what I call hypocrisy.

Odds of you screwing up >>> odds of Intel screwing up their design used by tens (hundreds?) of millions of people every day without issue.

 

[Maximilian]

Maybe the mobo PWM settings were borked, set to manual 200 RPM or something so the fan dosent ramp with temps.

Only other explanation i could think of apart from whats already been mentioned.

Odds of you screwing up >>> odds of Intel screwing up their design used by tens (hundreds?) of millions of people every day without issue.

Intels heatsink design is crap. :\

 

[Smoblikat]

Maybe the mobo PWM settings were borked, set to manual 200 RPM or something so the fan dosent ramp with temps.

Only other explanation i could think of apart from whats already been mentioned.




Intels heatsink design is crap. :\

Clearly you have never seen 980X stock coolers

 

[Red Squirrel]

Actually, now that I think about it, what is your motherboard? I have a gigabyte X79-UD3 and it has a bios bug where it can catch on fire. Something to do with allowing the CPU clock speed to get too high in certain situations and too much current going through or something to that extent.

I left my PC on in a room that was +27 and it got so hot a stick of ram fried completely. There's apparently a bios update for it but messing with that always makes me weary, so I did not get around to checking it out yet. I just turn off my PC when not in use now. I have a SSD and Linux, 30 seconds from power on and I'm ready to use it. Would be like 10 seconds if the bios was not so slow at starting.

 

[Denithor]

Maybe the mobo PWM settings were borked, set to manual 200 RPM or something so the fan dosent ramp with temps.

Except this wouldn't explain why the CPU cooled properly once a new HSF was applied. If the OP simply pulled off stock unit and replaced with that evo and it cooled properly - with no changes in the BIOS - the it wasn't a screwy setting in there or a failing fan plug, etc.

Like 99% of others - PEBKAC.

🙂

 

[Arkaign]

I hate the Intel stock coolers for their non-EE/X processors. The pushpin design is just crap. Even the P4 clip design was better, and AMD's design better. Even correctly installed, it causes mobo flexing. Gah. I throw them in the trash every chance I get, and replace them with coolers that have proper mounting designs.

The stock Intel coolers are serviceable for stock performance or a slight overclock, but the general shoddiness of them is just embarassing.

 

[Rvenger]

Actually, now that I think about it, what is your motherboard? I have a gigabyte X79-UD3 and it has a bios bug where it can catch on fire. Something to do with allowing the CPU clock speed to get too high in certain situations and too much current going through or something to that extent.

I left my PC on in a room that was +27 and it got so hot a stick of ram fried completely. There's apparently a bios update for it but messing with that always makes me weary, so I did not get around to checking it out yet. I just turn off my PC when not in use now. I have a SSD and Linux, 30 seconds from power on and I'm ready to use it. Would be like 10 seconds if the bios was not so slow at starting.

Seems that all Gigabytes run a higher than normal stock voltage. Mine was touching over 1.2v on my 3770k on a UD5H. My Asrock only hits 1.1v at stock.

 

[MustangSVT]

OP fails at sales .. tsk tsk.

 

[Puppies04]

Cooler was installed properly. I did it tons of times. When I de-installed it, it was still very tight. The paste was well spreaded.

I'm talking about 100% load here. Like in prime95. My brother does heavy CPU tasks, which makes it 100% all the time.

Don't occuse before you know anything please.

Sorry but you are wrong, maybe it had a fault but there is no way a standard intel cooler will let the chip hit those temps even under "heavy" cpu usage unless you are in a 60°c ambient room.

My money would be on the "I did it tons of times" part. Did you replace the TIM or just keep removing/replacing the cooler with the original TIM?

 

[Lepton87]

Clearly you have never seen 980X stock coolers

Considering that it comes with a 1000$ CPU it's still crap, with that price tag it should rival Noctua D14.

 

[Dodgeee]

I've forgotten that some peoples intelligence level is comparable with that off an apple.

Just because you experienced differently doesn't mean my story has to be a bust.

Hot weather + hot intel CPU + stock cooler = 100 degrees in my situation. I only noticed that the rpm in Everest ultimate was 86, but that's still the same with the coolermaster cooler. So it might be bugged.

I just wanted to let people know what happened. It's always nice to have these kinds of info.

People that are butthurt, I can't help you with that.

 

[sm625]

This is not to say that intel is without blame. Those pushpins are awful. They can pop out after months of service. They're just cheap crap plastic.

 

[Phynaz]

Looks at thread title

Never use the STOCK intel cooler in warm invironments (sp)

But you just wanted to let us know what you experienced.

Calling experienced people stupid a day after you register isn't a way to make friends around here. If you want to be taken seriously I would suggest that a change in style is appropriate.

 

[Schmide]

I've forgotten that some peoples intelligence level is comparable with that off an apple.

Just because you experienced differently doesn't mean my story has to be a bust.

Hot weather + hot intel CPU + stock cooler = 100 degrees in my situation. I only noticed that the rpm in Everest ultimate was 86, but that's still the same with the coolermaster cooler. So it might be bugged.

I just wanted to let people know what happened. It's always nice to have these kinds of info.

People that are butthurt, I can't help you with that.

Intel's stock cooler works at about 0.3 C/W. A properly installed cooler even in a 35c environment (hot weather), with a 110w loaded processor, should exhibit a 35+(0.3*110=33) = 68c temperature. Now there could be some mitigating factors, but nothing that should push it to 100c, which conveniently is the throttling temperature for the said processor.

Intelligence level directly correlative to butthurt call out factor.

 

[mikeymikec]

Dear OP, can you imagine the sheer number of RMAs and pissed off OEMs if Intel forgot how to design a HSF correctly for their mainstream processors? How long has the 2500k been out for now, do you think maybe they would have fixed a glaring issue that stops their processors from working at stock clock speeds even in a "warm environment"?

I can just imagine the AMD fanboys on hardware forums all over the Internet on the day that a shedload of American Intel fanboys are silenced because their processors got too hot:

(no nazi references intended)

 

[Meghan54]

This is not to say that intel is without blame. Those pushpins are awful. They can pop out after months of service. They're just cheap crap plastic.

Odd....with all the Intel pushpin heatsinks I've installed, and it's more than a few dozen, I have yet to have a single one pop off, even after the case gets dropped or falls, or mounting the heatsink multiple times.

Honestly, the push pins are just too easy to mount, if you aren't ham handed and can read the directions. (Thinking of more than a few "enthusiasts" that think you have to turn the black top before pushing the pin in.....LOL!)

The problems I've seen with the push pin heat sinks are mostly with trying to do it too fast and not having the pin centered in the hole on the motherboard. Then the pushpin gets messed up and never mounts correctly after that.

 

[bononos]

I've forgotten that some peoples intelligence level is comparable with that off an apple.

......
People that are butthurt, I can't help you with that.

I don't think you've managed to convince anyone incl myself that the performance of the stock cooler is that bad. Either one of the push pin things broke or more likely you've installed it wrongly.

 

[SickBeast]

You guys are being dogs. Take the OP at his word that he installed the HSF properly and stop trying to agitate him. It's obvious that this line of reasoning irritates him so cut it out.

There are hot enough places on earth where the ambient plus the delta t would cause throttling on the stock heatsink at 100% load.

 

[capeconsultant]

Once I placed the stock cooler next to my nice Noctua. I almost cried. The Intel was a pathetic piece of crap. I was so glad I decided not to use it.

It may work middling OK sort of sometimes. Me, I would NEVER use it for any reason.

 

[capeconsultant]

I wanted to delete this post, cannot figure out how to do it.

 

[Gigantopithecus]

There are hot enough places on earth where the ambient plus the delta t would cause throttling on the stock heatsink at 100% load.

The heatsink/fan linked in the OP dropped the temps from 100C to 50C. Either the stock sink was defective or pebkac. High ambient temps would affect both sinks.

 

[SickBeast]

The heatsink/fan linked in the OP dropped the temps from 100C to 50C. Either the stock sink was defective or pebkac. High ambient temps would affect both sinks.

The cooler I just put on my GPU dropped my temps from 85C to 50C. It's not unreasonable to assume that the OP simply saw such a gain.

 

[Dodgeee]

Intel's stock cooler works at about 0.3 C/W. A properly installed cooler even in a 35c environment (hot weather), with a 110w loaded processor, should exhibit a 35+(0.3*110=33) = 68c temperature. Now there could be some mitigating factors, but nothing that should push it to 100c, which conveniently is the throttling temperature for the said processor.

Intelligence level directly correlative to butthurt call out factor.

I do not know what formula you used right there, but there are more factors if you want to calculate heat tranfer. In this formula we are not even considering airflow. I do know what I'm talking about since I'm an engineer.

I know I'm new here. I don't really care if people find me nice or not. I want to give random people information on what I've experienced. You can always start a discussion about it. But make it two-sided and not a random one sided call out because you and I know that you don't know everything what I did during testing. You can assume things if you mention that you assume it. People that think they most certainly know everything without knowing everything are what I call dumb people.

People that still don't get where I'm getting at as well.

But not all is bad. People that are actually open minded to this discussion and participate in good manours on this topic are nice.

 

[thescreensavers]

Improperly seated heatsink. Don't blame intel.

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