Never understood the whole "if you slice by half, you'll never reach zero".

[magomago]

Originally posted by: bsobel

Originally posted by: elmer92413
You will only reach the wall because you are not a point. You have volume and take up space. But if you measure from a point on the tip of your foot and had the ability to move extremely minute distances that point on the tip of your foot would never come in contact with the wall.

False, that presumes that movement can be done in sub-plank length increments. Since it can't the number of divisions is not infinite but finite.

oooh I'm interested now.

 

[nerp]

Originally posted by: magomago
too many time warps, I agree.


but the reality is that you'll hit a point where humans cannot move forward at an infinitesimal distance. This is a case of where the theory is perfectly sound, but the means to measure/execute the theory is resolution limited.

How can what you just said not be painfully obvious to everyone in this thread?

 

[magomago]

Originally posted by: nerp

Originally posted by: magomago
too many time warps, I agree.


but the reality is that you'll hit a point where humans cannot move forward at an infinitesimal distance. This is a case of where the theory is perfectly sound, but the means to measure/execute the theory is resolution limited.

How can what you just said not be painfully obvious to everyone in this thread?

I illuminate the world with the painfully obvious.

I also did not read most of the thread the first time through (which I just did).

 

[mxyzptlk]

It all seems so obvious to me and I don't need a phd in math to understand it.. if you're trying to reach the wall.. you can reach the wall. But that's not what the original thought experiment is about.. its about dividing something in half and since if you've always got a something, you can keep dividing it in half indefinitely since we're not bound by physical limitations of only being able to see things bigger than a certain size.. It never gets too small that we cant imagine cutting it in half again because the whole experiment is taking place in your imagination.

 

[nerp]

Originally posted by: magomago

Originally posted by: bsobel

Originally posted by: elmer92413
You will only reach the wall because you are not a point. You have volume and take up space. But if you measure from a point on the tip of your foot and had the ability to move extremely minute distances that point on the tip of your foot would never come in contact with the wall.

False, that presumes that movement can be done in sub-plank length increments. Since it can't the number of divisions is not infinite but finite.

oooh I'm interested now.

They're forgetting about half-plancks. OWNED.

 

[MotionMan]

Originally posted by: elmer92413
You will only reach the wall because you are not a point. You have volume and take up space. But if you measure from a point on the tip of your foot and had the ability to move extremely minute distances that point on the tip of your foot would never come in contact with the wall.

Like this?

MotionMan

 

[Freshgeardude]

Um.... Half-life calculation relies on this. If you just said zero, you would never know the starting point

 

[RadiclDreamer]

Originally posted by: Epic Fail
Does 0.999999999999999999999999999999999... equal to 1?

When repeated to infinity, yes!

 

[SSSnail]

Screw you all, I just divided by 0.

 

[Modelworks]

I like my bread sliced with the edges cut off.

 

[Cerpin Taxt]

Originally posted by: MotF Bane
ATOT Mathematics and Engineering Corps - 1
scorpious - 0

Dumbass. There's no such thing as negative zero. :roll:

 

[oiprocs]

Originally posted by: Cerpin Taxt

Originally posted by: MotF Bane
ATOT Mathematics and Engineering Corps - 1
scorpious - 0

Dumbass. There's no such thing as negative zero. :roll:

:heart:

 

[Matthiasa]

Originally posted by: Cerpin Taxt

Originally posted by: MotF Bane
ATOT Mathematics and Engineering Corps - 1
scorpious - 0

Dumbass. There's no such thing as negative zero. :roll:

Um... yes there is...:laugh:

 

[Suspicious-Teach8788]

Originally posted by: Cerpin Taxt

Originally posted by: MotF Bane
ATOT Mathematics and Engineering Corps - 1
scorpious - 0

Dumbass. There's no such thing as negative zero. :roll:

Dumbass. It's a dash.

 

[amdhunter]

The plane takes off.

 

[PlasmaBomb]

Originally posted by: Modular
It depends on how "logical" you want to be. If you think about this on a micro-level, then you will never actually touch the wall. The distance that you come towards the wall can never be 0 since you are only dividing by half, so the molecules of your body will never be close enough to make physical contact with the molecules of the wall.

ha!

What happens when you get one atom away? hmmm??

You get out your pocket Large Hadron Collider to split the atom, accidentally create a black hole and both you and the wall are sucked in.

End result = you touch the wall 🙂

 

[Goosemaster]

The engineer would hopefully see that the units of length that the individual can move are not only inaccurate but incredibly inconsistent once a the threshold of appendage-accuracy is reached.

As a result the calculated error will be too great, and a practical application of the Euler theory would not hold up past that threshold.

Thus, practically, you would not be able to even move after a certain point.

 

[PlasmaBomb]

Originally posted by: MotionMan

Originally posted by: elmer92413
You will only reach the wall because you are not a point. You have volume and take up space. But if you measure from a point on the tip of your foot and had the ability to move extremely minute distances that point on the tip of your foot would never come in contact with the wall.

Like this?

MotionMan

You sir win this thread 😀

/thread

 

[HamburgerBoy]

Originally posted by: TallBill

Originally posted by: spidey07
Without this basic fundamental theorem of Calculus there would be ZERO engineering or engineers.

False

Originally posted by: spidey07
Without this basic fundamental theorem of Calculus there would be ZERO engineering or engineers.

Seven posts apart. New timewarp record?

 

[SilentZero]

You are all FAIL!

Of course two points can never touch because if they did the following things would happen:

1.) Static electricity would build up
2.) 1.21 gigawatts barrier would be reached
3.) space time would unravel
4.) Tuna fish sandwich
5.) vagisil

 

[Fox5]

Originally posted by: scorpious

Originally posted by: Fox5
If you could make infinitely small movements, you could get infinitely close to the wall without touching.
Though depending on how you define touch, it may be impossible to touch anything. It's unlikely your nuclei will come into contact with the nuclei of the object you're touching I'd imagine.

This post turns me on.

+1 for erotica

Oh dear! :shocked:

 

[jman19]

Originally posted by: bsobel

Learn to read 😛 And it's planck

I read fine, I was explaning why the question is flawed. And your right, typo.. I do that with planck alot for some reason.

Like I said, you missed the point. Actually, I know you know the point, but you're just deciding to be a smart ass I guess.

 

[Goosemaster]

Originally posted by: SilentZero
You are all FAIL!

Of course two points can never touch because if they did the following things would happen:

1.) Static electricity would build up
2.) 1.21 gigawatts barrier would be reached
3.) space time would unravel
4.) Tuna fish sandwich
5.) vagisil

is the development of 5 and anti-entropic reaction to 4 or is it even crazier?

 

[jman19]

Originally posted by: spidey07

Originally posted by: jman19

Originally posted by: spidey07
Without this basic fundamental theorem of Calculus there would be ZERO engineering or engineers.

Umm, no. Modern engineering would be VERY different but there wouldn't be "zero engineering."

You get the point. Calculus would be effectively non existent without it and that would cripple all the other sciences especially physics and chemistry.

No, your point was really, really crappy actually. Engineering and science existed before calculus and would exist without it, we just wouldn't have made the same discoveries.

 

[Fenixgoon]

Originally posted by: PlasmaBomb

Originally posted by: MotionMan

Originally posted by: elmer92413
You will only reach the wall because you are not a point. You have volume and take up space. But if you measure from a point on the tip of your foot and had the ability to move extremely minute distances that point on the tip of your foot would never come in contact with the wall.

Like this?

MotionMan

You sir win this thread 😀

/thread