Networks respond to false Fox News Channel ad

DealMonkey

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So it's not just rabid republicans who live in their own alternate realities, it's their central mouthpiece as well.

Networks respond to false Fox ad

WASHINGTON (CNN) ? Fox News is under fire for a newspaper ad they purchased Friday that inaccurately accused its' competitors, including CNN, of failing to cover last weekend's Tea Party protests in Washington.

"How did, ABC, CBS, NBC, MSNBC, and CNN miss this story?" Fox's newspaper ad asks.

The answer: They didn't.


CNN provided live coverage of the rally in Washington on Saturday, dispatching more than a dozen personnel, including multiple camera crews and the CNN Express Bus, to cover the event. Deputy Political Director Paul Steinhauser was live at Freedom Plaza; Correspondent Kate Bolduan reported live from the Capitol and throughout the crowd; All Platform Journalist Jim Spellman provided live hits all day after traveling for weeks on the Tea Party Express Bus; and CNN Correspondent Lisa Desjardins was live for CNN and CNN Radio from the National Mall.

CNN's coverage also included numerous live reports and interviews with protesters and newsmakers, including rally day speaker Sen. Jim DeMint and activist Art Gerhart, who was on the set with anchor Don Lemon to discuss the event.


In addition, CNN.com provided a live stream of the rally throughout the day.

ABC referred Friday to a statement by Matt Kibbe, president of FreedomWorks ? the group that organized the event ? characterizing the network's coverage that day as "fair and honest." The rally story was featured on the network's morning shows, nightly news broadcast, in extensive radio reporting and online.

MSNBC also pointed to its own reporting. "Just like every other network mentioned in the ad, MSNBC covered last Saturday's protest," the network said in a statement.

CBS detailed its coverage of the event in a statement issued Friday afternoon.

"CBS News had multiple crews on site with our Congressional Correspondent Nancy Cordes reporting," the network said in a statement. "It was the lead story on the CBS EVENING NEWS; CBS Radio News provided hourly reports during the day and CBSNews.com had the story in its rotating lead all day. They also processed the Nancy Cordes video and linked it throughout the site."

And CNN criticized Fox for its inaccurate statement. "Fox News' ad released today is blatantly false regarding CNN's coverage of the 9/12 rally," CNN said in a statement.

http://politicalticker.blogs.c...lse-fox-ad/#more-69632

Fair and balanced? Hardly. :thumbsdown:
 

woodie1

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Originally posted by: DealMonkey
So it's not just rabid republicans who live in their own alternate realities, it's their central mouthpiece as well.

Networks respond to false Fox ad

WASHINGTON (CNN) ? Fox News is under fire for a newspaper ad they purchased Friday that inaccurately accused its' competitors, including CNN, of failing to cover last weekend's Tea Party protests in Washington.

"How did, ABC, CBS, NBC, MSNBC, and CNN miss this story?" Fox's newspaper ad asks.

The answer: They didn't.


CNN provided live coverage of the rally in Washington on Saturday, dispatching more than a dozen personnel, including multiple camera crews and the CNN Express Bus, to cover the event. Deputy Political Director Paul Steinhauser was live at Freedom Plaza; Correspondent Kate Bolduan reported live from the Capitol and throughout the crowd; All Platform Journalist Jim Spellman provided live hits all day after traveling for weeks on the Tea Party Express Bus; and CNN Correspondent Lisa Desjardins was live for CNN and CNN Radio from the National Mall.

CNN's coverage also included numerous live reports and interviews with protesters and newsmakers, including rally day speaker Sen. Jim DeMint and activist Art Gerhart, who was on the set with anchor Don Lemon to discuss the event.


In addition, CNN.com provided a live stream of the rally throughout the day.

ABC referred Friday to a statement by Matt Kibbe, president of FreedomWorks ? the group that organized the event ? characterizing the network's coverage that day as "fair and honest." The rally story was featured on the network's morning shows, nightly news broadcast, in extensive radio reporting and online.

MSNBC also pointed to its own reporting. "Just like every other network mentioned in the ad, MSNBC covered last Saturday's protest," the network said in a statement.

CBS detailed its coverage of the event in a statement issued Friday afternoon.

"CBS News had multiple crews on site with our Congressional Correspondent Nancy Cordes reporting," the network said in a statement. "It was the lead story on the CBS EVENING NEWS; CBS Radio News provided hourly reports during the day and CBSNews.com had the story in its rotating lead all day. They also processed the Nancy Cordes video and linked it throughout the site."

And CNN criticized Fox for its inaccurate statement. "Fox News' ad released today is blatantly false regarding CNN's coverage of the 9/12 rally," CNN said in a statement.

http://politicalticker.blogs.c...lse-fox-ad/#more-69632

Fair and balanced? Hardly. :thumbsdown:

Feel better now?
 

Schmide

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No they missed the story by 1,430,000 people or so.


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OCguy

So, do you have an opinion on whether the ad was false? (My opinion = yes)

If it was, do you consider it to be poor and untrustworthy journalistic practice? (My opinion = yes)

Do you actually care?
 

KDOG

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The point is they did NOT cover it in a way NO WHERE NEAR how they would've covered a liberal-based march/event. Their coverage was weak at best, and only a biases hack for the left won't admit it....
 
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The ad will be effective, no doubt. Fox can issue a one time apology for the ad and they're covered, but the ad will persist. If anything, any semblance of "protest" will simply lead to more publicity, and that's not a bad thing. People who already hate Fox will use this as a weapon to try and convince people they have no hope of convincing, and Fox supporters will rally and say the whole thing was just a misunderstanding. This is a dirty slimeball tactic which will work well in Fox News' favor. The only tactic that would work against this would be for the other networks to give up any moral high ground they want to lay claim to and do the exact same thing. In the end, it is we, the viewers, who suffer by getting third rate sensationalist bullshit propaganda instead of actual news. Maybe that's why Americans are so uninformed... In a land where ratings are the rule and scandal attracts more viewers than policy, this will continue to be the norm.
 

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Originally posted by: KDOG
The point is they did NOT cover it in a way NO WHERE NEAR how they would've covered a liberal-based march/event. Their coverage was weak at best, and only a biases hack for the left won't admit it....

Sure they didn't. Exactly what facts are you basing this on? Be specific.

Arguing is easy when you just make shit up, huh?
 

DealMonkey

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Originally posted by: KDOG
The point is they did NOT cover it in a way NO WHERE NEAR how they would've covered a liberal-based march/event. Their coverage was weak at best, and only a biases hack for the left won't admit it....

A lie is a lie and you seem fine sucking 'em down. Fact is: Fox lied about the other networks coverage. Then, a parade of morons including Glenn Beck lied about how many people attended the tea parties. Then! A equally large parade of retards around here, parroted those same lies.
 

DealMonkey

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Originally posted by: OCguy
How do you feel being a mouthpiece for one side in a Cable "News" war?

I see, you too are content to suck down lies from FNC. Good for you. :roll:
 

Schmide

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Originally posted by: sandmanwake
Originally posted by: Schmide
No they missed the story by 1,430,000 people or so.


Eidt: (Source University of I Don't Remember)

Sounds like someone listens to TYT.

Nope. Got that from MsNBC's non coverage.
 

Pens1566

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So they didn't cover it, yet the event promoter cited ABC news as his source for the 1.5 million figure???? Hmmm, something not right here. Fox needs to sync their story with the tea partiers.
 

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Originally posted by: DealMonkey
Originally posted by: KDOG
The point is they did NOT cover it in a way NO WHERE NEAR how they would've covered a liberal-based march/event. Their coverage was weak at best, and only a biases hack for the left won't admit it....

A lie is a lie and you seem fine sucking 'em down. Fact is: Fox lied about the other networks coverage. Then, a parade of morons including Glenn Beck lied about how many people attended the tea parties. Then! A equally large parade of retards around here, parroted those same lies.

See, the ad accomplished it's objective. Feed the troops with some more "the rest of the media is left-wing and only we are truly fair and balanced" bullshit.
 

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Wait wait, Fox News took out an ad in a newspaper supporting the Tea Party protesters by asking why networks didn't cover the tea party protesters, which is basically a news network making a public declaration of support of said protesters. And I thought MSNBC was blatantly bad.
 

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Originally posted by: KDOG
The point is they did NOT cover it in a way NO WHERE NEAR how they would've covered a liberal-based march/event. Their coverage was weak at best, and only a biases hack for the left won't admit it....

You mean only a biased hack for the right would actually think a march by a group of people smaller then the turnout of a college football game would garner much for news.
 

lupi

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Originally posted by: eskimospy
Originally posted by: KDOG
The point is they did NOT cover it in a way NO WHERE NEAR how they would've covered a liberal-based march/event. Their coverage was weak at best, and only a biases hack for the left won't admit it....

Sure they didn't. Exactly what facts are you basing this on? Be specific.

Arguing is easy when you just make shit up, huh?

the messiah mounting his temple upon Mt. Denver or the mass gospel at the capitol monument were hard to miss, unless you're just trolling.
 

fskimospy

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Originally posted by: lupi
Originally posted by: eskimospy
Originally posted by: KDOG
The point is they did NOT cover it in a way NO WHERE NEAR how they would've covered a liberal-based march/event. Their coverage was weak at best, and only a biases hack for the left won't admit it....

Sure they didn't. Exactly what facts are you basing this on? Be specific.

Arguing is easy when you just make shit up, huh?

the messiah mounting his temple upon Mt. Denver or the mass gospel at the capitol monument were hard to miss, unless you're just trolling.

You're either joking, trolling, or a moron.
 

Harvey

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Originally posted by: lupi

the messiah mounting his temple upon Mt. Denver or the mass gospel at the capitol monument were hard to miss, unless you're just trolling.

So says Exhibit A of trolling. :roll:

If you disagree with the OP's premise, try proving your point with facts, instead of spewing your usual worthless, irrelevant bullshit... JUST ONCE!... for a change.
 

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Why are all of the Fox competitors in such an uproar? Likely because the rating wars show them being decimated by FNN.

I flip through all of the news channels, a different one each 30 seconds, and I don't recall major coverage by anyone but Fox on two recent stories that blew up - the ACORN story and the 9/12 March On Washington.

The only one that covered the 9/12 March with at least a few stories was CNN, so they might have a case. Maybe the rest were out looking for "important" stories or couldn't budge off their ideological bent.

And yes, any furor the competitors raise is absolutely free publicity for Fox. Attacking the ad just gave the Fox ad about 100X more views (and likely loads more surfing viewers clicking onto Fox) than ignoring it would have.

Do you think that was Fox's strategy from the start? :laugh:

Cable News Ratings for Thursday, September 17, 2009

Cable News Daily Ratings for September 17, 2009

Morning programs (6:00AM-9:00AM) P2+ (25-54) (35-64)
FOX & Friends- 1,083,000 viewers (415,000) (668,000)
American Morning- 461,000 viewers (169,000) (287,000)
Morning Joe- 369,000 viewers (147,000) (220,000)
Squawk Box- 157,000 viewers (71,000) (102,000)
Morning Express w/ Meade- 336,000 viewers (213,000) (228,000)

5PM ? P2+ (25-54) (35-64)
Glenn Beck? 3,065,000 viewers (734,000) (1,369,000)
Situation Room?753,000 viewers (205,000) (271,000)
Hardball w/ Chris Matthews?650,000 viewers (156,000) (301,000)
Fast Money?210,000 viewers (55,000) (107,000)
Prime News?256,000 viewers (117,000) (144,000)

6PM ? P2+ (25-54) (35-64)
Special Report with Bret Baier? 2,775,000 viewers (724,000) (1,297,000)
Situation Room?554,000 viewers (145,000) (203,000)
Ed Show?689,000 viewers (191,000) (337,000)
Mad Money ?175,000 viewers (60,000) (99,000)
Prime News ? 361,000 viewers (157,000) (191,000)

7PM ? P2+ (25-54) (35-64)
The Fox Report w/ Shep ?2,379,000 viewers (686,000) (1,148,000)
Lou Dobbs Tonight?631,000 viewers (212,000) (260,000)
Hardball w/ C. Matthews?747,000 viewers (219,000) (350,000)
Kudlow Report ?124,000 viewers (56,000) (70,000)
Issues? 489,000 viewers (229,000) (278,000)

8PM ? P2+ (25-54) (35-64)
The O?Reilly Factor? 3,913,000 viewers (1,026,000) (1,716,000)
Campbell Brown ? 814,000 viewers (226,000) (298,000)
Countdown w/ K. Olbermann ? 1,396,000 viewers (388,000) (680,000)
CNBC Reports? a scratch w/ 88,000 viewers (a scratch w/ 32,000) (a scratch w/ 45,000)
Nancy Grace ? 1,056,000 viewers (376,000) (528,000)

9 PM ? P2+ (25-54) (35-64)
Hannity ?3,166,000 viewers (871,000) (1,443,000)
Larry King Live ?1,337,000 viewers (309,000) (490,000)
Rachel Maddow Show ?1,229,000 viewers (336,000) (607,000)
Marijuana Inc ? 318,000 viewers (171,000) (155,000)
Issues- 721,000 viewers (229,000) (385,000)

10 PM P2+ (25-54) (35-64)
On The Record w/ Greta Van Susteren ?2,633,000 viewers (664,000) (1,173,000)
Anderson Cooper 360 ?1,011,000 viewers (266,000) (424,000)
Countdown w/ K. Olbermann ? 744,000 viewers (269,000) (355,000)
Big Mac: Inside McDonalds ? 372,000 viewers (216,000) (213,000)
Nancy Grace ?697,000 viewers (287,000) (358,000)

11 PM P2+ (25-54) (35-64)
The O?Reilly Factor ?1,961,000 viewers (638,000) (1,039,000)
Anderson Cooper 360 ?552,000 viewers (179,000) (279,000)
Rachel Maddow Show ?535,000 viewers (169,000) (244,000)
Mad Money ? 142,000 viewers (85,000) (94,000)
Showbiz Tonight? 517,000 viewers (259,000) (305,000)
 

Harvey

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Originally posted by: PJABBER

Do you think that was Fox's strategy from the start? :laugh:

Cable News Ratings for Thursday, September 17, 2009

Cable News Daily Ratings for September 17, 2009

Proving conclusively how large the potential audience of really stupid people is and that Rupert knows there's money to be made pimping to them. :roll:

Originally posted by: lupi

Originally posted by: Harvey

Originally posted by: lupi

the messiah mounting his temple upon Mt. Denver or the mass gospel at the capitol monument were hard to miss, unless you're just trolling.

So says Exhibit A of trolling. :roll:

If you disagree with the OP's premise, try proving your point with facts, instead of spewing your usual worthless, irrelevant bullshit... JUST ONCE!... for a change.

yes, you'd do much better to follow your advice.

Aww... lupi. If that's the best you can do, go home and practice, little boy. :p
 

lupi

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Originally posted by: Harvey
Originally posted by: lupi

the messiah mounting his temple upon Mt. Denver or the mass gospel at the capitol monument were hard to miss, unless you're just trolling.

So says Exhibit A of trolling. :roll:

If you disagree with the OP's premise, try proving your point with facts, instead of spewing your usual worthless, irrelevant bullshit... JUST ONCE!... for a change.

yes, you'd do much better to follow your advice.
 

PJABBER

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Originally posted by: Harvey
Originally posted by: PJABBER

Do you think that was Fox's strategy from the start? :laugh:

Cable News Ratings for Thursday, September 17, 2009

Cable News Daily Ratings for September 17, 2009

Proving conclusively how large the potential audience of really stupid people is and that Rupert knows there's money to be made pimping to them. :roll:

Such is business and politics. :D
 

Harvey

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Originally posted by: PJABBER

Originally posted by: Harvey

Originally posted by: PJABBER

Do you think that was Fox's strategy from the start? :laugh:

Cable News Ratings for Thursday, September 17, 2009

Cable News Daily Ratings for September 17, 2009

Proving conclusively how large the potential audience of really stupid people is and that Rupert knows there's money to be made pimping to them. :roll:

Such is business and politics. :D

True, but it doesn't make it right or ethical, and it doesn't say much for those who endorse doing it. :roll:
 

PJABBER

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Originally posted by: Harvey
Originally posted by: PJABBER

Originally posted by: Harvey

Originally posted by: PJABBER

Do you think that was Fox's strategy from the start? :laugh:

Cable News Ratings for Thursday, September 17, 2009

Cable News Daily Ratings for September 17, 2009

Proving conclusively how large the potential audience of really stupid people is and that Rupert knows there's money to be made pimping to them. :roll:

Such is business and politics. :D

True, but it doesn't make it right or ethical, and it doesn't say much for those who endorse doing it. :roll:

Neither ethics nor right have much to do with either business or politics. Though I would venture that business follows a much more ethical course than politics.