Networking problem between WinME and Win2K/XP machine

[Almighty1]

Greetings everyone:

I'm having a problem with Networking between WinME and Win2K/XP machine. The Win2K/XP machine was originally ME until it was upgraded to WinXP Pro Beta Build 2428 last week.

The machines are setup as follows under the workgroup DNALOGIC.NET:
Win2K/XP - lunar
WinME - solar

What seems to happen is the Win2K/XP machine can see the WinME machine fine via browsing DNALOGIC.NET as the user admin. Both machines have only one account and the name is vince with the same password. On the WinME machine, when I browse the DNALOGIC.NET, it only shows itself as solar but not the lunar machine, I can however get to it with the UNC paths of
\\lunar so it's not a issue of the network. WinXP doesn't have NetBeui so on the WinME machine, I made the default protocol as TCP/IP and I can ping the other machine but how does one select the default protocol to use in Win2K/WinXP? Can someone help me out in getting the WinME machine to see the WinXP machine via browsing? Also, how does one logout of a remote
machine on the LAN after logging in for browsing under a certain login/password? Thanks!

 

[Shadow07]

It sounds like that there is a problem with the master browser in your workgroup. I will look for the reg keys to edit and make sure they're correct.

As far as logging off, you will have to drop to a DOS prompt and type the following:

NET USE DRIVELETTER: or network path (ie \\computer\IPC$) /DELETE

To see what active connections you have to a computer type in the following:

NET USE

This will show you the active connections that are on the local machine. The IPC$ is the InterProcess Connection, basically this is the connection that will authenticate an initiating connection.

Hope this helps. Let me know if you need anything else answered.

EDIT:Sorry, stupid typo mistake.

 

[Almighty1]

Thanks for your help... but what registry keys do I need to look for? Also, I understand about the logging out but how do I change the WinXP machine from logging into the WinME machine as admin but rather as vince instead?

 

[Shadow07]

There should be a Password and User Control Panel applet. I believe in Windows ME you can edit the users, but remember, they are not security accounts rather profile accounts. But if you are still having the problem, I would search on your system for any PWD files. You can either delete them or rename them. Then either reboot or log off. You will then be prompted for a user account and password.

 

[Almighty1]

Thanks Chris. Hmmm, does this really have to do with the users since the problem is that on the WinME machine, I can see the XP machine if I did \\LUNAR by typing the UNC of the machine. But if I went to browse, entire network, under the workgroup, it will only show itself and not the other machines in the workgroup.

 

[igiveup]

Well, if win xp is laid out like win 2k is then to set the default protocol (binding order) Right click on My Network Places and select properties. Click the Advanced menu above and select Advanced Settings. The box you want is on the lower half of the page. Select and move up or down as desired. For win ME get to the area where your protocols and network options are located. I think it was laid out like 2k, and if so select your adapter in My Network Places and then properties. Think thats it. Anyways, select TCP/IP and then properties. In there on one of the numerous tabs you will find an checkbox that says something like "Set this protocol to be the default protocol" or something.

Some simple things to double check:

Client for Microsoft Networks installed and enabled
File and/or Printer sharing installed and enabled
Same protocol on both boxes set as default and/or first in binding order
Same workgroups (can each computer see themselves at least in the workgroup?) and make sure its the correct spelling for the workgroups (you won't believe how dumb you can feel after making so simple an error, I know).

As far as loggin into a machine from win 2k to win me, win me doesn't even control users and passwords does it? Its not a domain controller or anything. You are setting up a strict peer-to-peer here. Everybody is equal. You can grant share rights but nobody logs into a win me machine. If anything its the other way around. Win me users have to have the password for the guest account on the win2k machine I believe. Thats the way it happened for me anyways.

OH, we don't need usernames or passwords here as it just won't help, and although I don't think anybody would try to hack you or something its just not a good idea.

LUCK!!! Tell us how it goes as I am curious about all things network related. Hi again Chris!

 

[Almighty1]

Thanks igiveup,

Yep, winxp is laid out like win2k... When you mention the box I want is on the lower half of the page, are you referring to the Adapters and Bindings tab or the Provider Order tab?

On Provider Orders tab, I have the following:

Network Providers
Microsoft Terminal Services
Microsoft Windows Network
Web Client Network
Print Providers
LanMan Print Services
HTTP Print Services

On the Adapters and Bindings Tab:
Under Connections, there is
Local Area Connection
[Remote Access Connections]

Under Bindings for Local Area Connection: (Everything is checked)
File and Printing for Microsoft Networks
NWLink IPX/SPX/NetBIOS Compatible Transport Protocol
Internet Protocol (TCP/IP)
Client for Microsoft Networks
NWLink IPX/SPX/NetBIOS Compatible Transport Protocol
Internet Protocol (TCP/IP)

So I guess this means that IPX/SPX should be set as default on the WinME machine instead of TCP/IP since it was on NetBEUI before when my XP machine was ME but XP no longer has NetBEUI so I thought TCP/IP is the preferred so a question is for the local sharing, would I be better off using IPX/SPX or TCP/IP?

I did double check that both Client for Microsoft Networks and File and Printing for Microsoft Networks are installed and enabled.
The protocols unfortunately aren't the same since I thought XP had TCP/IP as the preferred protocol but it seems like IPX/SPX is the preferred one. Between those two protocols, which one is actually faster and better between Windows machines? Yep, the workgroup is the same or else I couldn't see the ME machine from the XP machine or can't use UNC like \\LUNAR on the ME machine to see the XP machine.
I'm not sure but WinME does require a password to view a shared device but it also asked for a username when connecting from XP and I think I put in admin instead of guest like someone mentioned but it worked anyways so I was wondering how do I change the username back to vince as that's what I'm logged in as on the XP machine. I'll post after I try this out...