Netflix's new STB...

[Jugernot]

Anyone else a little peeved that Netflix apparently thinks the market needs a seperate STB to view their streaming movies? Why not make a deal with Tivo and get that whole market and not have to put a cent into marketing a new peice of equipment?

Make more sense, no?

EDIT:
Link

 

[FoBoT]

what is a STB

i will defer awarding you plasma balls until i learn this important fact

 

[wyvrn]

Set top Box

Because with Tivo, they cannot enforce their business plan of charging for movies and not allowing you to burn them or use them repeatedly. The STB is to protect the licensing requirements that will undoubtedly will come with the program.

 

[Specop 007]

Sounds like the Vudu in a way.

 

[FoBoT]

i thought netflix sent me dvd's in the mail
are you saying i have to buy a netflix dvd player?

 

[Jugernot]

No, they are releasing a box through a 3rd party that allows the netflix subscriber to stream movies onto their tv through the STB.

Basically what Tivo does with Amazon unbox, but through Netflix for free with your subscribtion.

As for the control, Rhapsody just made an agreement with Tivo and it is now there. It has the same restrictions as Netflix (no copying, etc.).... what's the different other than audio vs video?

Jugs

 

[Specop 007]

Can you buy the movie through Netflix, or just "rent" them?

 

[Jugernot]

Rent...

EDIT: Link

 

[Specop 007]

Ah. The Vudu allows you to rent or buy, but personally I dont care for the buy feature.

 

[Farang]

Is service still going to be unlimited? That would be a pretty amazing service, I can't imagine what it would do to Blockbuster.

 

[Skeeedunt]

Sounds pretty awesome. Waiting for stuff sucks. Hopefully it will also encourage them to expand their Watch It Now selection beyond The Office and 400 shitty movies no one wants to watch.

 

[cliftonite]

They should make deals with Sony/Microsoft and offer something through the consoles.

 

[pontifex]

Originally posted by: Specop 007
Can you buy the movie through Netflix, or just "rent" them?

you can buy them also.

 

[loup garou]

Dammit, all I want is a Watch it Now plugin for Media Center/Extenders.

 

[thomsbrain]

Originally posted by: loup garou
Dammit, all I want is a Watch it Now plugin for Media Center/Extenders.

I don't know that there's any reason they won't do that, too. But you have to realize that the PC will NEVER be a viable mass-market media option. Also, there's no reason you can't just call up the movies on your browser and go to full-screen, just like you do on a normal PC.

Personally, I don't want to do anything that is going to reduce the image and sound quality. It really pisses me off that medium momentum is pushing so hard towards REDUCED quality formats for both audio and video. DVD-A and SACD are dead in the water while everyone flushes money down the toilet at iTunes. And people want to stream super-compressed video with stereo sound (this includes " Comcast On Demand") instead of moving to HD disc formats. If I can tell it looks like crap even on my ancient standard TV, I'm not paying for it. I realize I'm in the minority here, and it really makes me sad.

 

[HardcoreRobot]

Originally posted by: cliftonite
They should make deals with Sony/Microsoft and offer something through the consoles.

they could offer subscriptions tied in with the online playing services. like, with xbox live subscription you get 10hrs of video a month or something.

LG should try to figure out how to integrate HD dvr / high def dvd along with this service.

 

[mugs]

Maybe TiVo has an exclusive deal with Amazon.com?

I hope Microsoft or Sony gets in on this so I can watch Netflix videos via my 360 or PS3. But MS already has a video rental service for the 360.

 

[ElFenix]

stuff like this is why BD vs HD is a pointless war.


though i would like a licensable industry standard set top box (or better yet, something built into the tv) to do this so that i could rent or buy from anyone with just one box.

 

[RapidSnail]

Originally posted by: cliftonite
They should make deals with Sony/Microsoft and offer something through the consoles.

:thumbsup:

Cash cow.

 

[Slick5150]

From the article, this isn't what Netflix envisions the future of it being (requiring you to buy a separate device to use the service). LG just happened to be the first to sign on..

". However, LG doesn't have an exclusive deal, and Netflix says they want their streaming movies on every single set-top-box imaginable?this includes gaming systems, DVRs, and more."

 

[altonb1]

Originally posted by: Slick5150
From the article, this isn't what Netflix envisions the future of it being (requiring you to buy a separate device to use the service). LG just happened to be the first to sign on..

". However, LG doesn't have an exclusive deal, and Netflix says they want their streaming movies on every single set-top-box imaginable?this includes gaming systems, DVRs, and more."

...but will the cable companies go for it w/o a fat piece of the pie? I can't see Comcast integrating it w/o an upcharge on their end, too.

 

[TanisHalfElven]

Originally posted by: ElFenix
stuff like this is why BD vs HD is a pointless war.


though i would like a licensable industry standard set top box (or better yet, something built into the tv) to do this so that i could rent or buy from anyone with just one box.

YEAH.
try streaming HD content and you'll realise why physical media will always exist.

 

[Fingolfin269]

Woo another set top box!

 

[Modelworks]

I would love for them to do this with the DISH dvr I have.
Its already got ethernet and its HD, the copy protection is pretty secure on it as well.

The problem I see though is the internet providers are going to throw a fit if this becomes common. There is no way the backbones can handle it. Even if they used the most current compression schemes the smallest you can get 1080i HDTV down to without losing quality is about 6GB for a 90 minute movie.

 

[0roo0roo]

Originally posted by: thomsbrain

Originally posted by: loup garou
Dammit, all I want is a Watch it Now plugin for Media Center/Extenders.

I don't know that there's any reason they won't do that, too. But you have to realize that the PC will NEVER be a viable mass-market media option. Also, there's no reason you can't just call up the movies on your browser and go to full-screen, just like you do on a normal PC.

Personally, I don't want to do anything that is going to reduce the image and sound quality. It really pisses me off that medium momentum is pushing so hard towards REDUCED quality formats for both audio and video. DVD-A and SACD are dead in the water while everyone flushes money down the toilet at iTunes. And people want to stream super-compressed video with stereo sound (this includes " Comcast On Demand") instead of moving to HD disc formats. If I can tell it looks like crap even on my ancient standard TV, I'm not paying for it. I realize I'm in the minority here, and it really makes me sad.

yea look at the situation with cable card or whatever for tv tuners and the whole intel VIIV initiative. most consumers just want to deal with that mess to watch a film