Netflix does it again - UPDATE: Official statement - min. 2 streams per account

[pontifex]

U cheap bastards, I thought everyone here made 250k a year or more. Get the 2 out at a time and you can stream to 2 devices at the same time. Get the 3 out at a time and you can stream to 3 at the same time. I pay like 22 or 23 or something a month for two out at time.

Not the end of the world people, just like the added "NOOOOO" in RotJ isn't the end of the world.

prices went up. your 22 or 23 is now going to be over 30

 

[ponyo]

I love all these I'm going cancel Netflix because of this posts. If you haven't canceled Netflix by now after the last rate hike, they have you by the balls and you won't cancel. Enjoy the squeeze.

 

[Rifter]

And for all you saying Netflix sucks, my question to you is: Compared to what?

Compared to all other available media sources, such as cable, satalite, and the DSL TV services now offered by phone companies. I realize these all cost more but they are 100's of times better and dont cost 100's of times more so are still better bang for the buck.

Im assuming like most things netflix is probably better in the US but when i tried it in canada a few months ago the selection was so bad i lol'ed and canceled within a week.

 

[slayer202]

It was limited to 5 devices total. And unlimited means unlimited, this is a limit.

If you go to an all you can eat buffet, do you buy one plate and let the rest of the family and friends share? When you buy your unlimited data plan for your phone, does everyone get to share it?

 

[Miramonti]

If you go to an all you can eat buffet, do you buy one plate and let the rest of the family and friends share? When you buy your unlimited data plan for your phone, does everyone get to share it?

A netflix account served a household, and was market as such. A household is not "everyone."

Now they are basically saying 'everyone in the household watch the same thing', or open up your own account, including ones for the kids.

 

[shortylickens]

Lol, this post is fucktarded. I seriously started laughing when I read this.

1. Yes you could. It took no effort and just worked. Sounds like you didn't even try.

2. It doesn't have to be compared to anything. The newer layouts, the pricing structure, and this change suck, ergo Netflix sucks.

3. This one was the best. If anyone ever had any doubt that you were a gigantic blowhard on these forums they should be able to see it just fine now. I'd love to hear about all of the things you dislike so I can call you out and berate you.

I did try.
So you just committed a logical fallacy. You boner!

I hate illegals and lazy, cheap Americans. Also the rich spoiled Americans like Obama who say illegals are beautiful and wonder and never actually had to live with them or deal with them.
Also people who think they are smart and clearly only have one talent: Running their mouths (like you for example).

Go ahead, have fun.

 

[shortylickens]

Compared to all other available media sources, such as cable, satalite, and the DSL TV services now offered by phone companies. I realize these all cost more but they are 100's of times better and dont cost 100's of times more so are still better bang for the buck.

Im assuming like most things netflix is probably better in the US but when i tried it in canada a few months ago the selection was so bad i lol'ed and canceled within a week.

I dunno, maybe canada is worse. But my uncle has to use American DTV because your options and selection are shit up there so I really dont believe you when you say cable and satellite are hundreds of times better.

 

[Miramonti]

A better analogy is cable tv.

If you don't all want to watch the same thing and in the same room, lease a box for each room for a small monthly fee per box...instead of 'everyone open up a Comcast account' if you want to watch something different, lol.

So add a nominal fee for simultaneous streams. Don't require everyone to open a new fvcking account account at full price. @sshats.

 

[slayer202]

A better analogy is cable tv.

If you don't want to watch the same thing, lease a box for each room for a small monthly fee per box...instead of 'everyone open up a Comcast account' if you want to watch something different, lol.

So add a nominal fee for simultaneous streams, don't require everyone to open a new fvcking account account at full price. @sshats.

Add another DVD

 

[Axon]

They have an immensely popular product, a relatively reasonable monthly sub fee, and an upcoming, long-term struggle with content providers who all want either a major piece or their own "netflix" service (see HBO go). So I'm not shocked they're suddenly making all these changes.

 

[Miramonti]

Add another DVD

blo me?...to netflix that is.

/edit: and we're not talking about a dvd subscription...that's more just having 1 along with a streaming subscription. Idea is fail.

 

[slag]

how are you not getting unlimited streaming?


hell i dropped from 3 out at a time plus streaming to 2 out at a time and no streaming. streaming is next to worthless as their selection sucks.

I am now, but if this change goes through, it would not be limited to one device, not unlimited. I understand it is unlimited viewing of that one connection, but as it is currently, we can watch multiple streams at the same time which is one thing I looked into before signing up over a year ago.

And as you can tell from my post, there are tv shows that my wife and I stream that we do watch. I'm on season 4 of Voyager and she is rewatching her favorite NCIS episodes. $10.00 was the price point I felt comfortable paying for netflix streaming with their current selection.

 

[LookBehindYou]

prices went up. your 22 or 23 is now going to be over 30

Wrong. Went from 19.07 to to 22.98.

Like I said, not the end of the world. There's no way I could just do streaming anyway. It's nice for the treadmill but nothing (to include itunes, amazon, and hulu) can stream something that looks and sounds identical to a blu ray.

 

[slayer202]

blo me?...to netflix that is.

/edit: and we're not talking about a dvd subscription...that's more just having 1 along with a streaming subscription. Idea is fail.

so cancel. pretty simple solution

 

[ViRGE]

The problem is, the greedy movie industry is probably charging them more and more. Their ultamate goal is to probably just stop them completely because they want people buying $30+ DVDs/Blurays instead for each movie they want to watch.

Bingo. The content providers want out, they've seen what the Netflix model does to their more lucrative sales such as PPV, DVD/BR, and digital purchases. Netflix hasn't suddenly forgotten how to run a good business, but the content providers are doing everything they can to keep Netflix from succeeding.

In this case they probably had a new contract go into effect that specifically stipulated such a requirement, or a content provider was otherwise breathing down their neck. I mean what are they going to do, say "no" and have all their content immediately pulled?

 

[waggy]

A better analogy is cable tv.

If you don't all want to watch the same thing and in the same room, lease a box for each room for a small monthly fee per box...instead of 'everyone open up a Comcast account' if you want to watch something different, lol.

So add a nominal fee for simultaneous streams. Don't require everyone to open a new fvcking account account at full price. @sshats.

You do not need a box for basic cable. so Every tv in the house can hook up to cable tv for no added expense. its when you want HD (or satalite) you need a box.

A netflix account served a household, and was market as such. A household is not "everyone."

Now they are basically saying 'everyone in the household watch the same thing', or open up your own account, including ones for the kids.

this is what pisses me off. If my kids are watching something i would like to watch something on a different TV

 

[Wyndru]

Wait, I thought they've always done this?

Nah, I've always been able to stream multiple with the lowest plan, even though their site said otherwise.

Apparently the higher tier of the dvd plan you had, the more simultaneous streams you could play, but I've always had the streaming only plan and I've never had issues streaming even 3 at a time.

It makes sense that they would do this though, most people just share accounts now.

It's kinda sad to see this though because I really don't think a lot of people will stick around with all of these big changes. I'd be surprised if they stay above water for too much longer.

 

[ultimatebob]

I think you're off base here Nik. I should be able to watch ST:Voyager on my computer in the basement command bunker while my wife is upstairs folding laundry and watching NCIS on netflix on the appletv, especially if we are using the same internet connection. We are paying for unlimited streaming, we should be able to have unlimited streaming.

Yeah... the problem is that most of the cheap asses who are whining on the Consumerist aren't sharing their accounts with their wives and children in the same house... They're sharing their account with their friends and extended family so they can rip off their account.

I think that Netflix should allow 2 simultaneous streams from the same external IP address (i.e. two computers in a house behind the same router), but they should probably block anything other than that.

 

[xSauronx]

Any reasons why they would be doing this?

revenue increase requirements due to studios/whoever that owns content trying to ream them for more money for streaming rights

ive loved netflix for years, but the recent changes suck balls. if the streaming collection continues to get worse i might finally drop them, which i hate to do after so long because ive been pretty happy with the service for a while

 

[ultimatebob]

You do not need a box for basic cable. so Every tv in the house can hook up to cable tv for no added expense. its when you want HD (or satalite) you need a box.

this is what pisses me off. If my kids are watching something i would like to watch something on a different TV

Not anymore you can't... most of the cable companies scramble their signals now, so you need a decoder box at each TV in order to watch anything than 3 or 4 basic TV channels.

That's how Comcast works now, anyway. The basic boxes are free, but you need to pay out the nose if you want an HD box or a box with a DVR.

 

[darkewaffle]

Any reasons why they would be doing this?

Because they became a massive success with relatively low barrier cost contracts since the organizations they got the content from assumed it would just fail. But now that they've basically made the market (and own it) all the content providers want a much bigger piece of the pie by either entering the market themselves or getting a better contract from Netflix.

So they're gonna jack Netflix and Netflix is in the business of making money.

 

[Bignate603]

People seem to be forgetting something very important, we're only talking about $8. $8 for streaming as much as you want is ridiculously cheap. Any other content provider charges multiple times that for their service. So what if you have to make 2 accounts to watch more than one stream? You're still paying less than half of what you would for the most basic crappy cable service.

 

[nageov3t]

eh.

streaming to multiple devices simultaneously was always in that "gray" realm like sharing Amazon Prime accounts with different addresses.

they allowed it, but it's obviously only a matter of time before they started to crack down.

 

[NFS4]

Not anymore you can't... most of the cable companies scramble their signals now, so you need a decoder box at each TV in order to watch anything than 3 or 4 basic TV channels.

That's how Comcast works now, anyway. The basic boxes are free, but you need to pay out the nose if you want an HD box or a box with a DVR.

Just about every new TV today has a QAM tuner, so all you have to do is plug in the TV and you're good to go (at least that's the case with Time Warner Cable).

I have a box downstairs in the living room, but I also have two LCD TVs upstairs plugged directly into the wall. Whereas the box downstairs gets me all digital channels and full programming, I can still get HD local channels and basic cable programming (1-78) to the TVs upstairs.

 

[Wyndru]

Not anymore you can't... most of the cable companies scramble their signals now, so you need a decoder box at each TV in order to watch anything than 3 or 4 basic TV channels.

That's how Comcast works now, anyway. The basic boxes are free, but you need to pay out the nose if you want an HD box or a box with a DVR.

That's strange, I have cable split and hooked up to all my (OLD) TV's and only have 1 hd dvr box on my large HD in our family room. I guess time warner is different.