Netburst and other lost tech of the decade ...

[nyker96]

not surprisingly netburst is the first in line as well as others like BTX, HD-DVD, CRT, Rambus, Transmeta ... read on:

http://www.xbitlabs.com/articles/other/display/not-survived-2009.html

 

[DominionSeraph]

"it eventually emerged that the approach is not feasible and the whole clock-speed war cease to lose sense at some point."

Yes, is was first maked less sense yesterday.

 

[StrangerGuy]

Isn't Rambus already dead before 2001? It's not like many could afford RDRAM with P4s back then.

 

[TuxDave]

Isn't Rambus already dead before 2001? It's not like many could afford RDRAM with P4s back then.

Pretty much in the PC space but as the article said, not in the console space. Things might've been different if it wasn't for the price-fixing scheme done by the DDR companies (which they already pleaded guilty)

 

[PM650]

BTX was what always got me....whaddya do when you come out with a 130W CPU? - design a new form factor around it of course Always interesting to see what some huge/near-monopolistic companies decide to do when they can throw their weight behind whatever they want.

 

[Jimbo]

Compared to PC-100, RDRAM in dual channel mode was a huge step forward.
It was just a technological cul-de-sac.

 

[EarthwormJim]

"it eventually emerged that the approach is not feasible and the whole clock-speed war cease to lose sense at some point."

Yes, is was first maked less sense yesterday.

Has anyone really been far even as decided to use even go want to do look more like?


Seems like this article was put through babel fish one too many times.

 

[Fox5]

Compared to PC-100, RDRAM in dual channel mode was a huge step forward.
It was just a technological cul-de-sac.

And it may have gotten away for it too, if it wasn't for AMD and their K7 cpu.

DDR ram wasn't far behind RDRAM, and the platform choice of Athlon + DDR was way better bang for buck (and sometimes just way better bang) than Pentium 4 + RDR or SDR.

Had AMD not offered competitive performance, Intel could have possibly succeeded in forcing RDRAM as it would have had the performance halo by a large margin, unless VIA and SIS succeeded in achieving a large enough market share to make DDR viable.

 

[Stefan Payne]

Compared to PC-100, RDRAM in dual channel mode was a huge step forward.
It was just a technological cul-de-sac.

The latency was crap, Sandra (or everest) measured about a hundred nanoseconds (and the MRH costs about 20ns as well).

And we'd better not talk about the heat...

 

[Nemesis 1]

When did netburst Die its alive and well in Nehalem . Or parts there of. other aspects of netburst also carried forward . You guys think that because a tech Didn't lead for its an entire life its Failed . Its that kind of thinking that leads to failure , If we do not learn from past mistakes we are domed to repeat them .

 

[Soulkeeper]

transmeta products were always exciting to read about, was a shame to watch them go.

 

[Chiropteran]

Nowadays, only Shuttle Computer is still trying to make SFF desktop barebones popular, but even the XPC pioneer is offering factory build XPC systems in all regions. Unfortunately for Shuttle, they do not provide any services with its XPC systems, as a result, this business is merely successful

Huh? I still see tons of small form factor computers for sale. In fact I now see even the big manufacturers, such as Dell with Zino and HP selling SFF designs. This isn't a failed technology. This is a failed article.

 

[Nemesis 1]

transmeta products were always exciting to read about, was a shame to watch them go.

Your correct but the tech is alive and well. As you will acknowledge soon enough you combine Transmedia tech with Lots of cache and A jitcompiler based on tech say for example Elbrus(Intel) and you have away out of X86 but can still use X86 programms . The future is bright for that tech . Providing of course the decievers don't steal our future.

 

[formulav8]

The netburst architecture overall was definitely a failure. It did not even get anywhere near what Intel apparently designed it to do. They were supposed to be around 10ghz by 2010 and obviously didn't get even close to the intended mark.

Saying Neh is netburst is saying that neh is also pentium or pentium 3 artitecture. The core has tech from both cpu's, but the big parts of netburst were abandoned.

Anyone can spin it all they want but netburst was a complete failure. Failure in marketing (It didn't hit the 10ghz mark PR was bragging it would) and in engineering(It didn't hit the 10ghz it was engineered to do and carry Intel to 2010).

OF course just my little opinion.


Jason

When did netburst Die its alive and well in Nehalem . Or parts there of. other aspects of netburst also carried forward . You guys think that because a tech Didn't lead for its an entire life its Failed . Its that kind of thinking that leads to failure , If we do not learn from past mistakes we are domed to repeat them .

 

[VirtualLarry]

When did netburst Die its alive and well in Nehalem . Or parts there of..

LOL. I vote this as the most technically inaccurate statement of the year.

Netburst != HyperThreading

 

[ZimZum]

I would argue that PDAs are still around and are quite successful. Only now we refer to them as smart phones.

 

[Nemesis 1]

The netburst architecture overall was definitely a failure. It did not even get anywhere near what Intel apparently designed it to do. They were supposed to be around 10ghz by 2010 and obviously didn't get even close to the intended mark.

Saying Neh is netburst is saying that neh is also pentium or pentium 3 artitecture. The core has tech from both cpu's, but the big parts of netburst were abandoned.

Anyone can spin it all they want but netburst was a complete failure. Failure in marketing (It didn't hit the 10ghz mark PR was bragging it would) and in engineering(It didn't hit the 10ghz it was engineered to do and carry Intel to 2010).

OF course just my little opinion.


Jason

Your correct anyone can spin it the way they want as I did and so did you .

 

[Nemesis 1]

LOL. I vote this as the most technically inaccurate statement of the year.

Netburst != HyperThreading

Only hyperthreading. We could make this along expanded topic . But I raised enough hell with the mods for this year and into the next looking at time. Besides I begin a new journey in my life now . Nothing I want to celabrate thats for fact, Now the hard part of my existance begins . Up to now its been a cake walk. You dislike me now . You have much to learn .

 

[nyker96]

Compared to PC-100, RDRAM in dual channel mode was a huge step forward.
It was just a technological cul-de-sac.

I remember a friend used to have RDRAM/P4, it was faster than DDR but it turns out RAM speed isn't that crucial and DDR was selling at much lower price, it all came down to economics.

 

[EarthwormJim]

Only hyperthreading. We could make this along expanded topic . But I raised enough hell with the mods for this year and into the next looking at time. Besides I begin a new journey in my life now . Nothing I want to celabrate thats for fact, Now the hard part of my existance begins . Up to now its been a cake walk. You dislike me now . You have much to learn .

Wow...

 

[Voo]

Wow...

Where is that guy from another thread that could translate Nemesesian into some kind of human understandable language? At the moment there are way too many parser errors.. maybe I need a newer flex version?

 

[Stefan Payne]

When did netburst Die its alive and well in Nehalem.

Oh dear...
That's absolutely not true, Nehalem is more based on the P6 design than it's on the Netburst thing.
Well at least a little, doesn't have that much to do with the P6 (not more a Phenom has to do with a K5 or K6)

Or parts there of.

Well I don't know what parts you mean and it's not I don't know anything...

other aspects of netburst also carried forward.

What do you mean?!

You guys think that because a tech Didn't lead for its an entire life its Failed . Its that kind of thinking that leads to failure , If we do not learn from past mistakes we are domed to repeat them .

Yeah, like Larrabee, Itanic and CineFX...

I remember a friend used to have RDRAM/P4, it was faster than DDR but it turns out RAM speed isn't that crucial and DDR was selling at much lower price, it all came down to economics.

And there is just one board out there that supports USB2.0 (with an ICH4!) -> Gigabyte 8IHXP.
And yes, I owned that thing, apart from a P4T, P4T-E and even a P3C (wich could take a quite high FSB of about 170MHz, than my unlocked P2/233 was the limit...)

 

[Tsavo]

Tens upon tens of millions of these things sold over a 7 year period.

Pretty hard to call that a failure.

 

[Stefan Payne]

Well, the K8 was the better processor, the reason Intel sold so many Netburst CPU is currently investigated by the (american) FTC
The European Union convicted Intel to pay about 1.06 Billion €uros (wich is about 1.5 Billon USD)...

 

[Ben90]

Where is that guy from another thread that could translate Nemesesian into some kind of human understandable language? At the moment there are way too many parser errors.. maybe I need a newer flex version?

Only hyperthreading. We could make this along expanded topic . But I raised enough hell with the mods for this year and into the next looking at time. Besides I begin a new journey in my life now . Nothing I want to celabrate thats for fact, Now the hard part of my existance begins . Up to now its been a cake walk. You dislike me now . You have much to learn .

Translated to nemesesian:


Only hyperthreading. I'm the smartest guy ever and everyone knows that so if you try to start a debate then I won't actually talk about the topic at all and just attempt to confuse the shit out of you by not actually saying anything