Net10 AT&T Data plan gets hard cap

Bateluer

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http://www.net10blog.com/2013/02/net10-wireless-changes.html

Effective March 1, 2013, NET10 Wireless Bring Your Own Phone (BYOP™) AT&T-compatible SIMs will be limited to 1.5GB of high speed data usage per 30 day period on the Unlimited plan. Any redemption made prior to March 1st will not be affected by this policy.

The NET10 30-Day Unlimited Airtime Card that you add to your phone will indicate unlimited data; however with an ATT compatible SIM (A- dark blue or B- light blue) you will only receive 1.5GB of data for that 30 day period.

TMO is still unlimited, though throttled. Cap is low as hell, but at least clearly defined. Some of the prepaid plans are very ambiguous with their 'unlimited' data plans.
 

Dulanic

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Better than straight talk and their cancel you now ask questions never policy.
 

lothar

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Better than straight talk and their cancel you now ask questions never policy.
Straight Talk never cancels you. They only throttle you once you go over their "unannounced" 2GB data cap and you call them to remove said throttle.
This Net10 plan advertises right away that you will be completely cut off once you cross the 1.5GB data cap.

Not sure how you can assume that's better than Straight Talk.
Unannounced 2GB data cap with throttle is better than having an announced 1.5GB hard data cap limit.

At least I know I'll still be able to get emails and also use Google Navigation if I'm throttled on Straight Talk.
 

bamx2

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I wonder if Straight Talk will start selling ATT BYOD sims again and will the terms be the same as new NET10 terms ( 1.5 GB hard data cap) ? If they change it for existing customers, there might be a big PR problem for Walmart.
 
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Oyeve

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I still dont understand why tmo is in last place with the big 4. They are so much better than at least 2 of the 3.
 

Red Storm

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I still dont understand why tmo is in last place with the big 4. They are so much better than at least 2 of the 3.

Not in terms of coverage. They do good in major cities but there are millions upon millions of people who live in areas where their coverage is not that good.
 

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Straight Talk never cancels you. They only throttle you once you go over their "unannounced" 2GB data cap and you call them to remove said throttle.
This Net10 plan advertises right away that you will be completely cut off once you cross the 1.5GB data cap.

Not sure how you can assume that's better than Straight Talk.
Unannounced 2GB data cap with throttle is better than having an announced 1.5GB hard data cap limit.

At least I know I'll still be able to get emails and also use Google Navigation if I'm throttled on Straight Talk.

They both can cancel you and both were "unannounced" caps until this little change. I've read horror stories about both /w their "caps". That is my biggest reason for likely not swapping to these plans.
 

lothar

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They both can cancel you and both were "unannounced" caps until this little change. I've read horror stories about both /w their "caps". That is my biggest reason for likely not swapping to these plans.
This is absolutely false.
Do you yourself use Straight Talk or are you just speculating or repeating someone's completely false random musings from the internet?
I've been with Straight Talk for 17 months now. Your assumption is completely false.

Straight Talk does not cut people off for going over data caps, they only throttle.
This Net10 plan does cut people off data completely for going over data caps.

End of discussion.
 

simpletron

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This is absolutely false.
Do you yourself use Straight Talk or are you just speculating or repeating someone's completely false random musings from the internet?
I've been with Straight Talk for 17 months now. Your assumption is completely false.

Straight Talk does not cut people off for going over data caps, they only throttle.
This Net10 plan does cut people off data completely for going over data caps.

End of discussion.

Pulled from straight talk's term and conditions...

Straight Talk reserves the right to cancel or deactivate service, without notice, in order to protect the Carrier’s network from harm due to any cause including, without limitation, the excessive and/or improper use of Straight Talk service. Straight Talk reserves the right to limit or reduce data throughput speeds or the amount of data transferred, and to deny or terminate Service, to anyone Straight Talk believes is using the Straight Talk Unlimited Talk, Text and Mobile Web Access Plan in an unauthorized manner or whose usage, in Straight Talk’s sole discretion, adversely impacts the Carrier’s network or customer service levels. Straight Talk will presume you are engaging in an unauthorized use in violation of these Terms and Conditions if in Straight Talk’s sole opinion, you are placing an abnormally high number of calls, or repeatedly placing calls of unusually long duration, or if your talk, text or Mobile Web usage is harmful or disruptive to the Carrier’s network or service levels. If we determine, at our sole discretion, that you are using an unlimited service in violation of the Straight Talk Terms and Conditions of Service, or in any other manner that we deem to be unreasonable or excessive, then we may terminate individual calls, terminate or reduce the speed of data connection throughput, Mobile Web Access or terminate your service, decline to renew your service, or offer you a different service plan with no unlimited usage component.

excessive usage on a "unlimited" plan = straight talk can terminate service without notice
 

lothar

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Pulled from straight talk's term and conditions...

Straight Talk reserves the right to cancel or deactivate service, without notice, in order to protect the Carrier’s network from harm due to any cause including, without limitation, the excessive and/or improper use of Straight Talk service. Straight Talk reserves the right to limit or reduce data throughput speeds or the amount of data transferred, and to deny or terminate Service, to anyone Straight Talk believes is using the Straight Talk Unlimited Talk, Text and Mobile Web Access Plan in an unauthorized manner or whose usage, in Straight Talk’s sole discretion, adversely impacts the Carrier’s network or customer service levels. Straight Talk will presume you are engaging in an unauthorized use in violation of these Terms and Conditions if in Straight Talk’s sole opinion, you are placing an abnormally high number of calls, or repeatedly placing calls of unusually long duration, or if your talk, text or Mobile Web usage is harmful or disruptive to the Carrier’s network or service levels. If we determine, at our sole discretion, that you are using an unlimited service in violation of the Straight Talk Terms and Conditions of Service, or in any other manner that we deem to be unreasonable or excessive, then we may terminate individual calls, terminate or reduce the speed of data connection throughput, Mobile Web Access or terminate your service, decline to renew your service, or offer you a different service plan with no unlimited usage component.

excessive usage on a "unlimited" plan = straight talk can terminate service without notice

Despite what that ToS says, Straight Talk only throttles for excessive data usage rather than terminate service.
I'm sure if you take a look at Sprint, Verizon Wireless, or any home internet broadband unlimited data ToS, you will find a similar statement.
Those offending T&S lines that people quote is just boiler plate and you will find it similar statements in all unlimited cell contracts and home broadband internet.

https://www.google.com/search?q=str...94,d.dmQ&fp=5aa946697b233e66&biw=1680&bih=949
You can help yourself by starting on page 1 of that Google search. There are dozens of pages behind that so feel free to browse and read dozens of posts in every link as well.
Then come back and start arguing that Straight Talk cuts people off rather than throttle their data for excessive use.
 

lothar

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For reference, here is Sprint's ToS:
Prohibited Network Uses. To ensure the activities of some users do not impair the ability of our customers to have access to reliable services provided at reasonable costs, you may not use our services in a manner that is unlawful, infringes on intellectual property rights, or harms or unduly interferes with the use of Sprint's network or systems. Sprint reserves the right, without notice or limitation, to limit data throughput speeds or quantities or to deny, terminate, end, modify, disconnect, or suspend service if an individual engages in any of the prohibited voice or data uses detailed below or if Sprint, in its sole discretion, determines action is necessary to protect its wireless networks from harm or degradation. Examples of prohibited voice uses: Sprint voice services are provided solely for live dialogue between, and initiated by, individuals for personal use and as otherwise described in this policy. Sprint services may not be used for any other purposes, including, but not limited to: monitoring services, transmission of broadcasts, transmission of recorded material, telemarketing, autodialed calls, other commercial uses, or other connections that do not consist of uninterrupted live dialogue between individuals. Examples of prohibited data uses: Sprint data services are provided solely for purposes of web surfing, sending and receiving email, photographs and other similar messaging activities, and the non-continuous streaming of videos, downloading of files or on line gaming. Our data services may not be used: (i) to generate excessive amounts of Internet traffic through the continuous, unattended streaming, downloading or uploading of videos or other files or to operate hosting services including, but not limited to, web or gaming hosting; (ii) to maintain continuous active network connections to the Internet such as through a web camera or machine-to-machine connections that do not involve active participation by a person; (iii) to disrupt email use by others using automated or manual routines, including, but not limited to "auto-responders" or cancel bots or other similar routines; (iv) to transmit or facilitate any unsolicited or unauthorized advertising, telemarketing, promotional materials, "junk mail", unsolicited commercial or bulk email, or fax; (v) for activities adversely affecting the ability of other people or systems to use either Sprint's wireless services or other parties' Internet-based resources, including, but not limited to, "denial of service" (DoS) attacks against another network host or individual user; (vi) for an activity that connects any device to Personal Computers (including without limitation, laptops), or other equipment for the purpose of transmitting wireless data over the network (unless customer is using a plan designated for such usage); or (vi) for any other reason that, in our sole discretion violates our policy of providing service for individual use. Unlimited Use Plans. If you subscribe to rate plans, services or features that are described as unlimited, you should be aware that such "unlimited" plans are subject to these Sprint Prohibited Network Uses.

I guess Sprint is not as "unlimited" as everyone thinks. They can do the same exact thing Straight Talk stated in their ToS and so can any broadband home internet or cellphone wireless company.
Quick, somebody stop the presses.
 

Dulanic

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Despite what that ToS says, Straight Talk only throttles for excessive data usage rather than terminate service.
I'm sure if you take a look at Sprint, Verizon Wireless, or any home internet broadband unlimited data ToS, you will find a similar statement.
Those offending T&S lines that people quote is just boiler plate and you will find it similar statements in all unlimited cell contracts and home broadband internet.

https://www.google.com/search?q=str...94,d.dmQ&fp=5aa946697b233e66&biw=1680&bih=949
You can help yourself by starting on page 1 of that Google search. There are dozens of pages behind that so feel free to browse and read dozens of posts in every link as well.
Then come back and start arguing that Straight Talk cuts people off rather than throttle their data for excessive use.

http://www.howardforums.com/showthread.php/1733397-45-Unlocked-SIM-Data-Limit

Theres been many reports from users asking ST, the limit is 2GB, maybe 5GB. A Hofo user, Antenna reported that he was shut off after using around 300MB in a single day but still being under 2GB for the month. (http://www.howardforums.com/showthre...8#post14541478) Other users have reported being shut off while also being under 2GB a month, but it could very well be they went over 100MB of data in a day or maybe was using the phone while "roaming" on another GSM provider ST has agreements with.

I've read of others who lost their phone #s on ST when they shut them off. I get that straight talk is a good value... but holy shit are you defensive. They DO shut people off.
 

lothar

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http://www.howardforums.com/showthread.php/1733397-45-Unlocked-SIM-Data-Limit



I've read of others who lost their phone #s on ST when they shut them off. I get that straight talk is a good value... but holy shit are you defensive. They DO shut people off.
Did you read all 32 pages of that thread or only the front page of the newspaper?
If you did read most pages, you'd notice that the specific poster that you quoted and along with many others in the middle of that thread changed their tune.

That very same poster you quoted also posted these links in that very same thread as evidence that Straight Talk changed from cutting people off to throttling a long time ago.
http://www.howardforums.com/showthr...-and-share-your-experience?highlight=throttle
http://www.howardforums.com/showthr...helped-me-get-UN-throttled?highlight=throttle
http://www.howardforums.com/showthread.php/1764039-Is-my-data-being-throttled?highlight=throttle

Seeing all the posts about being throttled in this forum and the Net10/TF forum, I think its safe to say that ST doesn't just cut people off for using too much data anymore. Granted having your data throttled to edge speeds doesn't make it very usable either. But at least they don't kick people off anymore, which is great news.

Of course, this doesn't mean you should abuse your data either and I still wouldn't recommend ST to heavy data users.

I'm not being defensive at all...I'm simply stopping you from spreading FUD.
 

Uppsala9496

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Sucks that you can't get ST AT&T sims anymore. Have a neighbor that wants to go pre-paid, but t-mobile is spotty at best in my neighborhood (and I am only 35 miles west of Chicago).
Anyone know of any other MVNO's that run on at&t's network?
 

lothar

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Sucks that you can't get ST AT&T sims anymore. Have a neighbor that wants to go pre-paid, but t-mobile is spotty at best in my neighborhood (and I am only 35 miles west of Chicago).
Anyone know of any other MVNO's that run on at&t's network?
Search eBay for an unactivated Straight Talk AT&T SIM.
I know I have one of each(AT&T MicroSim, AT&T regular SIM, and T-Mobile regular SIM), however I'm still trying to make up my mind.

I will probably move to a T-Mobile family value plan and supplement their data holes by having a Verizon hotspot.