Neighbors Stop ICE From Arresting a Man at His Hermitage Home

[DrDoug]

It's good to see good people standing up to our immigration gestapo...

Immigration and Customs Enforcement agents pulled up to a home in Hermitage Monday morning, planning to take a man who lives there into custody. But the man's neighbors ran them off. Neighbors say the man and his son were in a van parked in their driveway, with a white pickup truck driven by an ICE agent parked behind them, blocking them in. Soon more than a dozen neighbors were gathered outside the home, along with immigrant rights advocates, as the man and his son sat in their van, beginning a standoff that lasted several hours. The scene was witnessed by multiple community members who were streaming it live on Facebook.

One of the corrosive side-effects of CBP/ICE actions like this is that it is sowing mistrust of the local police in these communities.

“From the position of the person sitting in the car, the van, who was maybe going to be detained or not be detained, I’m 100 percent sure that they had to have perceived that MNPD was there in support of ICE," Mendes says. "They left at the same time, they’re marked police cars with uniformed, armed officers. So, from the people in the van’s perspective, surely it seems that MNPD was involved or coordinated or something.”

He goes on to say that the police may have been there only to make sure that everything was peaceful, but people are left uncertain if this was really the case. What the people did is probably only delay the inevitable under this administration because one thing I know is that the law doesn't like being stopped from doing their job.

They'll be back.

 

[DarthKyrie]

It's good to see good people standing up to our immigration gestapo...



One of the corrosive side-effects of CBP/ICE actions like this is that it is sowing mistrust of the local police in these communities.



He goes on to say that the police may have been there only to make sure that everything was peaceful, but people are left uncertain if this was really the case. What the people did is probably only delay the inevitable under this administration because one thing I know is that the law doesn't like being stopped from doing their job.

They'll be back.

I can guarantee the cops were there in support of ICE when they should have been there in support of the residents that actually pay their salaries. The cops should have arrested the ICE agents for disturbing the peace.

 

[Luna1968]

It's good to see good people standing up to our immigration gestapo...



One of the corrosive side-effects of CBP/ICE actions like this is that it is sowing mistrust of the local police in these communities.



He goes on to say that the police may have been there only to make sure that everything was peaceful, but people are left uncertain if this was really the case. What the people did is probably only delay the inevitable under this administration because one thing I know is that the law doesn't like being stopped from doing their job.

They'll be back.

Gestapo? why.

 

[DrDoug]

Gestapo? why.

If I have to explain then you aren't paying attention to ICE/CBP and the shit they are doing at the behest of Dear Leader. That or you are happy with what they are doing and you only want to waste my time.

Let's see if you can figure out, for yourself.

 

[dainthomas]

Glad to see the word has gotten out that ICE administrative warrants aren't worth the paper they're printed on.

 

[IJTSSG]

Gestapo? why.

It's TDS. It's turned the epically stupid into houseplant like creatures. "Gestapo" and "Concentration camps" were approved as talking points a while back and the cult of fucktards has dutifully used them when possible. It's just another indication of just how far gone these idiots really are.

 

[s0me0nesmind1]

DUR HUR lets actively disobey laws and not comply with law enforcement. YEA! 'MERICA! PEW PEW PEW

 

[[DHT]Osiris]

DUR HUR lets actively disobey laws and not comply with law enforcement. YEA! 'MERICA! PEW PEW PEW

America was literally founded on people disobeying laws and not complying with law enforcement. It's one of the most American things you can do.

 

[s0me0nesmind1]

I can guarantee the cops were there in support of ICE when they should have been there in support of the residents that actually pay their salaries. The cops should have arrested the ICE agents for disturbing the peace.

Lol are you 12 years old? Christ, you guys are so blindly partisan so much that you make statements as stupid as "The cops should have arrested the ICE agents for disturbing the peace".

That is some grade A stupidity there.

 

[emperus]

Me and my parents were immigrants. And I feel for all the circumstances of the people who come here for a better life. But, if they are out of status and thus breaking the law, I understand ICE agents doing their jobs. We can't pick and choose which laws we agree with or don't. That goes for Trump and every citizen. Our obligation is to work to stand up to and change the laws that we don't agree with.

 

[fskimospy]

DUR HUR lets actively disobey laws and not comply with law enforcement. YEA! 'MERICA! PEW PEW PEW

You're only required to comply with lawful requests from law enforcement. It was not within ICE's power to order them to leave their car so it's perfectly fine that they enforced their rights.

If the cops came up to you tomorrow and asked to search your house without a warrant would you let them? I wouldn't. That's an identical case to here.

 

[fskimospy]

Me and my parents were immigrants. And I feel for all the circumstances of the people who come here for a better life. But, if they are out of status and thus breaking the law, I understand ICE agents doing their jobs. We can't pick and choose which laws we agree with or don't. That goes for Trump and every citizen. Our obligation is to work to stand up to and change the laws that we don't agree with.

ICE has limited resources and can't arrest everyone. Do you think those resources are better employed arresting people engaged in criminal activity or this person, someone who has been a productive and valued member of society for 15 years? Under Trump ICE has de-prioritized criminal aliens and has turned those resources towards law abiding ones.

 

[fskimospy]

It's TDS. It's turned the epically stupid into houseplant like creatures. "Gestapo" and "Concentration camps" were approved as talking points a while back and the cult of fucktards has dutifully used them when possible. It's just another indication of just how far gone these idiots really are.

I like how you're still mad about the concentration camps on the border being called that despite them literally meeting the dictionary definition of concentration camps. Maybe you need to turn some of your TDS rage towards Webster's dictionary or whoever if you don't like what these camps are called.

Alternatively you could, you know, refuse to vote for the moron that decided to fill them up with people.

 

[hal2kilo]

It's TDS. It's turned the epically stupid into houseplant like creatures. "Gestapo" and "Concentration camps" were approved as talking points a while back and the cult of fucktards has dutifully used them when possible. It's just another indication of just how far gone these idiots really are.

Facists gona do facist things. It feels so good to treat fellow human beings like garbage.

 

[brandonbull]

Facists gona do facist things. It feels so good to treat fellow human beings like garbage.

So did the fellow people, have a several years old deportation order against them?

 

[glenn1]

ICE has limited resources and can't arrest everyone. Do you think those resources are better employed arresting people engaged in criminal activity or this person, someone who has been a productive and valued member of society for 15 years? Under Trump ICE has de-prioritized criminal aliens and has turned those resources towards law abiding ones.

The agents were already dispatched and thus the resources have already been spent whether an arrest was made or not. It makes no difference if you disagree with how the cases have been prioritized, you're just plain arguing if they can't arrest "those engaged in criminal activity" then no one should arrested. Which is akin to saying that if cops can't arrest murderers, they shouldn't write speeding tickets and someone driving 130 in a 25MPH zone should just be waved along. You want our immigration laws to be completely ignored and everyone let free even though there's a deportation order for them.

 

[emperus]

ICE has limited resources and can't arrest everyone. Do you think those resources are better employed arresting people engaged in criminal activity or this person, someone who has been a productive and valued member of society for 15 years? Under Trump ICE has de-prioritized criminal aliens and has turned those resources towards law abiding ones.

I agree. WE can argue this isn't what ICE should be prioritizing. But once ICE is there they should be allowed to do their job. What bothers me honestly, is people who are out of status and demanding things. Plead your case, ask for the ability to stay. But once you made the choice to come here you shouls have accepted those consequences of getting caught.

 

[hal2kilo]

I agree. WE can argue this isn't what ICE should be prioritizing. But once ICE is there they should be allowed to do their job. What bothers me honestly, is people who are out of status and demanding things. Plead your case, ask for the ability to stay. But once you made the choice to come here you shouls have accepted those consequences of getting caught.

With the admin, plead you case means instant deportation.

 

[s0me0nesmind1]

I agree. WE can argue this isn't what ICE should be prioritizing. But once ICE is there they should be allowed to do their job. What bothers me honestly, is people who are out of status and demanding things. Plead your case, ask for the ability to stay. But once you made the choice to come here you shouls have accepted those consequences of getting caught.

And thats the problem with having any sensible conversation with the left on immigration reform.

We are in agreeance that we need to speed up the process and not detain them in unsanitary conditions for long periods of time.
We are in agreeance that we need to overall INCREASE immigration - that is to say, legalize more citizens (NOT illegals that border hoped). This is so they can pay taxes, become legally employed, etc...
We are in agreeance that they should have their day in court.


But when it comes to enforcing the rule of law - for some reason liberals think that's evil. They love to preach about how they show up to their court proceedings - the problem is that they statistically do not show up to the final one... You know, the one where they get kicked out?

If we want any reasonable and sensible immigration reform than we need to give people the boot ASAP. No question. If you disagree with that then it's a non-starter. You're too stupid to actively have a discussion on this and honestly should be stripped of the right to vote for being so fucking stupid.

Finally - We are all humans. I understand some people aren't in the best of shape in other countries. The problem is that we aren't some infinite source of wealth that can constantly be distributed. Furthermore, with the likes of automation the chances of an unskilled immigrant not being able to survive in this country is at peak heights. To deny this is simply absurd. Or do we need to talk some more about AI, automation based pizza makers, self-checkouts, robot burger flippers, etc?

You can't just act as if we can all live in harmony and keep adding more and more and more and more infinite people to a pool and think that there is room for everyone. You're far better off trying to make other places a reasonable place to live.

 

[DarthKyrie]

Lol are you 12 years old? Christ, you guys are so blindly partisan so much that you make statements as stupid as "The cops should have arrested the ICE agents for disturbing the peace".

That is some grade A stupidity there.

I love how you are making fun of something that people get arrested for every single fucking day in this country. This is not a partisan issue for me, it is a fiscal issue for me unlike some people within the Reichwing. ICE has better things to be doing, such as rounding up people for committing violent crimes that are immigrants to this country. But go ahead and keep cheering on wasteful spending like the good little conservative shit you are.

 

[s0me0nesmind1]

I love how you are making fun of something that people get arrested for every single fucking day in this country. This is not a partisan issue for me, it is a fiscal issue for me unlike some people within the Reichwing. ICE has better things to be doing, such as rounding up people for committing violent crimes that are immigrants to this country. But go ahead and keep cheering on wasteful spending like the good little conservative shit you are.

Do you have any real clue of who this person is - and if they committed any crimes? Or are you just grasping for straws with your liberal tear jerker reaction to bias media?

You have zero fucking clue but you damn well will assert as if you do BECUZ TEH EVIL ICE!!

 

[DarthKyrie]

Do you have any real clue of who this person is - and if they committed any crimes? Or are you just grasping for straws with your liberal tear jerker reaction to bias media?

You have zero fucking clue but you damn well will assert as if you do BECUZ TEH EVIL ICE!!

I am reacting to what the actual story is about, my personal feelings have no impact on what I think about this. I am sorry that you are used to reacting to things based on your feels but I prefer to use logic, I do have an IQ of 168 and I am also a sociopath so emotions are foreign to me.

 

[fskimospy]

I agree. WE can argue this isn't what ICE should be prioritizing. But once ICE is there they should be allowed to do their job. What bothers me honestly, is people who are out of status and demanding things. Plead your case, ask for the ability to stay. But once you made the choice to come here you shouls have accepted those consequences of getting caught.

The thing is ICE wasn't doing their job. In order to make sure that due process rights are protected in order to invade someone's vehicle or home ICE is required to get a warrant from a judge because we're all protected by the Constitution. They didn't do that.

 

[Fanatical Meat]

Do you have any real clue of who this person is - and if they committed any crimes? Or are you just grasping for straws with your liberal tear jerker reaction to bias media?

You have zero fucking clue but you damn well will assert as if you do BECUZ TEH EVIL ICE!!

Well fact from the article is a whole bunch of neighbors rallied round this guy so I’m guessing he’s a good hombre.
Also nobody spoke of the state, I am shocked.
I guess there really are good people on bolthsides!

 

[fskimospy]

The agents were already dispatched and thus the resources have already been spent whether an arrest was made or not. It makes no difference if you disagree with how the cases have been prioritized, you're just plain arguing if they can't arrest "those engaged in criminal activity" then no one should arrested. Which is akin to saying that if cops can't arrest murderers, they shouldn't write speeding tickets and someone driving 130 in a 25MPH zone should just be waved along. You want our immigration laws to be completely ignored and everyone let free even though there's a deportation order for them.

The resources were not spent because the agents did not request or receive sufficient authority to remove someone from their home or vehicle. Had ICE done otherwise they would be ignoring our immigration laws, something you say you don't want done?