neighbors are getting foreclosed and blaming economy

[PhoKingGuy]

I'm sure that you've heard the aphorism "there are no atheists in foxholes". I don't know, maybe things have never been bad enough for you that you need comfort?

Or we just find inner strength in ourselves? I don't see how taking comfort in believing how some dude on a cloud is going to make everything better improves anything.

 

[PhineasJWhoopee]

Or we just find inner strength in ourselves? I don't see how taking comfort in believing how some dude on a cloud is going to make everything better improves anything.

Given the high number of suicides, especially among teens, that doesn't seem to work for a lot of people.

 

[Ms. DICKINSON]

There's no connection. If you care so much, why not help them out? My family's gonna let go this $312K home under my sis name (now worth 110K). We can afford it of course, but gonna buy another one, same size for 120K under my name. Capitalism lives on.

 

[PhineasJWhoopee]

There's no connection.

I'll admit, I'm not an expert on suicide. Why do you think that people commit suicide?

 

[PhoKingGuy]

I'll admit, I'm not an expert on suicide. Why do you think that people commit suicide?

A common side effect of most SSRI's are suicidal thoughts. Seeing as this shit is handed out as candy to teens nowadays, you can put two and two together.

I've personally witnessed this first hand with a friend of mine.

Interestingly enough, birth control pills make girls ultra mood swingy, rofl.

 

[PhineasJWhoopee]

A common side effect of most SSRI's are suicidal thoughts. Seeing as this shit is handed out as candy to teens nowadays, you can put two and two together.

I've personally witnessed this first hand with a friend of mine.

Interestingly enough, birth control pills make girls ultra mood swingy, rofl.

Maybe SSRI's are an issue in some cases, but I think teen suicide has a been a problem before the widespread use of these drugs.

 

[Ms. DICKINSON]

I'll admit, I'm not an expert on suicide. Why do you think that people commit suicide?

There are other factors involving that OP doesn't know about. I assume he's just seeing it from his window and guessed what had happened. If my neighbor ask me why I'm foreclosing, I would blame on the economy too.

 

[DrPizza]

There are other factors involving that OP doesn't know about. I assume he's just seeing it from his window and guessed what had happened. If my neighbor ask me why I'm foreclosing, I would blame on the economy too.

That's what I said earlier. Student loans are easily deferred. An adjustable rate mortgage is actually a positive thing over the past year or two. Interest rates have been going down. I believe my current interest rate is 3 point something. Since many companies offer buyouts for employees who can prove they have other health insurance, they very well may come out even further ahead financially due to that. And, while expensive, babies aren't *that* expensive. (Unless you feel compelled to always run out and purchase brand new designer label clothing for them.)

 

[PhineasJWhoopee]

There are other factors involving that OP doesn't know about. I assume he's just seeing it from his window and guessed what had happened. If my neighbor ask me why I'm foreclosing, I would blame on the economy too.

Maybe because of the economy he took a salary cut and that pushed him over the edge financially. Or, because of the economy his wife couldn't find a job. There just not enough info here.

My sense is the OP mostly objects to this couple having children.

 

[alevasseur14]

I believe that about 70% of all Americans live paycheck to paycheck? None of those people should have children?

Do you think that their should be a means test for having children?

We're a ONE income family and have managed to raise two children. It can be done.

Holy crap. I just realized this asinine post was in response to me...

Yes, I know how many people live paycheck to paycheck. I'm one of them.

No, I don't think there should be a means test for having children. Sure, it'd be nice but I'll never take that right away from someone.

My Mom didn't work most of mine and my siblings (2) childhood. My sister is staying at home with her three kids while her husband works. Of course I know it can be done. I'm not saying it can't. What I am saying is that my parents and my sister are able to live within their means. For the couple in the OPs post, you asked for evidence that they weren't the best parents and I gave it to you. If you have a child, that's priority number one and the flashy lifestyle becomes a very, very distant last.

That's the only point I was attempting to make.

 

[zinfamous]

Huh?

#1 Everyone sucks as a parent at some point in time
#2 What does that mean? They are starving?
#3 Yes, if you hate children, having them is probably a bad idea.
#4 Who decides who has the proper genes to have children?

The comment about this couple having children is plain strange. Do you have evidence that they are not taking care of their child properly.

stop getting all catholic on him. there are people in this world that choose not to procreate. they do not believe that god commands them to fuck and fuck until the world is littered with yet more of his pious drones.

a shocking concept to you, I know...but just accept the truth in that.

 

[Fullmetal Chocobo]

Huh?

#1 Everyone sucks as a parent at some point in time
#2 What does that mean? They are starving?
#3 Yes, if you hate children, having them is probably a bad idea.
#4 Who decides who has the proper genes to have children?

The comment about this couple having children is plain strange. Do you have evidence that they are not taking care of their child properly.

RE #4... I have a condition that is genetic (Dermatitis Herpatiformis and Celiac's Disease). I definitely take this into consideration when I or my wife and I talk about having kids. I don't think the proper genes refers to having good ones, but rather not having fucked up ones.

 

[tcsenter]

Whatever. Why is my iPhone made in china employing 170,000 foxconn workers instead of Detroit where people are warehoused on welfare. I pay twice.

Because the people in China actually are willing to work.

 

[Binarycow]

Choosing to have children CAN BE the single most selfish decision most people ever make in the course of their entire lives. Ball's in your court mate.

There, I fixed it for you. Hopefully, it was a misuse of words, otherwise, your parents should have aborted your sorry and ungrateful ass while they could.

 

[Ronstang]

Because the people in China actually are willing to work.

If people here are not willing to work then they need to starve. Maybe that will motivate them a bit, if not we are all better off either way.

 

[tcsenter]

If people here are not willing to work then they need to starve. Maybe that will motivate them a bit, if not we are all better off either way.

Well there is always thieving, fraud, and criminality. We are, after all, talking about Detroit where criminality is considered an acceptable if not respectable vocation (urban/inner city culture).

 

[Slapstick]

Having a kid when you're broke may be a smart idea financially. You get/qualify for foodstamps, WIC, medicaid, TANIF, housing assistance, etc. Basically you now qualify for all kinds of government welfare benefits, it costs you nothing but it costs the rest of us plenty.

 

[sandorski]

House values always Increase!

 

[darkswordsman17]

Maybe because of the economy he took a salary cut and that pushed him over the edge financially. Or, because of the economy his wife couldn't find a job. There just not enough info here.

My sense is the OP mostly objects to this couple having children.

And how does that change the fact that if they had not been idiots they would be in a much better position now?

What led to the bad economy? Poor financial decisions....

 

[darkswordsman17]

Given the high number of suicides, especially among teens, that doesn't seem to work for a lot of people.

So, are you trying to claim that everyone that commits suicide is an atheist?

 

[dmcowen674]

yet they fail to acknowledge the following things

1. try to maintain a household on one teachers salary while paying mortgages and student loan debt
2. making frivolous purchases such as world trips on home equity loans during the "boom" housing times.
3. deciding to have a child while already living paycheck to paycheck
4. Deciding to forgo solid insurance through an employer and getting "disaster" only medical insurance from a private insurer.

I don't fucking understand people, so sad to see someone do this to themselves, but they just don't get it.

Who in their right mind would have a kid when you can barely survive as it is?

Damn your hatred for this country is so clear, why the fuck are you here?

 

[dmcowen674]

mizzou... Would like to know how you do know so much about these people...? Just curious...

They will be so much better off getting away from his America hating ass.

 

[dmcowen674]

Quote:
You CAN"T bring a child into this world if you can't pay for it's food, medical care, and minimal education (whatever it takes for public school), and clothing.

mizzou... Oh yes I can... I have the ability as does anyone to find a way to raise a child and that is what our country is about...!

Your wasting your breath on his America hating Republican ass.

 

[dmcowen674]

I'm still trying to figure out how this is any of your fucking business...

When did Americans become such busy bodies?

That's what Republicans do.

Up until a couple of years ago they were all about keeping gays from marrying, now that so many of them got caught playing with each other in bathroom stalls and male prostitutes and they lost power they are turning to controlling your finances and whether you can have children or not.

 

[dmcowen674]

Just realized this was in Off Topic

sorry would not have posted, this is reserved for P&N.