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Neighbor Found Guilty on Murder 1 of his wife.

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Zivic

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Update:

here is the reporting following the sentencing. a lot of info in this video. good recap
http://www.fox9.com/news/investigators/stephen-allwine-sentenced-to-life-in-prison-for-wifes-murder



Jury came back last night with a guilty verdict. Convicted on Murder 1

sentencing is tomorrow. I went to most of the trial. not much of a defense was made. hard to make up one when one doesn't really exist and an overwhelming amount of evidence against you.

case was made by BCA lab tech testifying only his and her DNA were on the gun. Computer forensics analyst Mark Lanterman tied emails and bitcoin transaction ID back to Steve's devices. Pretty interesting testimony.

Amy's family had a fair amount of supporters. Not sure this provides closure, but I guess the best they could hope for given the circumstances.

Sentencing is tomorrow
 
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One of my neighbors was arrested recently for murdering his wife and 3 month old baby (their throats were slit in their beds).

Crazy stuff.
 
Zivic said:
it was reported that he would have his first court appearance today.

obviously being close to home, I've been following this case since the beginning. Lots of rumors surrounding this case.
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When you're in jail the first court appearance is nothing more than dragging you out of a cell and seeing the judge at the jail. The judge actually has a room at the jail. He's just going to determine bail and if you're eligible to even bail out. Shouldn't last more than a few minutes and the public isn't allowed to be there.
 
OILFIELDTRASH said:
When you're in jail the first court appearance is nothing more than dragging you out of a cell and seeing the judge at the jail. The judge actually has a room at the jail. He's just going to determine bail and if you're eligible to even bail out. Shouldn't last more than a few minutes and the public isn't allowed to be there.
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I had originally thought this...
 
Zivic said:
this is the basics on the case to the this point:
http://www.fox9.com/news/229688053-story


I want to go to the arraignment which is supposed to be today. trying to find him on the court calender and i cannot. Any place else I should be looking?
http://www.mncourts.gov/washingtoncounty


Stephen Carl Allwine
Washington County MN
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Zivic said:
innocent until proven guilty.... only accused at this point
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Zivic said:
it was reported that he would have his first court appearance today.

obviously being close to home, I've been following this case since the beginning. Lots of rumors surrounding this case.
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Sounds to me like the OP is worried that the cops might find out who REALLY did it. Quoted posts for the investigation into the OP once they realize the husband didn't do it. Why else would you be so interested in being in the courtroom?

Start running OP, it's only a matter of time until they find out
 
highland145 said:
Pics?


And if they're postmortem, Zivic is our man.


Edit: and religious nut job.
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Zivic definitely did it

This has lifetime movie written all over it, and with the pre-wife watching so many of them lately I've had a lot of time to analyze them when I look up from my laptop screen.

Zivic's Lifetime movie:

Wife gets murdered, husband gets blamed... but one female detective doesn't buy it. She spends the movie digging into it, including several heart-to-heart moments speaking to the husband behind bars. She can just FEEL he's being honest when he says he didn't do it (because she's so perceptive, you see). Every time she brings it up to her superiors (male of course) they tell her she's nuts and she should stop her wild goose chase. But dammit... she just KNOWS he didn't do it.

In the background of all the court scenes there's this one creepy guy who's in the crowd with a little grin on his face. There's an instance where the detective looks around the room and catches a quick glance at the guy grinning, and right when the camera stops on his face there's a dramatic swing in the music. Uh oh... this guy is no good. She's instantly suspicious, almost like she could hear the dramatic soundtrack herself. She asks the person next to her who that creepy guy is and they say, "Oh that's just their neighbor. Poor guy has been pretty shaken by this whole thing. I guess he's been following this case from the beginning, since it's so close to home."

"WHY IS HE SO INTERESTED?!?!" she thinks. She wants permission to search his house but of course her male supervisors won't allow such a thing based on a hunch. The ends justify the means though, so she plans to enter his home during the next court date when he knows the neighbor will be in the courtroom. What she doesn't know is that the court date got pushed back due to the judge falling ill at the last minute. She's in the neighbor's house when he comes home early from cancelled court date. A struggle ensues where she gets her gun knocked out of her hand quickly, and ends up knocking him out with a well timed lamp to the face (should have went with the integrated lighting, prick).

She calls in for backup and they arrest the guy while he's still unconscious, and find all sorts of evidence that he did it. She feels relieved, and runs to personally let the wrongfully accused husband out of jail. They have a tender moment where she asks if he'll stick around, then he says no he doesn't want to stay around with the painful memories. He gets on a bus and GTFO

Since it's a lifetime movie there has to be a twist ending: They hear from the neighbor once he comes to that he was actually HIRED by the husband to take out of the wife... but it was supposed to look like an accident. The husband got wrongfully blamed and it all went to hell. One of the guards feels guilty and admits that the judge "fell ill" that day because the husband paid one of the guards to poison the judge and got his court date delayed.
 
lolol. Excellent story for the life time channel (aka wife beaters network). You'd better copy write that or whatever play writes do before the WBN steals your story.
 
You guys have quite the imaginations... Truthfully though the rumors on the case are insane. If they are true it has a cable special written all over it.

I made it to the courthouse for the hearing today. Charged with 2nd degree murder. 500k conditional bail, 1mil with no conditions.
 
Zivic said:
You guys have quite the imaginations... Truthfully though the rumors on the case are insane. If they are true it has a cable special written all over it.

I made it to the courthouse for the hearing today. Charged with 2nd degree murder. 500k conditional bail, 1mil with no conditions.
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Watch out, Brandon, the shark is already circling.
 
gorcorps said:
Zivic definitely did it

This has lifetime movie written all over it, and with the pre-wife watching so many of them lately I've had a lot of time to analyze them when I look up from my laptop screen.

Zivic's Lifetime movie:

Wife gets murdered, husband gets blamed... but one female detective doesn't buy it. She spends the movie digging into it, including several heart-to-heart moments speaking to the husband behind bars. She can just FEEL he's being honest when he says he didn't do it (because she's so perceptive, you see). Every time she brings it up to her superiors (male of course) they tell her she's nuts and she should stop her wild goose chase. But dammit... she just KNOWS he didn't do it.

In the background of all the court scenes there's this one creepy guy who's in the crowd with a little grin on his face. There's an instance where the detective looks around the room and catches a quick glance at the guy grinning, and right when the camera stops on his face there's a dramatic swing in the music. Uh oh... this guy is no good. She's instantly suspicious, almost like she could hear the dramatic soundtrack herself. She asks the person next to her who that creepy guy is and they say, "Oh that's just their neighbor. Poor guy has been pretty shaken by this whole thing. I guess he's been following this case from the beginning, since it's so close to home."

"WHY IS HE SO INTERESTED?!?!" she thinks. She wants permission to search his house but of course her male supervisors won't allow such a thing based on a hunch. The ends justify the means though, so she plans to enter his home during the next court date when he knows the neighbor will be in the courtroom. What she doesn't know is that the court date got pushed back due to the judge falling ill at the last minute. She's in the neighbor's house when he comes home early from cancelled court date. A struggle ensues where she gets her gun knocked out of her hand quickly, and ends up knocking him out with a well timed lamp to the face (should have went with the integrated lighting, prick).

She calls in for backup and they arrest the guy while he's still unconscious, and find all sorts of evidence that he did it. She feels relieved, and runs to personally let the wrongfully accused husband out of jail. They have a tender moment where she asks if he'll stick around, then he says no he doesn't want to stay around with the painful memories. He gets on a bus and GTFO

Since it's a lifetime movie there has to be a twist ending: They hear from the neighbor once he comes to that he was actually HIRED by the husband to take out of the wife... but it was supposed to look like an accident. The husband got wrongfully blamed and it all went to hell. One of the guards feels guilty and admits that the judge "fell ill" that day because the husband paid one of the guards to poison the judge and got his court date delayed.
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Or since it was an illegal search the neighbor gets off and then goes after the detective. lol
 
a good neighbor would put up the bail so he can find the real killers

Zivic said:
Charged with 2nd degree murder. 500k conditional bail, 1mil with no conditions.
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you gonna do it right? $50k cash + all your worldly posessions?

c'mon we wanna watch this on dateline or whatever
 
Yikes that's some scary stuff. Hide yo kids hide yo wife, lock yo doors. The justice system is SLOW when it comes to murderers so it's not like he'll be going to jail any time soon. You'll be living next door to a murderer for the next few years. I would keep it low key. I would not go to any hearings or otherwise be involved in any way. Police will probably want to talk to you, comply with that obviously but see if you can go to the station for that. Park somewhere else then walk to the station so your car is not seen there.
 
Red Squirrel said:
Yikes that's some scary stuff. Hide yo kids hide yo wife, lock yo doors. The justice system is SLOW when it comes to murderers so it's not like he'll be going to jail any time soon. You'll be living next door to a murderer for the next few years. I would keep it low key. I would not go to any hearings or otherwise be involved in any way. Police will probably want to talk to you, comply with that obviously but see if you can go to the station for that. Park somewhere else then walk to the station so your car is not seen there.
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Man, you sure like to spout off a lot of words about things with which you clearly have very little experience. It doesn't matter what the subject is, you're eager to proudly display your ignorance.
 
The biggest red flag that comes up in these cases of suicides staging, is that they leave a gun that cycled cleanly at the scene. The combination of holding the gun in an awkward position, plus dying as you get shot, will cause the semi-auto action to not cycle properly and will result in a failure to eject.

If he was smart he would have done it with a revolver, or limp-wristed it himself to create the jam.
 
nakedfrog said:
Man, you sure like to spout off a lot of words about things with which you clearly have very little experience. It doesn't matter what the subject is, you're eager to proudly display your ignorance.
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WTF are you going on about now?

Murder trials tend to be extremely slow and tend to drag on for years. That's a fairly well established fact. Hear of a murder on the news, then only years later you actually hear of any kind of trial or punishment. Or sometimes for some silly reason they don't actually get convicted and run scott free, like that guy who beheaded someone on a bus years ago. Best not to be involved with these people in any way shape or form in case they see you as a threat.
 
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