Nehelam CAN overclock says TG.

[geoffry]

Heres the link, enjoy

http://www.tgdaily.com/content/view/37824/135/

 

[Idontcare]

I believe Amberclad made the point that mobo makers (and I'll add ram OEM's too) depend on the enthusiast community to buy up these $400 mobo's for their OC'ing capability and this market segment as a whole does in fact have a lot of $'s associated with it so there would be serious resistance to anyone jeopardizing this revenue flow.

I'm a big believer in following the money, and I think Amberclad hit the nail on the head. Enthusiasts are just passively allowed to exist because some decision makers haven't elected to snub us out, there is a financial reason our market segment exists.

 

[geoffry]

One thing I'm curious about in that article is talk of a DDR2-1600 IMC....does that mean that nehalem will in fact support DDR2? This is the first I've heard of this, I always thought it was DDR3 only...

 

[jones377]

Originally posted by: geoffry
One thing I'm curious about in that article is talk of a DDR2-1600 IMC....does that mean that nehalem will in fact support DDR2? This is the first I've heard of this, I always thought it was DDR3 only...

It was a typo

 

[DSF]

Originally posted by: geoffry
One thing I'm curious about in that article is talk of a DDR2-1600 IMC....does that mean that nehalem will in fact support DDR2? This is the first I've heard of this, I always thought it was DDR3 only...

There's no such thing as DDR2-1600, so I would imagine they meant DDR3.

 

[Foxery]

Crazy rumors are crazy!

Enthusiast motherboard and RAM makers aren't out of a job yet.

 

[geoffry]

Originally posted by: DSF

Originally posted by: geoffry
One thing I'm curious about in that article is talk of a DDR2-1600 IMC....does that mean that nehalem will in fact support DDR2? This is the first I've heard of this, I always thought it was DDR3 only...

There's no such thing as DDR2-1600, so I would imagine they meant DDR3.

Ya, it seemed very bizarre, though for some reason I didn't think typo, i must be cuckoo...DDR-2 at 1600 mhz would require an insane voltage, lol.

 

[Idontcare]

Originally posted by: geoffry
Ya, it seemed very bizarre, though for some reason I didn't think typo, i must be cuckoo...DDR-2 at 1600 mhz would require an insane voltage, lol.

Or another die-shrink at the memory manufacturers. But selling this product would undermine the industry's desire to migrate to DDR3 (show me the $) so even when the technology exists you can bet it won't see the light of day.

 

[error8]

If Intel would have blocked overclocking, I would have jump the AMD boat again, despite lower performance of their chips. It's a horrible marketing scheme to block cpus clocks. I'm happy that Intel changed its mind.

 

[bryanW1995]

i don't think that intel changed their mind so much as they just never made a decision about it in the first place. there are still going to be some major hurdles to overcome to get high overclocks, however, so don't count on that 50% oc quite yet...

 

[aigomorla]

Originally posted by: error8
If Intel would have blocked overclocking, I would have jump the AMD boat again, despite lower performance of their chips. It's a horrible marketing scheme to block cpus clocks. I'm happy that Intel changed its mind.

even if the fact that intel's neha not overclocked would probably = a uber clocked AMD. Or possibly even faster?

I think id still take the Intel.

 

[error8]

Originally posted by: aigomorla

Originally posted by: error8
If Intel would have blocked overclocking, I would have jump the AMD boat again, despite lower performance of their chips. It's a horrible marketing scheme to block cpus clocks. I'm happy that Intel changed its mind.

even if the fact that intel's neha not overclocked would probably = a uber clocked AMD. Or possibly even faster?

I think id still take the Intel.

No, I'd prefer the slower chip, just because they'll let me use it to its fullest and not blocking features of it to force me buying the better and the more expensive ones.

 

[aigomorla]

Originally posted by: error8

Originally posted by: aigomorla

Originally posted by: error8
If Intel would have blocked overclocking, I would have jump the AMD boat again, despite lower performance of their chips. It's a horrible marketing scheme to block cpus clocks. I'm happy that Intel changed its mind.

even if the fact that intel's neha not overclocked would probably = a uber clocked AMD. Or possibly even faster?

I think id still take the Intel.

No, I'd prefer the slower chip, just because they'll let me use it to its fullest and not blocking features of it to force me buying the better and the more expensive ones.

heh..

to each his own my friend.

 

[AmberClad]

Originally posted by: Idontcare
I believe Amberclad made the point that mobo makers (and I'll add ram OEM's too) depend on the enthusiast community to buy up these $400 mobo's for their OC'ing capability and this market segment as a whole does in fact have a lot of $'s associated with it so there would be serious resistance to anyone jeopardizing this revenue flow.

I would add aftermarket heatsink and thermal paste as well. Anyways, the general trend I've been seeing lately is Intel is getting more accepting of the overclocking phenomenon, not less so. A few examples.

- Bad Axe/Bonetrail/Skulltrail
- XMP memory profiles
- ETU:

Launched today at Computex in Taipei, the P45 will come with Intel's Extreme Tuning Utility (ETU), an app that the company said would bring "overclocking to the mainstream". The tool uses Wizards to allow users to adjust a range of system speed parameters to try to boost performance.

 

[Idontcare]

Originally posted by: AmberClad
- ETU:

Launched today at Computex in Taipei, the P45 will come with Intel's Extreme Tuning Utility (ETU), an app that the company said would bring "overclocking to the mainstream". The tool uses Wizards to allow users to adjust a range of system speed parameters to try to boost performance.

Holy shite they did it!

I said long ago that the litmus test of whether or not Intel was intentionally shutting down overclocking with Nehalem/QPI would be determined by whether or not they released a software based overclocking utility akin to AMD's for Phenom.

Now we can lay all the "Intel is anti-overclocking on the budget end" rhetoric to rest.

 

[bryanW1995]

yes, they've pretty much shot that argument out of the water. I think that it is legitmately that there are some serious issues with oc'ing the QPI. Intel and the mobo makers will get them figured out certainly, but it might take some time.

 

[Drsignguy]

It's showing.......... "Officially, the P45 supports frontside bus speeds of up to 1333MHz and DDR 3 memory clocked at up to 1066MHz, but both can be tweaked with ETU" in thier comment. So, does this mean they will be using the DDR2 on the P45 Motherboards ? Or, is this meaning that they haven't made up their minds just yet.

 

[AmberClad]

Some P45s use DDR2, some use DDR3 - a few have both types of slots (you can use either type, but not both at the same time).

 

[Drsignguy]

Yeah, figured. Just like the Gigabyte EP35C-DS3R board has the two types but can only use either or. But am glad to hear that the Two are available to the consumer

 

[demiurge3141]

Everyone knew you can overclock the highend guys,it is the lowend sockets

 

[Extelleron]

Originally posted by: demiurge3141
Everyone knew you can overclock the highend guys,it is the lowend sockets

Exactly.

We've known for a while that LGA-1366 Nehalem will be overclockable, and the platform will be intended for enthusiasts (so made with overclocking in mind.)

The key is LGA-1160, and right now nobody knows whether it will be able to overclock.

 

[geoffry]

Originally posted by: Extelleron

Originally posted by: demiurge3141
Everyone knew you can overclock the highend guys,it is the lowend sockets

Exactly.

We've known for a while that LGA-1366 Nehalem will be overclockable, and the platform will be intended for enthusiasts (so made with overclocking in mind.)

The key is LGA-1160, and right now nobody knows whether it will be able to overclock.

I'll throw out another "exactly"....with everyone knowing that the high ends will overclock, why would TG say "Credible information we were able to obtain from industry sources suggest that rumors about Intel preventing users from overclocking Nehalem processors are false. "

If it was always known that the high end could overclock why would there be rumours that they can't?

Hence why I think they are referring to the cheaper ones.

 

[Idontcare]

Originally posted by: geoffry

Originally posted by: Extelleron

Originally posted by: demiurge3141
Everyone knew you can overclock the highend guys,it is the lowend sockets

Exactly.

We've known for a while that LGA-1366 Nehalem will be overclockable, and the platform will be intended for enthusiasts (so made with overclocking in mind.)

The key is LGA-1160, and right now nobody knows whether it will be able to overclock.

I'll throw out another "exactly"....with everyone knowing that the high ends will overclock, why would TG say "Credible information we were able to obtain from industry sources suggest that rumors about Intel preventing users from overclocking Nehalem processors are false. "

If it was always known that the high end could overclock why would there be rumours that they can't?

Hence why I think they are referring to the cheaper ones.

Has everyone been assuming this whole thread that the TG article was referring to Bloomfield (LGA-1366) and not havendale or allendale?

All my posts were with the assumption that we all were talking about LGA-1160 chips, not bloomfield. Sorry for the confusion I created, if any.

 

[geoffry]

Originally posted by: Idontcare

Originally posted by: geoffry

Originally posted by: Extelleron

Originally posted by: demiurge3141
Everyone knew you can overclock the highend guys,it is the lowend sockets

Exactly.

We've known for a while that LGA-1366 Nehalem will be overclockable, and the platform will be intended for enthusiasts (so made with overclocking in mind.)

The key is LGA-1160, and right now nobody knows whether it will be able to overclock.

I'll throw out another "exactly"....with everyone knowing that the high ends will overclock, why would TG say "Credible information we were able to obtain from industry sources suggest that rumors about Intel preventing users from overclocking Nehalem processors are false. "

If it was always known that the high end could overclock why would there be rumours that they can't?

Hence why I think they are referring to the cheaper ones.

Has everyone been assuming this whole thread that the TG article was referring to Bloomfield (LGA-1366) and not havendale or allendale?

All my posts were with the assumption that we all were talking about LGA-1160 chips, not bloomfield. Sorry for the confusion I created, if any.

I was talking about the LGA-1160's as well, my "exactly" was sarcastic.....with absolutely zero rumours on the 1366's being locked, I have to think that TG was referring to the cheapies.

 

[taltamir]

Originally posted by: bryanW1995
i don't think that intel changed their mind so much as they just never made a decision about it in the first place. there are still going to be some major hurdles to overcome to get high overclocks, however, so don't count on that 50% oc quite yet...

good point... didn't this "info" originate from fraudzilla?