Nehalem Review
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IMO it's nothing to be excited about unless it oc's above 4ghz or games all of the sudden go crazy on SMT.
but I'm mostly a gamer. crunchers, editors, admins, server it guys will be very excited to have one of these for their multi-threaded capabilites
If you are not a gamer core i7 is really good at running apps faster than C2D. But in games its equal between C2D and i7.
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Conclusions:
"[Summary of the test and feelings]
As the next generation of Intel's top-most powerful CPU, Core i7 very strong performance, basically all non-game-type projects are bypassing behalf of the Royal QX9770, with 20-30% of the under-frequency performance advantages bring To speed up the experience is perfect, no amount of computing in a number of heavy multi-threaded performance of the procedure under almost the trumpet is a "Skulltrail" platform, such as in Sisoft Sandra 2009, the performance is very good, far exceeds the contrast product platform.
Good finish, we are concerned at the lack of: First of all, many of the current software for multi-core CPU utilization is far from being in place; Secondly, no software can use to Nehalem's built-in memory controller, and then AMD memory controller into the CPU when the internal procedures we have in most years have seen nearly 20% of the performance; HT Hyper-Threading technology is still not the level of play; enhance the performance of the game is limited, you can see from this For fans of the game, you want to play cool games, the use of more high-end GPU is the best.
Prices of Intel Core i7 Extreme Edition i7-965 (3.2GHz, 8MB L3, LGA1366, Product Code BX80601965, QPI 6.4GT/sec), is expected to priced at 999 U.S. dollars. Intel Core i7-940 (2.93GHz, 8MB L3, LGA1366, Product Code BX80601940, QPI 4.8GT/sec), is expected to priced at 562 U.S. dollars. Intel Core i7-920 (2.66GHz, 8MB L3, LGA1366, Product Code BX80601920, QPI 4.8GT/sec), is expected to priced at 284 U.S. dollars. I am afraid that most people are concerned about is the lowest frequency, the lowest price of Intel Core i7-920, its overclocking performance in the end, the price could drop even further and so on are players who ask.
There are of concern to the memory / CPU voltage, although there are many articles that Nehalem's CPU and memory voltage is the voltage increase or decrease in sync, but we can only say that based on a different BIOS design, there will be a different situation, Intel was very Clear that if the voltage setting beyond the scope of 1.50V-1.65V, it may affect the life of CPU. While in previous tests we are used to adjust the voltage to a high extent to achieve a better level of performance, but this time we strongly recommend that all players are as much as possible to maintain the value of the voltage in the range Intel provided, in In the near future, the memory manufacturers are likely to produce some of the low voltage of DDR3-1066 to DDR3-1600 memory, and to maintain a very low delay, the current JEDEC standard DDR3 can be completely normal in the run X58, the delay is only slightly higher A number.
However, I personally still insist that if a good motherboard design work, a good cooling equipment, as well as excellent BIOS design ,1.7-1 .8 V voltage is acceptable (I purely personal opinion), so in the future The high-frequency low-voltage version of DDR3 memory will be able to lower the voltage to achieve the 1866-2200MHz frequency, while not meeting the extreme demands of enthusiasts, but for most of the players have accepted the terms. The author's personal experience is that if the three-channel state of 1.65V to achieve DDR3-1333 5-5-5-12, or DDR3-1500 / 1600 6-6-5-15, memory bandwidth is also considerable. So i7/X58 for the players, not the kind of user P45/X38/X48 similar high-low-frequency effects of delayed memory."
"[Summary of the test and feelings]
As the next generation of Intel's top-most powerful CPU, Core i7 very strong performance, basically all non-game-type projects are bypassing behalf of the Royal QX9770, with 20-30% of the under-frequency performance advantages bring To speed up the experience is perfect, no amount of computing in a number of heavy multi-threaded performance of the procedure under almost the trumpet is a "Skulltrail" platform, such as in Sisoft Sandra 2009, the performance is very good, far exceeds the contrast product platform.
Good finish, we are concerned at the lack of: First of all, many of the current software for multi-core CPU utilization is far from being in place; Secondly, no software can use to Nehalem's built-in memory controller, and then AMD memory controller into the CPU when the internal procedures we have in most years have seen nearly 20% of the performance; HT Hyper-Threading technology is still not the level of play; enhance the performance of the game is limited, you can see from this For fans of the game, you want to play cool games, the use of more high-end GPU is the best.
Prices of Intel Core i7 Extreme Edition i7-965 (3.2GHz, 8MB L3, LGA1366, Product Code BX80601965, QPI 6.4GT/sec), is expected to priced at 999 U.S. dollars. Intel Core i7-940 (2.93GHz, 8MB L3, LGA1366, Product Code BX80601940, QPI 4.8GT/sec), is expected to priced at 562 U.S. dollars. Intel Core i7-920 (2.66GHz, 8MB L3, LGA1366, Product Code BX80601920, QPI 4.8GT/sec), is expected to priced at 284 U.S. dollars. I am afraid that most people are concerned about is the lowest frequency, the lowest price of Intel Core i7-920, its overclocking performance in the end, the price could drop even further and so on are players who ask.
There are of concern to the memory / CPU voltage, although there are many articles that Nehalem's CPU and memory voltage is the voltage increase or decrease in sync, but we can only say that based on a different BIOS design, there will be a different situation, Intel was very Clear that if the voltage setting beyond the scope of 1.50V-1.65V, it may affect the life of CPU. While in previous tests we are used to adjust the voltage to a high extent to achieve a better level of performance, but this time we strongly recommend that all players are as much as possible to maintain the value of the voltage in the range Intel provided, in In the near future, the memory manufacturers are likely to produce some of the low voltage of DDR3-1066 to DDR3-1600 memory, and to maintain a very low delay, the current JEDEC standard DDR3 can be completely normal in the run X58, the delay is only slightly higher A number.
However, I personally still insist that if a good motherboard design work, a good cooling equipment, as well as excellent BIOS design ,1.7-1 .8 V voltage is acceptable (I purely personal opinion), so in the future The high-frequency low-voltage version of DDR3 memory will be able to lower the voltage to achieve the 1866-2200MHz frequency, while not meeting the extreme demands of enthusiasts, but for most of the players have accepted the terms. The author's personal experience is that if the three-channel state of 1.65V to achieve DDR3-1333 5-5-5-12, or DDR3-1500 / 1600 6-6-5-15, memory bandwidth is also considerable. So i7/X58 for the players, not the kind of user P45/X38/X48 similar high-low-frequency effects of delayed memory."
dunno looks to me if AMD can get Deneb to clock well they have an opening to get back into the game. Nehalem isn't THAT much faster per clock that the current core line.
They used a single 9800gtx+, so all the games benchmarks were very GPU limited and all processors had near identical scores.
myocardia
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- Jun 21, 2003
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Not for us gamers. For people who use software that's already completely multi-threaded (or multiple apps that don't need to be threaded, like F@H), yeah, it's going to be a monster. Luckily for the sever community, their apps are already able to take advantage. I have the feeling that Nehalem will be hugely successful in that sector.
Quite nice but not nice enough for the time being my Q6600 seems the best choice for gaming "I mean taking into aspect price to performance" ...!!!
If you look at the price, esp the price of whole i7 system, I think that 20-25% improvement will cost you 100-200% of extra money.
The upgrade path is a tad harder as most of us have DDR2 so we are looking at tossing that investment in addition to our mobo and CPU (and HSF) as we upgrade to i7.
I've got 8GB of DDR2 on my P5E WS Pro ($250) with my Tuniq Tower. So to upgrade to i7 I got to start out with nothing for ram and cooler. Would be great if someone made a Tuniq Tower bracket and backplate for $10 or less.
Afterall what's 8GB of some decent specs DDR3 gonna cost me? $200-$300 alone? No doubt it's worth it, dual-channel DDR2 vs. triple-channel DDR3, but it's hard to toss 8GB of perfectly working DDR2 out the door on an upgrade whimsy.
If Deneb rolls out nicely then I can use my ram and my HSF for the upgrade. If Yorkfield prices drop nicely in time then I can get away with merely upgrading my CPU (QX6700).
What are you comparing the i7 system to? Sure if you compare an i7 to a Q6600 it pales in price/performance, but so does Yorkfield since price doe not rise linearly with performance gains.
X58 mobos + DDR3 are more expensive, but on the CPU level i7 represents better value. A $284 i920 will beat a $316 Q9550 in any app, slightly in ST and massively in MT.
Nemesis 1
Lifer
- Dec 30, 2006
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Well thats not bad. But is a bit short of what were going to see. Single thread Apps about 20% better than Qpenryn . Thats alot better than what was shown befor. Gaming is something we won't see big immprovments in until the Game developers code a bit better for Nehalem . But still won't see that big of gains. You guys are just going to have to wait till you see intels IC7 running with larrabee. Than use with an AMD platiform with Larrabee . To see the true differances. I was hoping Intel would make Ptoject offset work with both NV an ATI cards. But Intel going to bring it I guess. If we see a working Larrabee AT spring IDF. Larrabee won't be trailing the 40nm NV/ATI .
I would still caution you don't be to critcal of gaming performance until the Ok is Given to show the platiform set up for gaming .
I will say tho anyone who runs out and buys nehalem on release is foolish . Wait for the hydra M/B.
I here alot of people on differant forums saying what they have is fine no reason to upgrade. I couldn't Agree more. But once people see the bennies of a hydra M/B they will want one.
You could get hydra on the Video card also . But I would want both. So I could run 2 cards. Talk about ass kicking.
You guys with the old outdated M/B will still get good results. running Video card. with hydra . all be it 1/2 the performance of hydra on the M/B. with 2 cards or 3 or 4. LoL.
Back to the gaming performance shown hare. Intel wouldn'y allow A true performance for gaming rig to be shown yet. There is a good reason for this. You will understand this Shortly. Relax injoy the next 3 weeks. You guys know how everone screams about the price of the the Ex chips for what they offer. Your still going to scream about the price lol. But your going to want one so bad it hurts.
All you AMD guys that think you have future proof M/B your not living in the real world. Once hydra goes on the M/B . All other M/B are extinct. IF your a GAMER. Best part is you won't have to have to buy Top the line to have great gaming experiance. Up grades won't be nearly so often . You guys that Have new gpu now can simply Added AMD/ATI next gen cards and you have an ass kicking gamer . No matter what GPU's your using .
You guys aren't taking Hydra seriuosly enough. I haven't seen hydra working . But my brother inlaw has. He told me point blank face to face. Its amazing. So wait for Hydra M/B or as I like to call it the Nemesis M/B. It don't have a name yet so I gave it one LOL. For those who forgot about Fall IDF 08.
To aid developers in the creation of multi-threaded applications Intel will launch Parallel Studio (a four-tool plug-in for Microsoft?s Visual Studio) in BETA in November. Intel will also be releasing plug-ins for compilers for Nehalem and Larrabee in the near future.
For those interested In pre Hydra M/B here a beuty.
http://www.vr-zone.com/article...neak_Preview/6126.html
I would still caution you don't be to critcal of gaming performance until the Ok is Given to show the platiform set up for gaming .
I will say tho anyone who runs out and buys nehalem on release is foolish . Wait for the hydra M/B.
I here alot of people on differant forums saying what they have is fine no reason to upgrade. I couldn't Agree more. But once people see the bennies of a hydra M/B they will want one.
You could get hydra on the Video card also . But I would want both. So I could run 2 cards. Talk about ass kicking.
You guys with the old outdated M/B will still get good results. running Video card. with hydra . all be it 1/2 the performance of hydra on the M/B. with 2 cards or 3 or 4. LoL.
Back to the gaming performance shown hare. Intel wouldn'y allow A true performance for gaming rig to be shown yet. There is a good reason for this. You will understand this Shortly. Relax injoy the next 3 weeks. You guys know how everone screams about the price of the the Ex chips for what they offer. Your still going to scream about the price lol. But your going to want one so bad it hurts.
All you AMD guys that think you have future proof M/B your not living in the real world. Once hydra goes on the M/B . All other M/B are extinct. IF your a GAMER. Best part is you won't have to have to buy Top the line to have great gaming experiance. Up grades won't be nearly so often . You guys that Have new gpu now can simply Added AMD/ATI next gen cards and you have an ass kicking gamer . No matter what GPU's your using .
You guys aren't taking Hydra seriuosly enough. I haven't seen hydra working . But my brother inlaw has. He told me point blank face to face. Its amazing. So wait for Hydra M/B or as I like to call it the Nemesis M/B. It don't have a name yet so I gave it one LOL. For those who forgot about Fall IDF 08.
To aid developers in the creation of multi-threaded applications Intel will launch Parallel Studio (a four-tool plug-in for Microsoft?s Visual Studio) in BETA in November. Intel will also be releasing plug-ins for compilers for Nehalem and Larrabee in the near future.
For those interested In pre Hydra M/B here a beuty.
http://www.vr-zone.com/article...neak_Preview/6126.html
PlasmaBomb
Lifer
- Nov 19, 2004
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It would have been nice if they had decided on an order for the processors for the graphs and stuck to it...
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