Need to use both Zerex and anti-bacterial solution?

[jonas123]

I'm going to buy some Zerex (similar to Water Wetter). The question is, do I need to buy some anti-bacteria stuff as well?

Thanks in advance!

 

[HardWarrior]

Originally posted by: jonas123
I'm going to buy some Zerex (similar to Water Wetter). The question is, do I need to buy some anti-bacteria stuff as well?

Thanks in advance!

Anti-freeze really isn't the additive to use in computer water-cooling. At room temp it doesn't do anything to improve heat exchange and actually makes water more viscous. You'd be better off with just distilled water and a dedicated biocide. If you have a mixed metal loop, try slapping in one of the many anti-corrosive additives like Hydrx or Protect.

 

[Idleuser]

while I agree you can pick up a pretty cheap bottle of ZErex at your local pepboy for about 2.49 that will last you years to come for the watering loop. 5% zerex to 95% distill water and add a few drops of antibacterial and you're good to go. Alot cheaper than Hydrx or Innovatek Protect and you can pick it up for less than 7 dollars.

1 dollar for distill water
2.80 for a 14.5oz fl Vavoline Zerex
3.00 for antibaterial at your local petshop.

 

[LifeStealer]

Originally posted by: Idleuser
while I agree you can pick up a pretty cheap bottle of ZErex at your local pepboy for about 2.49 that will last you years to come for the watering loop. 5% zerex to 95% distill water and add a few drops of antibacterial and you're good to go. Alot cheaper than Hydrx or Innovatek Protect and you can pick it up for less than 7 dollars.

1 dollar for distill water
2.80 for a 14.5oz fl Vavoline Zerex
3.00 for antibaterial at your local petshop.

Mcguyver would be proud.

 

[HardWarrior]

Originally posted by: Idleuser
while I agree you can pick up a pretty cheap bottle of ZErex at your local pepboy for about 2.49 that will last you years to come for the watering loop. 5% zerex to 95% distill water and add a few drops of antibacterial and you're good to go. Alot cheaper than Hydrx or Innovatek Protect and you can pick it up for less than 7 dollars.

1 dollar for distill water
2.80 for a 14.5oz fl Vavoline Zerex
3.00 for antibaterial at your local petshop.

Whether a person chooses the cheapest possible solution is based entirely on their resources and how they choose to employ them. I spend about $2000 a year on computer equipment and software. For me it isn't logical to cheap lick on coolant additives that I know aren't good for my loop.

$1.50 for distilled water (1/2 of this is used per loop), $12 for a bottle of Innovatec Protect and $8.00 for dedicated biocide (1\4 of this is used per loop) is nothing when compared to what I spend on other things. If someone is fixated on spending as little as possible, then okay. But those same people shouldn't look down on those who choose to spend more.

 

[LifeStealer]

Originally posted by: HardWarrior

Originally posted by: Idleuser
while I agree you can pick up a pretty cheap bottle of ZErex at your local pepboy for about 2.49 that will last you years to come for the watering loop. 5% zerex to 95% distill water and add a few drops of antibacterial and you're good to go. Alot cheaper than Hydrx or Innovatek Protect and you can pick it up for less than 7 dollars.

1 dollar for distill water
2.80 for a 14.5oz fl Vavoline Zerex
3.00 for antibaterial at your local petshop.

Whether a person chooses the cheapest possible solution is based entirely on their resources and how they choose to employ them. I spend about $2000 a year on computer equipment and software. For me it isn't logical to cheap lick on coolant additives that I know aren't good for my loop.

$1.50 for distilled water (1/2 of this is used per loop), $12 for a bottle of Innovatec Protect and $8.00 for dedicated biocide (1\4 of this is used per loop) is nothing when compared to what I spend on other things. If someone is fixated on spending as little as possible, then okay. But those same people shouldn't look down on those who choose to spend more.

He wasn't looking down on anyone for spending more. But spending more doesn't always produce better results. "Ussually," but not always. I know alot of die-hard water users that swear by the cheaper car solutions.

 

[HardWarrior]

Originally posted by: LifeStealer

Originally posted by: HardWarrior

Originally posted by: Idleuser
while I agree you can pick up a pretty cheap bottle of ZErex at your local pepboy for about 2.49 that will last you years to come for the watering loop. 5% zerex to 95% distill water and add a few drops of antibacterial and you're good to go. Alot cheaper than Hydrx or Innovatek Protect and you can pick it up for less than 7 dollars.

1 dollar for distill water
2.80 for a 14.5oz fl Vavoline Zerex
3.00 for antibaterial at your local petshop.

Whether a person chooses the cheapest possible solution is based entirely on their resources and how they choose to employ them. I spend about $2000 a year on computer equipment and software. For me it isn't logical to cheap lick on coolant additives that I know aren't good for my loop.

$1.50 for distilled water (1/2 of this is used per loop), $12 for a bottle of Innovatec Protect and $8.00 for dedicated biocide (1\4 of this is used per loop) is nothing when compared to what I spend on other things. If someone is fixated on spending as little as possible, then okay. But those same people shouldn't look down on those who choose to spend more.

He wasn't looking down on anyone for spending more. But spending more doesn't always produce better results. "Ussually," but not always. I know alot of die-hard water users that swear by the cheaper car solutions.

You aren't reading the posts in this thread with comprehension. The mixture I use does "produce better results." Also, I've seen posts from people who swear by a correct mixture. So you saying the opposite holds no weight. Glycol-based solutions reduce the ability of water to transfer heat. The closer you get to plain water the better, that's a fact.

 

[LifeStealer]

Originally posted by: HardWarrior

Originally posted by: LifeStealer

Originally posted by: HardWarrior

Originally posted by: Idleuser
while I agree you can pick up a pretty cheap bottle of ZErex at your local pepboy for about 2.49 that will last you years to come for the watering loop. 5% zerex to 95% distill water and add a few drops of antibacterial and you're good to go. Alot cheaper than Hydrx or Innovatek Protect and you can pick it up for less than 7 dollars.

1 dollar for distill water
2.80 for a 14.5oz fl Vavoline Zerex
3.00 for antibaterial at your local petshop.

Whether a person chooses the cheapest possible solution is based entirely on their resources and how they choose to employ them. I spend about $2000 a year on computer equipment and software. For me it isn't logical to cheap lick on coolant additives that I know aren't good for my loop.

$1.50 for distilled water (1/2 of this is used per loop), $12 for a bottle of Innovatec Protect and $8.00 for dedicated biocide (1\4 of this is used per loop) is nothing when compared to what I spend on other things. If someone is fixated on spending as little as possible, then okay. But those same people shouldn't look down on those who choose to spend more.

He wasn't looking down on anyone for spending more. But spending more doesn't always produce better results. "Ussually," but not always. I know alot of die-hard water users that swear by the cheaper car solutions.

You aren't reading the posts in this thread with comprehension. The mixture I use does "produce better results." Also, I've seen posts from people who swear by a correct mixture. So you saying the opposite holds no weight. Glycol-based solutions reduce the ability of water to transfer heat. The closer you get to plain water the better, that's a fact.

How much of an actual difference does the solution you use make in real world use? Two degrees? Its good to see we've both seen posts its nice to know we both have eyes :roll:

The only reason to use additives is for anti-bacterial purposes. 6$ compared to 20$ + Shipping for +/- 1 degree differences. Most hardcore water users don't even bother with specialized computer solutions, just because it says "Ultimate water cooling performance" on the label doesn't make it worth the difference.

P.S. Spend your money on what you want, its your money. Do the research before you make a decision, thats what we have google for. I've got no problem with anyone spending their money on what they want, I'm just saying in real world usage performance gains are marginal at best.

 

[jonas123]

Originally posted by: HardWarrior

Originally posted by: jonas123
I'm going to buy some Zerex (similar to Water Wetter). The question is, do I need to buy some anti-bacteria stuff as well?

Thanks in advance!

Anti-freeze really isn't the additive to use in computer water-cooling. At room temp it doesn't do anything to improve heat exchange and actually makes water more viscous. You'd be better off with just distilled water and a dedicated biocide. If you have a mixed metal loop, try slapping in one of the many anti-corrosive additives like Hydrx or Protect.

Well, numerous people have reported temp drops with either Water Wetter or Zerox. Furthermore, companies like Asetek (www.asetek.com) are endorsing Water Wetter and they are actually supplying it with their water cooling solutions.

 

[HardWarrior]

You can fill your loop with anything you want, which also means I won't argue. I explained my rationale once and won't do it again. I also recommended what >I< think is best. You should ask yourself why you're wasting your time contesting that if not to seem "superior" in >your< choices. If you want to argue silly sh1t, find someone more your intellectual equal.

 

[HardWarrior]

Originally posted by: jonas123

Originally posted by: HardWarrior

Originally posted by: jonas123
I'm going to buy some Zerex (similar to Water Wetter). The question is, do I need to buy some anti-bacteria stuff as well?

Thanks in advance!

Anti-freeze really isn't the additive to use in computer water-cooling. At room temp it doesn't do anything to improve heat exchange and actually makes water more viscous. You'd be better off with just distilled water and a dedicated biocide. If you have a mixed metal loop, try slapping in one of the many anti-corrosive additives like Hydrx or Protect.

Well, numerous people have reported temp drops with either Water Wetter or Zerox. Furthermore, companies like Asetek (www.asetek.com) are endorsing Water Wetter and they are actually supplying it with their water cooling solutions.

It doesn't work that way. Solutions like Water Wetter and Zerex are designed to function in MUCH hotter environments that a PS water-cooling loop. Something approaching 200 degrees. Stop by overclockers.com and read the massive FAQ on comparative coolant mixtures.

Note: We're discussing coolant here, nothing more. I'm not trying to FORCE anyone to use what I do. Let's all play nice, if possible.

 

[LifeStealer]

Kind of old but still a good read.
http://www.overclockers.com/articles609/index.asp

Use vodka as an additive, it'l kill anything

If you want to argue silly sh1t, find someone more your intellectual equal.

lol

 

[HardWarrior]

Coolant Chemistry.

 

[LifeStealer]

*Shrug*