Need to settle an argument... Please vote in the included poll

[Arcadio]

We're in the middle of an argument and I need the collective knowledge of ATOT to settle it once and for all.

I say that you can safely sterilize any object by subjecting it to a very quick and drastic change in temperature.

My other self says that you can only sterilize an object by applying an agent known to kill microorganisms, such as Alcohol or other antibacterial substance.

What do you think?

 

[bobsmith1492]

Google "pasteurization" and be done with it.

 

[zerocool84]

Spit on it and wipe it on your shirt.

 

[shortylickens]

Need option for "Arcadio sucketh the asseth".

 

[Brainonska511]

Really? You should both smack yourselves.

 

[Matthiasa]

what counts as a drastic change?
That said both can. Though bacteria are growing immune to antibacterial stuff due to its over use, but then not using it long enough to fully kill everything.

Oh and fail...
You forgot the poll!

 

[waffleironhead]

autoclave

 

[Arcadio]

what counts as a drastic change?
That said both can. Though bacteria are growing immune to antibacterial stuff due to its over use, but then not using it long enough to fully kill everything.

Like submerging the object in boiling water for just 5 seconds or so and then immediately transferring it to a container with very cold water for another 5 seconds or so.

 

[Mike Gayner]

LOL you're both morons. Anyone who thinks you cannot sterilise with heat should commit seppuku now. On the other hand - no it takes more than "a very quick and drastic change in temperature" - the heat needs to last sufficiently long enough to kill the bacteria, which is, in many cases, a lot more than a "flash in the pan".

 

[Matthiasa]

Like submerging the object in boiling water for just 5 seconds or so and then immediately transferring it to a container with very cold water for another 5 seconds or so.

That wont kill everything... or almost anything.
I want to change my vote now, to well not voting...

Both options are fail.

 

[Mike Gayner]

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Just read your post above - man you're a retard. You have confirmed my believe that you're both as wrong as each other. It's not a change in termperature that kills bacteria and other bugs - it's heat (and in some cases freezing, but this is not as effective).

I wish this discussion was on video - there's few things as amusing as watching two stupid people argue.

 

[DrPizza]

Both options, particularly as you explained later in the thread, are completely wrong.

 

[Fenixgoon]

autoclave

this.

here are the general sterilization methods used for medical products:

steam cleaning
autoclave
ethylene oxide (ETO)
gamma radiation

 

[Arcadio]

I know there are organisms that are immune to even the strongest chemicals, but I'm talking about your average sterilization procedure for the average citizen, not laboratory-type sterilization.

I'm talking about purell-style sterilization.

 

[Mike Gayner]

Yeah you're still both wrong. It takes more than a very quick change in temperature to kill bugs.

 

[Kalmah]

+3 for autoclave. Those usually take about a half hour as well.

 

[MJinZ]

Extreme temperature and pressure.

Nothing biological survives the sun, nor absolute 0, nor complete decomposition from crushing pressurization.

 

[Arcadio]

I would think that no organism can sustain a drastic change in temperature since such change seldom occurs in nature, so there would be no need to evolve such a capability. That's why I posed the question.

 

[Mike Gayner]

You would be wrong.

 

[HannibalX]

I know there are organisms that are immune to even the strongest chemicals, but I'm talking about your average sterilization procedure for the average citizen, not laboratory-type sterilization.

I'm talking about purell-style sterilization.

Boiling water is not beyond the average citizen, no laboratory required.

 

[Ranger]

autoclave, 131c for 10 minutes

 

[ultimatebob]

Wow... there were was a lot of the letter h in those poll options. Most drive Arcadio nuts!

 

[FoBoT]

null
try biology 101 again

 

[FoBoT]

I'm talking about purell-style sterilization.

purell is a scam , it doesn't kill anything, except your bank account

 

[Mr. Pedantic]

Like submerging the object in boiling water for just 5 seconds or so and then immediately transferring it to a container with very cold water for another 5 seconds or so.

That's more than likely to break whatever it is you're trying to sterilize, but it probably won't kill anything. Heat kills most bacteria, but you need to expose it for quite some time - definitely a hell of a lot longer than 5 seconds. On the other hand, sterilization using alcohol will work...but not for all bacteria either.