Need to know a bunch of stuff on 1.4 T-bird overclocking...

[MournSanity]

My computer is getting old. It's a 1.4 Ghz T-bird. If you want the specs, check out the link in my sig and click on The Vortex. Anyways, I want to boost up it's speed a little. I never overclocked in my life, so im a complete newbie, but I know a few things here and there. I also want to overclock my GeForce3ti200.

Anyways, I wanted to know what the average overclocked speed of the T-birds are and what is the best sub-$50 HSF for them. Same thing with the GF3ti200.

And it would help me a lot if you could tell me a few tips and tricks to guide me along the way.

Thanks,

~hyper

 

[lubetek]

well guy, im no expert but ive been doing it for quite awhile. as for what u can expect from that chip, well that depends.....sum chips clock very high and sum dont hardly at all. i have a 1.4GHz ThunderBird that i can only get a lil over 100MHz extra out of. but ive seen others get 200MHz out of it. it really depends on multiple things...RAM, MOBO, HS/F, and all the other hardware ya have...sum Nic cards dont want to over clock much...Realtec make nic cards that dont seem to mind it too much. ANYWAYS...i would start off by going slow.
get a calculator out and id start upping the FSB. keep in mind that by over clocking the FSB u will see the bigger performance gain. but you can play with the multiplier also. if i were u and i felt my ram could handle it id really push the FSB. up the Memory voltage and tweak the Memory timings in the BIOS for that extra speed, then try 140MHz and keep going up untill u cant boot or have problems....try giving the Vcore a boost in voltage too. there is sooo much to do, im jumping around a lot , but im just trying to give u an idea....get a CoolerMaster HHC-001 HS/F or ThermalTake Volcano7+ either one are below 40 bucks and do an awesome job. im running a 1GHz right now and ive been able to pump 500 MHz extra out of her.....right now i cant due to ram problems but when i get my new ram ill be back to over clocking. have fun man!

 

[ucdbiendog]

I just sold my 1.4 tbird (the 133 fsb version) It was an awesome overclocker. With my lapped sk6 and 7000 delta, i got it to 1611mHz (11.5x141 i think). With water cooling i got it even higher at 1702 (11.5x148 me thinks). The key is cooling, good ram, and bein able to get the voltage up there. I have the soyo dragon plus(kt266a) and i can get it up to 1.85. i think the epox board can go higher, i know the amd761 epox board can go up to 2.15v for the core (i once had it, great board). So the first thing for that chip is to get GOOD cooling, it is the hottest AMD chip around. The next thing is to get to know your BIOS and what all the tweaks are. If you are getting errors, try putting the ram back to CAS 2.5 instead of 2. I cant remember what markings were on my chip, but it came with the multiplier unlocked when i got it new.
As for your vid card, i also had a gf3 ti200 (hercules, and idt was a good card). Try using coolbits registry hack. i think you can get it at guru3d. or you can use another proggy that i cant remember the name of, but it isnt a registry hack. I used coolbits. i could get mine to go pretty high. Keep the video bios caching off in the BIOS. Also, again, you will need good cooling. I used the crystal orb from thermaltake. Worked very nicely. If you have any questions about that or anything else, PM me or email me. Good luck, the 1.4 is a lot of fun to OC!!

RYAN

Edit: Damn, i just looked at your rig, and you DO have the epox board iw as talkin about. use the voltage and get good cooling. you will like it a lot.

 

[rogue1979]

Put the Thermalright AX-7 on there, and make sure you have some good case cooling. Crank the 8K7A to about 2.0v and see what you can get. I would expect 1530-1600MHz or so.

 

[Bakwetu]

Is you cpu unlocked (are the L1 bridges connected)? In that case the easisest thing is to oc with the multiplier on the mobo (blue square thing in the lower right corner of the mobo) and/or you can up the fsb (you do that in the bios). Before you do that you should increase the vcore for the cpu. Start with 1.8 -1.9 V and see how high you can overclock and check your temps. The Epox mobo goes very high in vcore, take great care if you go above 1.95 V.

for cooling I recommend thermalright ax7

 

[MournSanity]

Ok. I'm gonna get a thermalright ax-7. And I do remember that when I first built my rig, I especially chose the Epox because I heard it was a good overclocker. I was thinking ahead

When I get my new HSF, I'll ask more questions Thanks ppl.

 

[MournSanity]

All right, I looked up the thermaltight ax 7 and it is only the heatsink, with no fan. Is this right? Then I looked at the thermaltake volcano 7+ but it was $42 and then I saw this:

Thermaltake DRAGON ORB1+. Heatsink + Dual Ball-bearing fan. FAN Speed: 7000±10% RPM. Max. Air Flow: 38CFM. Interface Material: Bergquist 225U. Dimensions: 69 dia mm x 79 mm tall. (* According to Manufacturer, This fan is designed for AMD ATHLON 1.5GHz+, INTEL PIII 1.13GHz & TUALATIN, up to 2.0GHz.*). Mfr's P/N: A1137 Model#: DRAGON ORB 1+ Special FedEx Saver Shipping $6.00

$13! Is this a good HSF? It says 1.5 GHz+ soo....Which one is better?

I also want to get this slot fan to put next to my AGP card:

Enermax's Whispersys System Exhaust Blower(Slot Fan), Cooling fan, Brushless fan, 12V, 4-Pin, 0.18A. Rear mount. Takes heat away from PCI slot area where other system fans don't do. Model#: WS-8SLFS Special FedEx Saver Shipping $6.00

And will this work for my GeForce3Ti200?

hermaltake CRYSTAL ORB for VGA CARD GPU COOLING. Copper Base with Nickel Plating. Can be used for chip sets cooling. Fan Dimension: 50x50x15 mm. Fan Speed: 5500±10% RPM. Max. Air Flow: 12.4CFM. Bearing Type: Ball Bearing. Model#: CRYSTAL ORB (A1178) *** " Click Here for Review. " *** Special FedEx Saver Shipping $6.00


It's all on newegg.com.

I also have a spare case fan laying around so I want to put that in as well. I hope this will have sufficient cooling. Please reply.

 

[MournSanity]

TTT

 

[tracerbullet]

On the video card: 1) Make sure that whatever method that heatsink holds down with is appropriate for your card. Looking at the pictures and then popping the case cover and looking at the card should tell you. 2) Check the height on the combo, and make sure that when it is on your card that it will clear anything next to it. 3) If you have enough air flow in the case (ie 2 fans in front?), you might look at letting them cool the card alone. On my board I left the little metal cover off the back of the case for the PCI slot next to the video card. So the case fans pull air in, and it blows out right past the video card itself. 4) Consider heatsinks on the RAM itself on that card. I got a Thermaltake set designed for putting on system RAM and laid them over the video card memory.

On the chip: 1) That Thermalright heatsink is unbelievable. Alone, it lowered my chip temps 5-10 degrees over the Volcano I had on there before. Get the Thermalright with a high speed fan and you'll be really surprised how much better it is than any $13 combo you can find.

Things to keep in mind: 1) Noise - the more fans you have cooling, the more noise you have. If you game with the speakers turned up or headphones on or somehting similar, it's OK. But if your PC doubles as the DVD player in your living room, you'll be disappointed. 2) Watch what you spend. For example, if a new chip would get your higher speeds for $120, and you could get $50 selling your old one here or to a friend, don't spend moer than that $70 difference on all this stuff to O/C your old one...