need the best o/cing ram

Snakexor

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i want the best 1 gig sticks of o/cing ram, dont care how much it costs....

i would prefer tightest timings at the highest fsb :)
 
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hey there, everyone has been raving for a while now about the ocz revision 2 platinum series...I think the timings are 2-2-2-5 or something ridiculous like that
 

Shimmishim

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i'm gonna have to agree... best timings 222 would have to go to the mushkin redline pc4000.

in terms of highest fsb, i'd go for g.skill tccd (LE/LA/whatever lettering they ahve that use tccd) :)

for 2gig (2x1meg sticks) i'd say go for the crucial ballistix pc4000 or the ocz 2 gig set they just released.
 

Shimmishim

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Originally posted by: 1Dark1Sharigan1
Gskill PC4800 F1-4800DSU2-512FF/1GBFF are the best TCCD . . .

yup. those would be them. :)

for something a little cheaper you can get the 4400LE's. they don't clock as high but are solid performers as well.
 

Heckler 5th

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OP asked about 1GB sticks, people.

get the ballistix, as a lucky few have gotten them to DDR600.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16820146578

their timings will be pretty much locked in at 3-3-3. unfortunately, if you must have better timings, you'll have to compromise MHz so you pretty much have to decide what's more important to you.

for tighter timings, think about these mushkins.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16820146425

you'll find both of these brands in this 2GB OC database but the ballistix dominate.
http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/showthread.php?t=67762

EDIT: WHOA i just found these. these should deserve looking into.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16820227225
 

Snakexor

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i am trying to get "2gb" with 2x1gb sticks....

which would be faster:

my fsb is 280x9....would it be faster to run 1:1 3-3-3-8, use a 166 divider to do like 241 2.5-4-4-8, or 133 divider 2-2-2-5??
 

Leper Messiah

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Originally posted by: Snakexor
i am trying to get "2gb" with 2x1gb sticks....

which would be faster:

my fsb is 280x9....would it be faster to run 1:1 3-3-3-8, use a 166 divider to do like 241 2.5-4-4-8, or 133 divider 2-2-2-5??

Depends on if its AMD or Intel. AMD's :heart: Low Latency, Intel's :heart: High bandwidth.
 

Heckler 5th

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Originally posted by: Snakexor
i am trying to get "2gb" with 2x1gb sticks....

which would be faster:

my fsb is 280x9....would it be faster to run 1:1 3-3-3-8, use a 166 divider to do like 241 2.5-4-4-8, or 133 divider 2-2-2-5??
faster at what?
 

Heckler 5th

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in general, from what i've read about AMD64 CPU's, modern gaming performance is impacted more by tighter timings than bandwidth. extra bandwidth won't hurt of course, but you'd need to really get up there in MHz to outweigh the disadvantages of looser timings. just a rough approximation here but DDR500 3-4-4-1T is probably only marginally better-- in terms of FPS-- than DDR400 2-3-2-1T, if at all.

as far as i know, no 1GB DIMM can do 2-2-2.

here's the only article i've seen about this.
http://www.dfi-street.com/forum/showthread.php?t=27875

edit: if this seems contradictory to my previous post, sorry. i recommended the ballistix, and still do, because they do achieve such high bandwidth that their 3-3-3 performance is probably king right now. but i'd still look into that OCZ EB stuff. any1 know what chips it uses?
 

Goldorak

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Originally posted by: Heckler 5th
in general, from what i've read about AMD64 CPU's, modern gaming performance is impacted more by tighter timings than bandwidth. extra bandwidth won't hurt of course, but you'd need to really get up there in MHz to outweigh the disadvantages of looser timings. just a rough approximation here but DDR500 3-4-4-1T is probably only marginally better-- in terms of FPS-- than DDR400 2-3-2-1T, if at all.

as far as i know, no 1GB DIMM can do 2-2-2.

here's the only article i've seen about this.
http://www.dfi-street.com/forum/showthread.php?t=27875

edit: if this seems contradictory to my previous post, sorry. i recommended the ballistix, and still do, because they do achieve such high bandwidth that their 3-3-3 performance is probably king right now. but i'd still look into that OCZ EB stuff. any1 know what chips it uses?

I have the OCZ EB DDR PC-4000 2x1024MB Platinum sticks. I believe the chips are Infineon CE-6. Right now I'm running it at 2.5-3-2-7 DDR400. I'm planning to bump this to DDR500 soon. I don't believe I'll be able to keep these timings, but you never know.
 

virtualrain

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Originally posted by: Heckler 5th
in general, from what i've read about AMD64 CPU's, modern gaming performance is impacted more by tighter timings than bandwidth. extra bandwidth won't hurt of course, but you'd need to really get up there in MHz to outweigh the disadvantages of looser timings. just a rough approximation here but DDR500 3-4-4-1T is probably only marginally better-- in terms of FPS-- than DDR400 2-3-2-1T, if at all.

This is exactly correct. My OCZ PC-4000 runs marginally faster in benches and games at DDR520 3-4-3-8 than my old Platinum at DDR400 2-3-2-5.

You can trade bandwidth for timings without penalty and actually depending on the trade, you can gain performance.

The best thing to do is to max out your HTT to find the best performance for your CPU and then either find the RAM with the best timings that will run at either the 1:1 setting or if there is none that will run that fast, find the RAM with the tightest timings at the highest divider possible.