Need Suggestions on QUIET Power Supplies

Homerboy

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Hey all... it's time to quiet my machine down. It's just TOO damn noisey in my room, and the #1 culprit I have righ tnow is my power supply, so its time to replace it.
Any suggestions would be GREATLY appretiated. Quiet is key, but must support AMD XP and a pile of hardware (400W+)
 

Adul

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what pile of hardware?
more then likely unless you are running a dual proc system, a antec true 330 should suffice and it is fairly quiet.


i run on my poor 300 watt powersupply from antec
2 7200 RPM hard drives
1 dvd-rom
1 CD-RW
ti-4200
athlon 1500+ overclocked to 1900+
floppy
3 case fans with LEDs
no to mention dual nics, sound,and modem.

so like i said a true power 330 should suffice, true power 380 at most for your needs. :p
 

Muse

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Originally posted by: Homerboy
Hey all... it's time to quiet my machine down. It's just TOO damn noisey in my room, and the #1 culprit I have righ tnow is my power supply, so its time to replace it.
Any suggestions would be GREATLY appretiated. Quiet is key, but must support AMD XP and a pile of hardware (400W+)
Unless you have reason to believe otherwise, your CPU fan may be a big contributor to the noise.

 

John

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Originally posted by: Homerboy
Hey all... it's time to quiet my machine down. It's just TOO damn noisey in my room, and the #1 culprit I have righ tnow is my power supply, so its time to replace it.
Any suggestions would be GREATLY appretiated. Quiet is key, but must support AMD XP and a pile of hardware (400W+)

If the psu is working fine, there is no need to replace the entire unit, rather the 80mm fan that resides within. A quite 21db panaflo comes to mind....
 

Homerboy

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Yeah I was thinking of just doing the fan swap... is that safe? PS is just fine.

I know the #1 culprit is the PS. I stoped each fan (for a ashort time) and the PS fan is a MONSTER. VERY VERY loud compared to all the others.
 

jamison

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Seasonic are very quiet and sell at Newegg. A 300W Seasonic can power a typical high end system without trouble.
 

Muse

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Originally posted by: John
Originally posted by: Homerboy
Hey all... it's time to quiet my machine down. It's just TOO damn noisey in my room, and the #1 culprit I have righ tnow is my power supply, so its time to replace it.
Any suggestions would be GREATLY appretiated. Quiet is key, but must support AMD XP and a pile of hardware (400W+)

If the psu is working fine, there is no need to replace the entire unit, rather the 80mm fan that resides within. A quite 21db panaflo comes to mind....
I did exactly that with my cheapo PSU, and it's very quiet now. I also drilled myriad 3/8" holes in the plate at the bottom of the unit (removed the plate first) to facilitate real good airflow - just to make sure that the Panaflo (which pushes air at CFM = 24, IIRC) would cool it enough.

 

Jhhnn

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I'm personally not real eager to pay exoticpc $70 for a $30 psu with a $10 fan thrown into the mix.... but go ahead, if you want, the sparkle(fortron/source) units they use are good.. If you really think you need it, a 380w Antec trupower is very quiet, definite over kill, the Seasonics are supposedly good, and the Zalmans are definitely quiet and well built, beefy....

All of these share one common attribute- the internal heatsinks are quite large. Don't put a wimpy fan into a psu that depends on a noisy high output fan because of skimpy heatsinks- it won't last long..
 

Homerboy

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Jhhnn, you gotta click on his link though... look at how quiet his PC is... he's a freak!
 

Homerboy

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What about chipset coolers too?
I have a SOYO DRAGON+ and that little crappy fna on there is loud too :)

Oh and my GeForce3... and it gets kinda hot and humid here in Wisconsin sometimes... I guess I should put in a pool
 

jarsoffart

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Antec TruePower and Nexus PSU's are supposed to be really quiet. For more information about quiet components you can go to SilentPCReview. They have a list of recommended components. Their forums are also very informative.
 

Auric

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If you have a unit with two fans that otherwise is fine then it makes sense to just remove the 80mm and replace the 92mm with a Panaflo low-speed. A lot folks run their PSU's with just a Panaflo 80mm low-speed but the 92mm flows about 35% more air for the same noise or the same air for less noise depending on how much voltage is supplied. Use the PSU's thermal control if possible as it allows for even more quiet while maintaining a margin of safety over just fixing the voltage at 5 or 7V. Otherwise an external manual variable control like the $5 Zalman (5-11V) is an in-between option (not better than automatic but better than fixed).

If you are going to replace the unit then definitely rule out any lacking Active PFC and try to get one with one fan instead of two which by nature of the limited box size requires smaller heatsinks and other components which naturally require more cooling in the first place. It is self-defeating and contrary to efficiency and quiet (great for marketing though). Speaking of efficiency, that is one of the two primary benefits of PFC to the consumer (the other being reduced EMI/RFI) since it means lower electricity bills and generates less heat which is a byproduct of the power transformation and so again requires less cooling.

I agree with Jhhnn -in essence concentrate on getting a good quality unit. The fan is almost unimportant as it is easily replaced for a few dollars with one that is ideal for your setup. ExoticPC, Zalman, Nexus, Verax etc, all just use Sparkle/FSP with custom fans. Seasonic is different but clearly a cheaper design and their prices are not competitive. Seasonic and Antec both use graphs in their marketing to tout their thermal control compared to "typical" thermal control. However, I do not see any difference between this and Sparkle's literature except that they don't hype it. Antec also chooses not to offer PFC outside of Europe where it is required but instead prefer to contract to CWT for a couple extra dollars worth of external thermal fan control leads and independent 3 and 5V circuits which are of questionable value when modern systems draw the bulk of their power from the 12V line alone.

And that's all I know about that (well, not really but I have gone on enough) :)
 

NeilPeart

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For high-powered system, an Antec True430 PSU is probably the best hybrid of power and silence, as it provides plenty of stable power while maintaining very low noise levels. However, if your system doesn't have an insane amount of peripherals and isn't too power hungry, the quietest PSU I have ever used is the Zalman ZM300A-APF; it is so silen that my single Panaflo 80L1A (cooling a P4 2GHz with an Alpha PAL8942) is the loudest component in the system (on a side note: the Seagate Barracuda V in the system is even quieter than the Barracuda IV it replaced). To summarize: If you have a crazy SMP, SCSI/IDE RAID, multi-optical drive system, the go for the Antec True PSUs - you will not be disappointed; if you have a moderately fast system and seek the quietest working environment possible, get the Zalman ZM300A-APF. :cool:
 

Homerboy

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Ok newbie question here...
the repalcement fan for the powersupply I bought has 3 wires... the current PS fan has 2...
which one do I NOT use? :)
 

sundog29

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Originally posted by: Homerboy
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Any suggestions would be GREATLY appreciated. ... (400W+)

1. Don't buy a Vantec Stealth
2. If you disregard rule #1, then swap it for a Seasonic 400

I can vouche for both the Seasonic, it's quieter and its voltages are tighter than the Vantec 520, as well as for the SilentPC forums. I was so pleased with the Seasonic recommended there that I ordered one of the 14dB Silenx's Monday.

 

Homerboy

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Well I went with just a replacement fan for my existing PS... Ive had not a single complaint since day #1 (minus the noise factor)
Now I just need to know WTF wire to "exclude"