Need some help troubleshooting

Erydin

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Oct 16, 2006
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Wasn't sure where to put this.

I put together two watercooled systems about 9 months or so back. However one of the systems is having problems that I just can't track down. So unless some of you have some suggestions I am going to end up just having to replace one piece of hardware at a time until I get to the offending piece. On to the problem(s).

Below I will list the system specs. Here is the problem: The computer locks up completely in just about any game played. About 1 out of 3 or 1 out of 4 of the times I get a BSD. Some of the BSD list a kernel page error, most do not. Sometimes I get an error of 0x0000007 (these numbers in the paranthesis change everytime), sometimes it is a completely different number. Most times it just plain locks up and will do absolutely nothing and has to be forced down and rebooted.

I have completely wiped the drive and reloaded everything but that has not fixed things. I have tried going through my drivers, starting with older ones (that came with my graphics card for example) and updated to newer till I get current. None of these made any noticeable difference.

It runs through 3DMark06, Orthos, and Memtest without a flaw ever (even did some superpi runs). Not sure what other tests I can run now.

My second computer has a nearly identical set-up to this problem computer. I have swapped out RAM sticks into the good computer and I found that 2 of the 4 sticks would also lock up my good computer. So these two sticks are now sitting on my desk. The other two sticks however ran in the good computer just fine. Also odd to note that Memtest or Orthos never found a problem with any of the RAM no matter which computer it was in or whether it had all 4 sticks or just 2.

I did find that the bad computer's powersupply appeared to have short in it (I cringe to think this may have been the cause of everything and the damage it may have done but even if it did I still have to figure out to what extent).

The computer has locked up at desktop before but it does this rarely. One oddity though, when installing a program the computer hangs for a good 2-4 minutes and then starts installing. I have found that if I start trying to minimize the install folder or start trying to ctrl-alt-del to task manager to stop the install, it will lock up nearly everytime. It seems it gets caught into some kind of loop before installing and has to work itself out of it before it can start doing anything again. My good computer will just start installing immediately like it should.

It locks up in the various games I have tried after 1-5 minutes almost every single time. But there have been times it runs a game for an hour or two with no problems (I end up stop playing before it has a problem) but this is rare.

The system is OCed but I have tried putting it back to factory specs and many, many different OC profiles, but nothing changes the lockups or even the frequency of the lockups.

Also when looking at the temp through CoreTemp I have noticed the problem computer idles at about 42C where as the good computer idles at around 32C. But when pushing Orthos blend for a good long run, good computer pushes about 44C and problem computer only goes to around 47C.
System:

- E6600 C2D
- P5N32-E SLI Plus (650i chipset)
- Corsair C4 800Mhz (4 1g sticks, only two in now)
- BFG8800GTX
- Seasonic S12 600W powersupply
- Plextor DVD burner
- Western Digital Harddrive
- And bunches of WCing components
- WC parts are: Processor, Graphics Card, and NB.
- Running Windows Vista Home Premium

And in case anyone is wondering, the other system differs only in that the harddrive is made by a different company, the SB has an active cooler since I was going to do more OCing on it, has a different make DVD, has a Corsair 620HX PSU, and good computer has a full Windows VIsta Home Premium install where as bad computer has the upgrade from XP version.

Not sure what the problem is. I have doubts it is the RAM, but maybe. Could the powersupply be causing this many problems that are repeatable but still be putting out enough power to run good 3DMark06 score? I doubt it, but maybe. Is mobo having problems, or hell maybe I even scratched it in some odd way even though I was careful. Since I got the upgrade from XP rather than a full Windows Vista could this be having some type of freaky windows drivers problems? Or is my graphics card maybe fried but works most times? Again the repeatable nature within games had me doubting hardware and thinking more drivers initially, but now I just don't know anymore.

Any help/suggestions would be hugely appreciated

Erydin


Edit: Forgot to mention this, the short I found was in the 24pin to the motherboard.
 

NoelS

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Oct 5, 2007
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Erydin,

I'd suggest changing your power supplies out and see if that makes a difference on the bad" system. From the early part of your discussion, the first thing that came to mind was a power supply problem... but when you said, "I did find that the bad computer's power supply appeared to have short in it," I cringed also.

I know it will take some time to change the PSUs, but maybe if you have a spare one around you could try instead of taking the one out of your "good" computer?

Give it a try, let us know what happens...

Noel
 

Erydin

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Oct 16, 2006
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Power supply on order, should be her in a day or so. I will let you know what happens from here. Nice to hear you think that is the source of the probem... I'm just hoping it ends there :)


Erydin
 

NoelS

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Originally posted by: Erydin
Power supply on order, should be her in a day or so. I will let you know what happens from here. Nice to hear you think that is the source of the probem... I'm just hoping it ends there :)


Erydin

Sure hope that works for you...

Noel