Need some help, on quiting cigs..

[Heller]

i smoke about a pack and a half a day of marlboro lights, i enjoy smoking tobacco, i don't know if its because im addicted or actually enjoy the smoke, but reguardless, i had an upper GI done for what they though was an ulcer (it was not, thank god)and was told i have the lungs of a 90 year old, that really scared me...i have tried quitting twice before never making it past a half a day without going nuts.i tried the patch/gum combo last time and i was just dying for a smoke... i plan on buying an e cig that will suffice my need to smoke, the problem is, they range from $4.00 online to 100$locally. the $4 versions can be only gotten via Chinese export websites, and they don't sell just the refill's separately so im pretty much paying $4 for an throw away e cig or paying 100$ for ones locally that work with some sort of liquid and rechargeable battery... does anyone have experience on quitting the ecig way? any of you quit from it? which e cig did you use and did it literally feel like you were inhaling smoke? thats a big thing for me!... i want to be able to close my eyes and think its a real cig,and not waste money on some gimmick...

so ATOT hit me with your best shot, fire away...

 

[iamwiz82]

i had an upper GI done for what they though was an ulcer (it was not, thank god)and was told i have the lungs of a 90 year old, that really scared me...

Is that not enough?

 

[homebrew2ny]

Want to quit?

Stop smoking, in 24 hours it will be a minor task. In 3 days it will be a fleeting memory, and in 3 weeks it will be a disgusting habit you can not understand why you did it in the first place. Do not over think it, just do it and that's that.

 

[Heller]

Is that not enough?

you don't seem to understand, i overcame many addictions in my life the last few years and this was always my crutch,, all you could do in detox was smoke, when i wake up in the morning im dying for a smoke, when im taking a crap, i cant go unless i have a smoke first... I've already admitted to being a cig addict, the point of this thread is to help me, not put me down, thanks:whiste:


and say hi to "Lola" for me,

 

[GSquadron]

@home
its not like that with all the people

@heller
You are not addicted. Your body, unfortunately doesn't produce anymore nicotine.
I stopped smoking after smoking 2 packs a day and it was going to become even more than that.
Until....

 

[Sluggo]

i have the lungs of a 90 year old

Sounds like BS to me.

I smoked a shitload, for 30 years, so I must have the lungs of a 750 year old man.

 

[JulesMaximus]

How old are you and how long have you been smoking?

It gets significantly more difficult to quit the longer you've been smoking.

Cold turkey is the way to go... just do it.

 

[Heller]

Sounds like BS to me.

I smoked a shitload, for 30 years, so I must have the lungs of a 750 year old man.

i beleive him, i new somthing was not right with my lungs, the year before i got nomoania and was sent to the hospital. in the ER my oxygen level was 72, they saw that rushed me through the hospital and quickly put my on oxygen, i stayed in the icu for a week, and in the hospital for an additional 10 days, they too advised me to quit smoking but i was still sneaking out of my room making them bring the iv with me and the pole it rolls with, outside 20 feet away from the entrance, where you could legally smoke..

 

[Heller]

How old are you and how long have you been smoking?

It gets significantly more difficult to quit the longer you've been smoking.

Cold turkey is the way to go... just do it.

I'll be 22 on may 6th, i've been smoking since 16 years old.

 

[Dr. Detroit]

At 30 cigarettes a day and figure you are sleeping 8hrs a day - Thats a cigarette every 30-minutes.

You should start slow and reduce your nicotine addiction by having goals like cutting down to a pack a day within 2-weeks. Then focus on one per hour to get to 15 a day after a month or so. Its going to take time, have some will-power and find something to occupy your time with instead of smoking.

A recent study said to not smoke just after waking up - wait at least 30minutes.

 

[phucheneh]

I don't quite get the people who say 'just quit, you'll be fine soon enough.'

Eh...on the first day or two, you might murder someone else and/or yourself. Best to just avoid that withdrawal shit.

I smoke ~2 packs a week, and I still get kinda [more] miserable without smoking all day, and then kinda-sorta briefly high when I finally get a cigarette. To me, that seems like withdrawal that is strong enough to not fuck around with.

If I decided I had to quit, I'd probably put it on like a one month timeline. I'd set an initial maximum of like five a day, gradually tapering down to a smoke a day for the last week or so.

But I'm weird. I'd be much more likely to have the odd smoke afterwards, but without really 'relapsing.' To me, it's just all about getting the physical 'need' out of my system.

 

[Heller]

At 30 cigarettes a day and figure you are sleeping 8hrs a day - Thats a cigarette every 30-minutes.

You should start slow and reduce your nicotine addiction by having goals like cutting down to a pack a day within 2-weeks. Then focus on one per hour to get to 15 a day after a month or so. Its going to take time, have some will-power and find something to occupy your time with instead of smoking.

A recent study said to not smoke just after waking up - wait at least 30minutes.

do you have any idea what kind of torture that is? that's like saying i cant have one after dinner... in the morning when i first wake up i actually have 2 cigs,one after another, then i feel fulfilled. I'd say that in the morning, its probably the hardest moment, in the whole day...

 

[OutHouse]

First you and only you must really really want to quit. if you dont have that resolve you will not succeed.

i quit cold turkey. like you i loved smoking but hated being addicted to it. For me i let a bunch of things add up to make me more empowered to just say no. my ammo was,
1. i hated being a slave. example i would forget my badge for work, my wallet or cell but NEVER would forget my stupid cigs.
2. its a really nasty thing to do to ones body.
3. its really expensive now. that shit adds up. felt like i was taking money away from my family when i bought a new pack or carton for 55 fucking dollars. may as well just light a 50 dollar bill on fire and watch it burn.
4. tired of hacking up lung butter in the morning.
5. got really mad about being a drug addict in front of my family.

I woke up one morning in Oct and decided that today was the day, Thats it, im done with it. period end of story. I used those tools to make it happen. its going on 3 years now and i have not had one smoke. Do i crave it yes, do i want to smoke yes. when i see the marlboro lights packs (yes my brand as well) at the gas station i want to buy a pack. but NO damn it im not doing it and that is what i tell myself. the hardest part for me was driving. I LOVED SMOKING WHILE DRIVING, and not being able to light up while stuck in traffic was murder. Also, Not having my morning smoke with my morning coffee was horrendous to overcome. But i kept telling myself, i don't need it, i don't need it, i will live without sucking that poison into my body. find something to take my mind off it.

for me the cravings will always be there, they are just memories of useing smoking to decomress driving home or sitting on the deck with a nice Sara (wine) and a smoke watching the sunset. kinda like fat chicks and chocloate are firends. well me and cig were friends.

I gained like 15-18 pounds but fuck it i dont give a shit. im a non-smoker now, not burning up my hard earned money

now, when i walk through smoke, like the smoke shack at work i find the smell really foul and yes I mentally look down on the smokers.

find your ammo its different for everybody and let it empower you to quit.

 

[RocksteadyDotNet]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Varenicline

Works a treat apparently.

 

[Zorkorist]

Not one puff ever... NOPE!

Works for me, because I can not take one puff ever.

You decide, if you can take a puff ever, again, without suffering all the consequences.,

NOPE!

Done with it.

-John

 

[Edgy]

Heller,

Take it from someone who smoked a pack a day for almost 20 years and then was able to quit via electronic cigarette:

There is NO ecig that will adequately simulate analog cigarettes... PERIOD!

Put it simply ecig does NOT equal to regular cigs - NEVER.

If you go into purchasing ecigs with expectations that there is such a thing, you'll just be throwing your money away and fail.

ecigs are basically alternative nicotine delivery system (like a nicotine patch) but one that more closely simulates the habitual inhaling action of regular cigarettes but without the tar.

As for advice, I can only speak of my personal experience - it took ALOT of research time, patience, and some investment (money, although definitely not as much as buying regular cigs at pack a day).

Probably the only place necessary for all ecig related research:

http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/forum/

I started myself with an 801-D with cartomizer kit ($40) but was lucky enough to get sound advice from other ecig users and from the forum and quickly graduated to something that works for me - a custom made variable voltage 501 kit ($50) + boge cartomizers ($1-$2 per count) + carto tank ($10) + primarily menthol/mint e-liquid at 18mg nicotine level ($15 per 50ml premade). Important thing here is that what works can be vastly DIFFERENT for everyone.

Besides the initial investment equipment listed above - the consumable parts are cartomizers and e-liquids which typically costs me around $150 - $200 total per year of fairly heavy vaping which equals my cost of buying 4 cartons of regular cigarettes which typically lasted 1 1/2 - 2 months = SAVINGS.

One can also learn to create their own e-liquids which will bring the costs down significantly which I haven't dabbled into yet.

One word of caution - beware of gimmicks where they sell you a kit and cartridges (which are typically cartomizers pre-filled with e-liquids of "tobacco" flavor). They typically make money off selling you cartridge refills which usually costs anywhere from 3-10 times more than buying and filling your own cartomizers.

But as anything that is a tool designed to help remove addictions - the most important thing is your mindset and dedication to quit. Without this, there's nothing that will help.

Do alot of research and do more research and hopefully you'll succeed in quitting. I do strongly suggest visiting a B&M ecig shop (shop owners are almost all experienced past smokers and helpful - they might even let you try some out) to gain knowledge and experience what's available.

It's been 3 years and 2 months since I smoked my last cigarette and I hope you find your way to quitting too via ecig or other methods which might be right for you.

 

[Zorkorist]

e-cigs are simply a nicotine delivery system...

Like the gum, etc...

it doesn't help you stop smoking.

NOPE!

Not One Puff Ever!

-John

 

[phucheneh]

Not one puff ever... NOPE!

Works for me, because I can not take one puff ever.

You decide, if you can take a puff ever, again, without suffering all the consequences.,

NOPE!

Done with it.

-John

Your approach != all aproaches.

People are different. Some people do better with it when they don't consider it to be so 'life and death' and just try to moderate (especially early on).

...just because someone has given up alcohol doesn't mean they're picking up AA chips.

 

[Zorkorist]

I've done it... after 33 years of smoking.

Actually, I think about smoking, every day.

NOPE!

-John

 

[phucheneh]

e-cigs are simply a nicotine delivery system...

Like the gum, etc...

it doesn't help you stop smoking.

NOPE!

Not One Puff Ever!

-John

...and now you're just pissing me off. I know a shit ton of people that have fully quit or are in the process of 'quitting' with the e-cigs. Most people who are really TRYING and invest a bit in them have better luck. Just picking up a cheap one from the gas station, then throwing it out ('cause it tastes like dick-coated ass with shit filling) and going back to a pack is not really empirical evidence.

How do I know? I tried one of the cheap ones. And I threw it out because it tasted like the mentioned dick-coated ass with shit filling. The people who smoke the better one agree that the cheapies are awful, so I'm also inclided to believe that the higher-end ones are also much more tolerable.

 

[Zorkorist]

Now you are making me think you are an e-cig *** .

Definitely too interested in *******, and ignoring true stories.


-John

Just stay out of this thread. You contribute nothing.The only one interested in those words is you.

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[Zorkorist]

Quitting smoking, takes internal fortitude.

-John

 

[Howard]

Quitting smoking, takes internal fortitude.

-John

So does tolerating people like you.

 

[Edgy]

Reason why research is heavily recommended for ecig is because the success or failure of ecig system relies heavily on how ecig flavor "taste" to the user.

Whether the flavor in question is tobacco or peanut butter cookies (and yes, that is one of the hundreds available flavors out there), the taste has to be acceptable (preferably pleasant) to the user for the user to keep to the system.

It also has to be healthy and definitely NOT harmful so I would definitely opt to use trusted and tested vendors to source these things, especially e-liquids.

Pre-filled cartridge services can be convenient but costs significantly more in the long run and there are no flexible options regarding different flavors and alternate equipment.

 

[OutHouse]

how bad are the e-cigs on the body?