Recently graduated and my entire life for the most part has been in southern california. Thus I've spent most of high school and college in shorts, t or polo shirt and sandals. I've worked for the for the accounting dept at school and the computer science dept but both were "work study" and right after my classes so they didn't mind the whole shorts and polo shirt thing. Starting in Sept. I will be working in a consulting firm I need some advice on dressing professionally. As far as I've seen it's the usual with slacks/dress shirt/tie deal. To compound the problem is the fact that I'm colorblind (just red/green blue/purple) and well I'm a guy so my fashion sense is worthless. As far as I know beige goes with almost anything and so does white but I'm unsure what design my ties should be. Anyways I need some advice/links with some detailed explainations as to what shoes go with what socks/ties etc. My roomates used to subscribe to GQ and Men's Health so I'll browse that and see if I can pick up anything. Also I need to know the basic no no's of fashion etc. thx in advance
need some fashion advice from the ladies (or the few fashion swave guys out there) for my first real work environment
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I know quite a few people who think anything asides from Jeans, T-shirts, and sneakers qualifies as dress clothes. So, don't wear A+F Cargo Pants and Dr. Martens boots with a dress shirt and a blazer (very, very common with guys under 20; they look ridiculous).
Anyways I need some advice/links with some detailed explainations as to what shoes go with what socks/ties etc.
Uhhh... That's going a little *too* far. Any no frills black or brown shoes will do. And nobody really notices your socks, so don't spend too much money in that department.
GQ and Men's Health
Those magazines will tell you how to dress to a party, not to a consulting firm.
As far as I know beige goes with almost anything and so does white but I'm unsure what design my ties should be
I don't know where you got the "beige goes with almost anything" from. I can guarantee that you won't be seeing any people wearing beige at your place of work. For your basic attire, get lots of plain white shirts, and some black - or perhaps Navy - suits. If you really feel the need to impress, get some three piece suits, but that might be overkill for hot SoCal weather. As for the ties, avoid stuff with logos, cartoon characters, pop culture references, etc. as they come off as really tacky. Consulting firms are pretty conservative. For ties, just use common sense.
Well, I hope this helps.
Anyways I need some advice/links with some detailed explainations as to what shoes go with what socks/ties etc.
Uhhh... That's going a little *too* far. Any no frills black or brown shoes will do. And nobody really notices your socks, so don't spend too much money in that department.
GQ and Men's Health
Those magazines will tell you how to dress to a party, not to a consulting firm.
As far as I know beige goes with almost anything and so does white but I'm unsure what design my ties should be
I don't know where you got the "beige goes with almost anything" from. I can guarantee that you won't be seeing any people wearing beige at your place of work. For your basic attire, get lots of plain white shirts, and some black - or perhaps Navy - suits. If you really feel the need to impress, get some three piece suits, but that might be overkill for hot SoCal weather. As for the ties, avoid stuff with logos, cartoon characters, pop culture references, etc. as they come off as really tacky. Consulting firms are pretty conservative. For ties, just use common sense.
Well, I hope this helps.
khaki is your friend....use it alot...khaki pants are comfy and u can have any tie u want to go with it, regardless of color. if you wear black or blue pants, just make sure u don't wear a tie of the opposite color base - i.e., don't wear a blue tie w/ black pants. and don't wear a blue shirt w/ black pants either. otherwise, have some fun, make your own style a bit - i prefer fun ties that have either weird designs or characters on them. good ice breaker or conversation starter w/ people. and just remember, no white socks
Go to a "NICE" mens store and explain your visual condition to the staff (nice men's stores are your friends, you pay more but its for the SERVICE you get). Get Arrow shirts and Dockers pants, let them fix you up with accessories.
Dress to the "next" level at work (i.e., dress like your supervisor and people of his ilk).
While no one may comment directly to you about your appearance, it WILL be noticed.
Dress to the "next" level at work (i.e., dress like your supervisor and people of his ilk).
While no one may comment directly to you about your appearance, it WILL be noticed.
Beige does go with almost anything, but it looks best with white, black or navy blue. As for ties, just pick small prints or stripes, or better yet go for solid colors. No no's are do not combine patterns, and do not "overdress", ie lots of jewelry or flashy looking clothes. Simple is the best way to go. Stick to navy blue, beige, black and white, those are the basic colors that go good together.
It also depends upon what level of formality your job requires, which you didn't specify. If you're going to be representing your company at other firms a lot, you'll need suits, and lots of them. If you'll be staying mainly within your own office/cubicle, there's no real need to wear a suit to work everyday, a properly coordinated combination of shirt, slacks, and tie will do nicely. A blue shirt with light brown slacks always works.
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A word of advice. 95% of the time, cheap suits look cheap. If you're gonna spend the money on suits, but good quality ones. And yes they get very expensive. If you can't afford it, just do the dress pants, dress shirts, and tie thing, and get a couple of good quality blazers.
Oh, yeah, and visit Montreal for a few days. Then you'll know what looks good. Best dressed people in North America. Parts of New York come close though.
Oh, yeah, and visit Montreal for a few days. Then you'll know what looks good.
Best dressed people in North America. Parts of New York come close though.If you go to a men's fine clothing store and explain your situation to the salesman, he should help you out quite a bit. That's what they get payed to do...make kids like you look like execs. Trust me, this will save you a lot of time and give you a free, professional opinion in a situation where you can actually see the combinations the salesman is talking about. And no one says that you have to buy the stuff if it's too expensive there Just let the guy go through his lesson, then say, "Thank you. I appreciate your patience with me and I'm sure we will be doing business in the near future." Then ask the guy for his card. It works great! He won't get mad at you for not purchasing, and he'll be convinced you'll refer friends to him. Everyone wins
But, seriously, try it. That way you can see what goes with what in the professional dress world. Good luck in your new job!
Trust me, this will save you a lot of time and give you a free, professional opinion in a situation where you can actually see the combinations the salesman is talking about. And no one says that you have to buy the stuff if it's too expensive there Just let the guy go through his lesson, then say, "Thank you. I appreciate your patience with me and I'm sure we will be doing business in the near future." Then ask the guy for his card. It works great! He won't get mad at you for not purchasing, and he'll be convinced you'll refer friends to him. Everyone wins But, seriously, try it. That way you can see what goes with what in the professional dress world. Good luck in your new job!
By well-tailored clothes, doesn't matter what color or color scheme. You're color-blind. The American with Disabilites Act will cover you if your employer complains. :Q
don't outdress the bosses though. no 3 piece suits or double breasted (which i still find a strange des) suits... no tuxedoes (tailed or other wise). and non of that thing with the pastels and the frilly shirts... and definitely, no tanks or muscle ts. and keep the speedo out of conversations.
it really depends on the environment. if you come in wearing a suit, and everyone is in jeans... duh.
Do regis, dress in tones. I actually have been doing that for years. but with a pants, tshirt, shirt (unbuttoned or otherwise) outfit.
i have not worn jeans since elementary school, and i have only recently been wearing those cotton khakis or dockers or whatever... i used to wear mostly 100% wool, or wool blends, dress pants. black never dies. Go with shades of gray too. that's what i do. of course i have 5 pairs of off white (different shades and styled cuffs) cotton pants which i call fancy jeans I have a navy blue pair dress pants.
as for ties, go with solid colors, and not that patterned if you want. no mickey mouse ties unless you want to make a statement (don't ask).
and shirts, white or a pastel or what not. that matches the pants (black matches pastels) and tie.
it really depends on the environment. if you come in wearing a suit, and everyone is in jeans... duh.
Do regis, dress in tones. I actually have been doing that for years. but with a pants, tshirt, shirt (unbuttoned or otherwise) outfit.
i have not worn jeans since elementary school, and i have only recently been wearing those cotton khakis or dockers or whatever... i used to wear mostly 100% wool, or wool blends, dress pants. black never dies. Go with shades of gray too. that's what i do. of course i have 5 pairs of off white (different shades and styled cuffs) cotton pants which i call fancy jeans
I have a navy blue pair dress pants.as for ties, go with solid colors, and not that patterned if you want. no mickey mouse ties unless you want to make a statement (don't ask).
and shirts, white or a pastel or what not. that matches the pants (black matches pastels) and tie.
if you don't wear a tie, get one of those collarless shirts. i have a black one and a white one.
salesmen do help, though i have never asked one for it...
salesmen do help, though i have never asked one for it...
thx for advice I'll try one of the higher end shops. Anyone know of good one in southern cal. area. Hehe UG very funny . Yeah I'll claim disability if I'm poorly coordinated. thx again I know quality clothing is going to cost a considerable amount and I'm not going to be wearing a suit 5 times a week. I think 2-3 good suits will be suffice for me. I'm hoping this will cost less than $1200. Is this reasonable? I know some of them cost more than $1200 per suit but I'm hardly in position to go that route. thx
. Yeah I'll claim disability if I'm poorly coordinated. thx again I know quality clothing is going to cost a considerable amount and I'm not going to be wearing a suit 5 times a week. I think 2-3 good suits will be suffice for me. I'm hoping this will cost less than $1200. Is this reasonable? I know some of them cost more than $1200 per suit but I'm hardly in position to go that route. thx Listen to CyberSax, he knows what he is talking about. NEVER take business fashion advice from a woman. She will dress you in what is appealing to her as a female, and this will most certainly not be what impresses the invariably male boss who will be deciding your future.
It is ALWAYS better to be more well dressed, than less well dressed than those around you. Concerns about being better dressed than your boss are pure BS.
If you can find it, buy and read a copy of Dress for Success. It is a timeless classic written specifically for the business world.
Russ, NCNE
It is ALWAYS better to be more well dressed, than less well dressed than those around you. Concerns about being better dressed than your boss are pure BS.
If you can find it, buy and read a copy of Dress for Success. It is a timeless classic written specifically for the business world.
Russ, NCNE
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