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I don't understand that at all...
I looked at the CDT "CL-61A" and they look like a good deal...lotsa praise too... But that's a component system, which, from what I understood, includes two 6.5" speakers for the doors and two small speakers (tweeters, is it?) for above the dashboard. What do I need to get for the back? Also, I'm still unclear on how many amps I'll need for the CDT CL-61A + two rear speakers + sub. Also, how many subs do I need, one or two?
one sub is plenty (dont take my sig as an example). rear fil (rear speakers) are not necessary. music comes from in front of you, very few songs utilize surround. if you get the component speakers + sub, you will need 2 amps.
alpine is known to offer better, plus everyone runs pioneer, and its a nice h/u (8500) but alpin has its own unique looks too. alpoine is up there with eclipse in terms of sq.
yes, midrange speakers, and a tweeter, and passive crossovers.
set your component amp at a level w/ a hpf. and lpf the sub (high pass filter, low pass filter)
and you should be good.
MIKE
alpine is known to offer better, plus everyone runs pioneer, and its a nice h/u (8500) but alpin has its own unique looks too. alpoine is up there with eclipse in terms of sq.
yes, midrange speakers, and a tweeter, and passive crossovers.
set your component amp at a level w/ a hpf. and lpf the sub (high pass filter, low pass filter)
and you should be good.
MIKE
thezeb had the 800d for that price. On sale.
Yeah, the ED sub would be cheaper, but I'll bet ya bottom dollar it wont TOUCH the Stereo Integrity. The Magnum is usually compared along the lines of ED A's and Brahma's.
As for HU's....Once an Eclipse user, always an Eclipse user. Hence my recommending Eclipse. And you wont find me recommending anything else for HU's.
Yeah, the ED sub would be cheaper, but I'll bet ya bottom dollar it wont TOUCH the Stereo Integrity. The Magnum is usually compared along the lines of ED A's and Brahma's.
As for HU's....Once an Eclipse user, always an Eclipse user. Hence my recommending Eclipse. And you wont find me recommending anything else for HU's.
So, two speakers [on the doors] are enough to put out clear and loud sound? It seems like with them being on the doors, it would produce a lot of unwanted vibration and also, do I really want my only speakers to be on the doors (simply from a positioning viewpoint...shouldn't they be a little higher up)?
Shockwave,
WTF is Eclipse? Is it Clarion? I've been looking and can't find anything under Eclipse...
Shockwave,
WTF is Eclipse? Is it Clarion? I've been looking and can't find anything under Eclipse...
you will not find eclipse online, only way to get the theft package is to have an authorized dealer install it (some will just connect one wire and say your good). eclipse is excellent, but the only mp3 player they have is their lowest model. unless you want to pay 400$ for their commander.
well you could build kicks, but in the door is fine.
kicks go down by ur feet, fiberglass molded to the contours of the floor, and you put the tweets and mids in it, or just the mids, and build dash pods for the tweets.
MIKE
well you could build kicks, but in the door is fine.
kicks go down by ur feet, fiberglass molded to the contours of the floor, and you put the tweets and mids in it, or just the mids, and build dash pods for the tweets.
MIKE
alkemyst
No Lifer
SQ issues are really not issues for the average guy buying any of the top manufacturers decks...in general SQ is the obscure brands then Eclipse and then Alpine in many peoples rankings. I like my Kenwood Exc. 858 though.
For amps you need 2 channels for the front separates, 2 channels if you want rear speakers and 1 channel for the sub (many two channel amps are bridgeable to 1)....now I would avoid a 5 channel single amp unless it can be converted to a 2 channel amp .... they tend to run hotter than separate amps, end up costing the same really, and limit your upgrading.
Now as far as having rear speakers or not....it will sound 'wierd' at first without them.....however any real stereo system runs of two speakers for music any concert the music comes from the front only, etc....you will need good speakers to pull it off and a decent about of power (again 50W is more than enough, and almost any set of components with a 6.5 woofer would be plenty).
With tint you have illegal and legal levels. Legal is easy to see into (darkness does not give the protection from the sun, the tint itself does that) and doesn't provide much privacy. I went 1 level illegal, I think about 20%, 5% limo is just too dark to drive with aggressively if needed...plus unless you are installing rear lights your rearview mirror is impossible to use at night backing up....you have to roll down the windows and use the side mirrors.
If you get illegal tint also you usually have to pay cash and get no warranty other than say in a week or two if problems rise up.
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For amps you need 2 channels for the front separates, 2 channels if you want rear speakers and 1 channel for the sub (many two channel amps are bridgeable to 1)....now I would avoid a 5 channel single amp unless it can be converted to a 2 channel amp .... they tend to run hotter than separate amps, end up costing the same really, and limit your upgrading.
Now as far as having rear speakers or not....it will sound 'wierd' at first without them.....however any real stereo system runs of two speakers for music any concert the music comes from the front only, etc....you will need good speakers to pull it off and a decent about of power (again 50W is more than enough, and almost any set of components with a 6.5 woofer would be plenty).
With tint you have illegal and legal levels. Legal is easy to see into (darkness does not give the protection from the sun, the tint itself does that) and doesn't provide much privacy. I went 1 level illegal, I think about 20%, 5% limo is just too dark to drive with aggressively if needed...plus unless you are installing rear lights your rearview mirror is impossible to use at night backing up....you have to roll down the windows and use the side mirrors.
If you get illegal tint also you usually have to pay cash and get no warranty other than say in a week or two if problems rise up.
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Thanks, alkemyst. Any idea what would be a good place to get tints? Should I do it the Nissan dealer or elsewhere?
Mike,
Do you know if the Pioneer HU has a built-in amp? If the HU I decide to get doesn't have an internal amp, though, I'll need a third amp, right? Also, any suggestions on rear speakers and a separate amp for them? What makes an amp good, anyway?
Mike,
Do you know if the Pioneer HU has a built-in amp? If the HU I decide to get doesn't have an internal amp, though, I'll need a third amp, right? Also, any suggestions on rear speakers and a separate amp for them? What makes an amp good, anyway?
Eclipse
You can only get Eclipse from stores, not online. The theft warrenty applies to every deck, and nothing special needs to be done to the deck other then program a key CD, which is used to unlock the deck in the event power is disconnected from the deck.
Rear fill sucks, I hate it.
Speakers in the door will be fine, although you might want to put some dampening in the doors. You get out what you put in, the more work you do the better they will sound and the better the midbass will be. A simple drop in replacement will sound alright, but you MIGHT have issues with buzzing, vibration and a slight lack of midbass. I wouldnt run more then 2 amps, a sub amp and a mid/high amp. So, if you want rear speakers get a 4 channel amp. Multi amp system get to be a PITA with install.
You can only get Eclipse from stores, not online. The theft warrenty applies to every deck, and nothing special needs to be done to the deck other then program a key CD, which is used to unlock the deck in the event power is disconnected from the deck.
Rear fill sucks, I hate it.
Speakers in the door will be fine, although you might want to put some dampening in the doors. You get out what you put in, the more work you do the better they will sound and the better the midbass will be. A simple drop in replacement will sound alright, but you MIGHT have issues with buzzing, vibration and a slight lack of midbass. I wouldnt run more then 2 amps, a sub amp and a mid/high amp. So, if you want rear speakers get a 4 channel amp. Multi amp system get to be a PITA with install.
well, you could ge a 4 channel amp, and then you would only need 2 amps.
shockwave is right.
um what makes an amp good or bad is hard to say w/o knowing the amp. avionixx @ www.avionixxusa.com are good, us acoustics, there are many many good amps out there, but then there are the really crappy ones too.
as for the sub, the O series is basically an A, with less power handling capabilities, it goes super low, and sound super tight. and i dont think he needs a 250$ sub.
MIKE
shockwave is right.
um what makes an amp good or bad is hard to say w/o knowing the amp. avionixx @ www.avionixxusa.com are good, us acoustics, there are many many good amps out there, but then there are the really crappy ones too.
as for the sub, the O series is basically an A, with less power handling capabilities, it goes super low, and sound super tight. and i dont think he needs a 250$ sub.
MIKE
The Pioneer 8500 has an internal amp rated @ 4x50 watts. In my Taurus, I had the "premium audio" option from the factory, which was 6 speakers + weak 80 watt amp (I think) + 6 disc changer. The speakers themselves are actually pretty good for stock speakers so I kept them. However I bypassed the factory amp and changer, so I'm running my stock speakers right off the HU's amp and the music sounds great even at loud volumes.
However you obviously need a more powerful external amp if you are running really powerful speakers and subs.
alkemyst
No Lifer
dealerships usually farm out their tint work....either way the dealership usually is spot-on....they don't chance crappy tint jobs. My buddy worked for Ford so I asked him who they use for their new car installs. His dealership only tints the new cars, it doesn't offer the service.
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