Need some advice with a GPU I'm getting.

[APAV]

Hey guys and gals.

Here is my computer, HP Pavilion M8300F(GX611AA) Athlon 64 X2 6000+ 3GB DDR2 640GB NVIDIA GeForce 8500GT Windows Vista Home Premium: My GPU is an 8500GT, not a 6150 SE

http://c1.neweggimages.com/New...mage/83-107-513-11.jpg

Here is the graphics card I am replacing it with:
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My room gets no cross breeze or draft, so it gets very hot fast. I'm think about getting the Arctic Cooling Unit, Accelero S1 to help it a bit. Do you think both(if the S1 can't fit, its ok) will fit in there fine and lower the temp hopefully? And extra measures/steps I should take?

Also, is there any other hardware I need to replace to run this? Like my stock psu, do I need to replace that? And what would you recommend if yes?

And finally, I would really like to know if there is a good card out there that all I need to do is put it in and it will work fine. No additional parts needed. I really don't like doing all of this. I don't like messing with inside my pc, although I know its second nature to most of you guys.

Thx for the help!!!

 

[Zap]

Welcome to the forums, APAV.

Your graphics card produces the same amount of heat whether you have the stock or aftermarket cooler on it. If the cooler keeps your graphics card at a lower temperature, that means the heat produced by your graphics card is now heating up your room.

The only way to have lower ROOM temperatures is to run lesser hardware, OR turn off your computer, OR use a fan in your window or door.

As for power supply, yes your stock unit will not be able to run it, so you'll need a new PSU. The new card takes two 6 pin PCI Express power plugs, so keep that in mind when shopping for that new PSU. Most likely you'll be shopping for something 500W and up to get that feature.

If you don't like messing with your own PC, then you should find someone to do it for you. Will cost you a bit extra, but can be as little as lunch and sodas if it is a friend of yours who lives near you, or some extra cash if it is someone who does it for a living.

If you can swap the card and install drivers yourself, but don't want to hassle with replacing the power supply (and all that wiring) then you need to aim lower... for ATI a Radeon 4670 and for NVIDIA a GeForce 9500 GT with GDDR3 (not the DDR2 versions). Before buying make sure the card does not need additional power. For instance, most of the 9500 GT does not, but some do.

 

[APAV]

Thanks for the reply Zap. Yes I a getting a friend of mine to do it for free. But he recommended this graphics card instead, which I think I will buy:

http://www.newegg.com/Product/...x?Item=N82E16814129112

He also reccomeded this PSU:

http://www.newegg.com/Product/...x?Item=N82E16817139003

I think that is a pretty good combo, after seeing that GPU only needs 1x6 pin connector.

 

[WaitingForNehalem]

Get this one because it's cheaper and uses a non-reference cooler.

Graphics Card

I have this power supply and it works great. It gives you 150 more watts with 2 PCI-E 6 pin for the same price.

PSU

 

[mpilchfamily]

Ok so you have a problem with your room temps due to the PC. Yet you want to upgrade the video card to one that will produce more heat. Which would require a larger PSU that would output even more heat. Just wondering what you are really trying to acheive. A cooler room or more performance.

 

[APAV]

No, my room temps problem is not due to the pc. Its due to having my xbox on for more than hour in my room. I'd imagine my computer will only make it worse, thats why I'm getting a fan/ac. I'm moving my xbox to a cooler room so its only the pc heat. Problem solved. Even though there s alot of heat getting generated this is the best counter I can do. And waiting why is that psu so cheap for its features?

 

[Denithor]

Just a good deal after the rebate on the OCZ powersupply, go for it.

 

[WaitingForNehalem]

Originally posted by: APAV
No, my room temps problem is not due to the pc. Its due to having my xbox on for more than hour in my room. I'd imagine my computer will only make it worse, thats why I'm getting a fan/ac. I'm moving my xbox to a cooler room so its only the pc heat. Problem solved. Even though there s alot of heat getting generated this is the best counter I can do. And waiting why is that psu so cheap for its features?

It has a $30 rebate. Use this code: EMCAKCDAC to make it $38 shipped.

 

[APAV]

Originally posted by: WaitingForNehalem
Get this one because it's cheaper and uses a non-reference cooler.

Graphics Card

I have this power supply and it works great. It gives you 150 more watts with 2 PCI-E 6 pin for the same price.

PSU

Hi care to explain in more detail why those two are better than the ones I chose ? On the GPU you recommended the fan is huge, I'm not sure it'll fit because the drive cage is right there. I also heard there are many problems with OCZ's. I dunno if I want to risk it.

EDIT: Also my computer has 3 pciE clots right? The company says one occupied and two available but I didn't see them when I looked in my case.

 

[WaitingForNehalem]

Originally posted by: APAV

Originally posted by: WaitingForNehalem
Get this one because it's cheaper and uses a non-reference cooler.

Graphics Card

I have this power supply and it works great. It gives you 150 more watts with 2 PCI-E 6 pin for the same price.

PSU

Hi care to explain in more detail why those two are better than the ones I chose ? On the GPU you recommended the fan is huge, I'm not sure it'll fit because the drive cage is right there. I also heard there are many problems with OCZ's. I dunno if I want to risk it.

EDIT: Also my computer has 3 pciE clots right? The company says one occupied and two available but I didn't see them when I looked in my case.

Look man, it's your choice. Go with what you want. When installed, the GPU with the fan face down. I don't know where you heard there are problems with OCZ, but they make some of the best PSU's. I am using that same PSU right now. The PSU I picked is $38, 150 more watts, and has 2 PCI-E 6 pin. Also, with the 48xx series a non-reference fan is smart. Also your computer has 1 PCI-E and 2 PCI slots.

 

[myocardia]

Originally posted by: WaitingForNehalem
I don't know where you heard there are problems with OCZ, but they make some of the best PSU's.

No, they definitely don't. The GameXStream's have the highest ripple I've ever seen in any PSU that costs more than $20-25. A good PSU has nearly no ripple at all.

 

[APAV]

Originally posted by: WaitingForNehalem

Originally posted by: APAV

Originally posted by: WaitingForNehalem
Get this one because it's cheaper and uses a non-reference cooler.

Graphics Card

I have this power supply and it works great. It gives you 150 more watts with 2 PCI-E 6 pin for the same price.

PSU

Hi care to explain in more detail why those two are better than the ones I chose ? On the GPU you recommended the fan is huge, I'm not sure it'll fit because the drive cage is right there. I also heard there are many problems with OCZ's. I dunno if I want to risk it.

EDIT: Also my computer has 3 pciE clots right? The company says one occupied and two available but I didn't see them when I looked in my case.

Look man, it's your choice. Go with what you want. When installed, the GPU with the fan face down. I don't know where you heard there are problems with OCZ, but they make some of the best PSU's. I am using that same PSU right now. The PSU I picked is $38, 150 more watts, and has 2 PCI-E 6 pin. Also, with the 48xx series a non-reference fan is smart. Also your computer has 1 PCI-E and 2 PCI slots.

Ok I understand and for that card I only need 1 PCI-E slot and one PCI slot for cooling. Also why would I need two PCI-E 6 pin. If I got it right, I only need one(with the converter that comes in the box.)