Need some advice for my GF

[Nocturnal]

My gf recently got hired full-time as an accounting clerk. She has roughly five months under her belt at this new place. These past previous months she has been part-time. She just received a phone call today from a lady she interned for. She said there is a job opening that will pay roughly 30k starting plus full benefits. The lady is pretty certain that my GF can get the job. My GF has no idea on what to do. She doesn't know if it's ethically right to just go and try for a higher paying job and just quit or what.

Can anyone give some ethically sound advice?

Thanks!

 

[InverseOfNeo]

Go for the 2nd job! Its not like she has been working at the place for 2 days then walks out on them, screwing them over.

 

[Mister T]

what are the terms of her current employment agreement?
and will her new potential employer put her offer in writing?

 

[Nocturnal]

Is this something most people would do? Jump into the other job that will pay more $?

 

[Nocturnal]

Originally posted by: Mister T
what are the terms of her current employment agreement?
and will her new potential employer put her offer in writing?

No idea, she still has to actually call the lady and talk to her. But I was just saying hypothetically what would you do or what should she do.

 

[Mister T]

most definitely...

depends on how much more.... and whether her current employment binds her for X amount of time... like she signed a 2-yr contract for example

 

[Ns1]

Originally posted by: Nocturnal
Is this something most people would do? Jump into the other job that will pay more $?

it's not like they wouldn't fire her if they needed to...employee loyalty is a thing of the past

 

[cavemanmoron]

telll the new place put it in writing,and she needs 2 weeks notice for the old place

make sure to be nice to the current employer,and tell them,she has a chance to go full time at the other place

 

[Nocturnal]

She's already full-time at her current job. She was part-time and they recently made her position full-time.

 

[Kelvrick]

How much more? What about the current work environment?

My job pays less then other places and I get a lot more responsibility but everyone is friendly and the boss will really help you out if you're down on your luck. He buys movie tickets for everyone for the big openings and pretty much buys everyone lunch about every other day. It evens out and I really like it there.

EDIT: Also, ask if the current place will match the offer.

 

[Mister T]

what would be ther % increase in her salary?

 

[Bryophyte]

How much does the current job pay and what benefits?

 

[Nocturnal]

Yeah about the environment... she likes her current environment a lot. That's the only thing I told her she would have to worry about. What if she goes there and they really don't like her or the atmosphere is hostile etc. It's a big thing to think/take up on. She currently makes non-salary $10.50 an hour. At the other job she may get 30k salary.

 

[Bryophyte]

She should visit the potential jobsite, meeting potential coworkers. That's over 8000k difference per year, and full benefits. What benefits does she have now? Benefits are worth thousands more on top of salary.

 

[Angrymarshmello]

Um, what's the ethical problem here? There's no such thing anymore as working all your life for one company and getting a fat pension when you retire. Employees are expendable. Employers nowadays don't really give a sh!t whose working for them as long as they make money.

If she wants that other job, (and can get it) then tell her to turn in her 2 weeks to her old job and go for it. Big whoop.

 

[Mister T]

no brainer....

10.50 X (40 hours per week) x (50 weeks a year) = 21,000

New job = 30,000

43% increase !! and salaried w/ benefits

 

[Bryophyte]

If she gets a firm offer, she could also let her current employer know, if she thinks they want to keep her badly enough to make changes in her current pay rate. "I have been offered a job that pays xx and gives me benefits. I really like working here, but I need to make the decision that is in my best interests." blah blah blah

 

[MichaelD]

Originally posted by: BigDan
She should visit the potential jobsite, meeting potential coworkers. That's over 8000k difference per year, and full benefits. What benefits does she have now? Benefits are worth thousands more on top of salary.

*ding-ding-ding* That's the ticket right there. Also, what many others have said. Two weeks notice, etc. $8K/year diff is a BIG difference in pay. Like $666 a month diff. That's almost a rent payment right there, or car + ins payment! :Q

Environment is important, but MONEY is a lot more important than anything. Have the new employer put EVERYTHING in writing. Salary, benefits, terms of employment, etc.

Good luck and good on you for doing the research for your GF.

I did all that stuff for my ex GF...did it for 3.5 years...too bad she never got any smarter, though. I hope your GF does get smarter.

 

[AlienCraft]

Originally posted by: BigDan
If she gets a firm offer, she could also let her current employer know, if she thinks they want to keep her badly enough to make changes in her current pay rate. "I have been offered a job that pays xx and gives me benefits. I really like working here, but I need to make the decision that is in my best interests." blah blah blah

This is the best answer so far. That way the company has an opportunity to match the prospective offer, they will see she is at least conscious of her responsibility.
Congrats to the GF , btw.

 

[fatkorean]

ahh but salary can be a pain.. what if she has to work 80 hours a week? then that 30k drops a lot if you factor it in to per hour...

-fk

 

[Bryophyte]

Originally posted by: fatkorean
ahh but salary can be a pain.. what if she has to work 80 hours a week? then that 30k drops a lot if you factor it in to per hour...

-fk

Well, the job responsibilities and hours can be worked out before accepting. And 10.50 isn't much above minimum wage...does she plan on living that way forever? You've gotta make the moves when they present themselves. Just don't blab about anything at the current workplace until you have a firm offer in hand.

 

[KenGr]

If the new job looks good, go for it and never look back. (Well, do give notice and leave gracefully.)

The suggestion that you negotiate to match the new salary is bad. So they decide they need her to stay for a while and give her an increase. She's now overpaid and will never get another decent raise. Plus they know she's looking around so they may tend not to trust her with better jobs.

P.S. If she feels guilty, tell her sex will take her mind off it.

 

[Cyberian]

Originally posted by: KenGr
If the new job looks good, go for it and never look back. (Well, do give notice and leave gracefully.)

The suggestion that you negotiate to match the new salary is bad. So they decide they need her to stay for a while and give her an increase. She's now overpaid and will never get another decent raise. Plus they know she's looking around so they may tend not to trust her with better jobs.

P.S. If she feels guilty, tell her sex will take her mind off it.

LOL - Yeah!!