Need reasons to let dad let me overclock...

[holdencommodore]

I reckon the best long-term solution is to save up and build your own rig. That's how I started about 8 years ago - now I've got several AMD systems which I tinker with... which is comes in handy for the soundcard beta testing I do (which sometimes results in instabilities)...

It may be a ah heck saving up, but your life will be much easier in the long run!


Cheers

 

[AgaBoogaBoo]

Originally posted by: holdencommodore
I reckon the best long-term solution is to save up and build your own rig. That's how I started about 8 years ago - now I've got several AMD systems which I tinker with... which is comes in handy for the soundcard beta testing I do (which sometimes results in instabilities)...

It may be a ah heck saving up, but your life will be much easier in the long run!


Cheers

Yeah, I see what you're saying but in my situation many of the parts are for the past 3 report cards in high school, all A's or A-'s. Also for a few other things, but what I think I might do is save an extra $200, buy a nicer video card and get a 2.8C.

 

[J Heartless Slick]

Originally posted by: AgaBooga
He thinks I'm going to burn the cpu overclocking or something. I do n't want to go against what he says but at the same time I want to overclock. If I can get some good reasons, then I'll tell him and ask him again. The only one I can think of is that I won't change the voltage settings so it doesn't generate too much heat.

I need some more reasons, I'll be using a 2.4C (800mhz FSB and HT) to overclock on a DFI Lan Party Pro motherboard.

It is a bad idea to overclock someone elses computer.

 

[CTho9305]

What happens if your dad is doing tax data and your "stable" overclock gives an incorrect result, costing your family thousands of dollars in fines? What happens if your overclock crashes the computer six months down the road when your dad just wrote a ten page presentation for work? What happens if you DO manage to kill it?

Intel called it a 2.4 because it didn't produce correct results in tests at a higher speed (though they test with crappy cooling, etc to be CERTAIN that it works in all environments). Don't overclock any serious machines. Overclocking is for gamers and people who are willing to take risks.

Originally posted by: MichaelD
1. Wait another 6 years
2. Get a job
3. Move out
4. Buy your own damn computer
5. Overclock it

 

[DaMutha]

If you have to ask for reasons to overclock, it appears that you don't need to overclock.

 

[Crassus]

I remember having O/Ced my dads computer at work because it was so slow. It was a 486 DX2 / 66 (to 80). And it was neccessary, because he had a database prog which took something like half a weekend to reorganize data.
But what do you gain from ocing a 2.4 Gig rig?! BTW, while doing that I melted a chip (from Chips&Technologies, as far as I remember) on the mainboard. When I had a closer look, it looked like when wet paint was running down the wall.
Anyway, o/cing s/o elses system can lead to all sorts of problems. You might not want to hear that, but believe me, it might cost you way more time in the end to fix things, re-install programms (even the OS sometimes), and so on. I learned it the hard way, you don't need to. And, as ChefJoe pointed out already, even if you're completely innocent, if something fails, YOU will be the one to get the blame.

 

[EdipisReks]

Originally posted by: CTho9305

Intel called it a 2.4 because it didn't produce correct results in tests at a higher speed (though they test with crappy cooling, etc to be CERTAIN that it works in all environments).

not necessarily.

Don't overclock any serious machines. Overclocking is for gamers and people who are willing to take risks.

plenty of non overclocked machines have done all that stuff you mentioned. it's called errata while i agree that he shouldn't oc his dad's machine, there are plenty of chips that can run above their "rated" speed with perfect stabilty.

 

[AgaBoogaBoo]

My bad, I didn't mean to say it was HIS computer. It is technically his because hes going to buy it, but it will be mine, in my room. He has his own laptop, my brothers got his own computer, me too, and a server for all. I would be overclocking on min e, and it will be used in mainly a gaming enviroment, no mission critical stuff

 

[DTSS]

Originally posted by: AthlonXP

Originally posted by: MichaelD
1. Wait another 6 years
2. Get a job
3. Move out
4. Buy your own damn computer
5. Overclock it

 

[DTSS]

Dude, why overclock? Overclocking is a waste of time with todays systems. If he's buying you a system...be happy w/ what you get.

If you dad is going to buy you a system ; you need to still ask him if you can overclock! Then ain't really yours!


Daryl -DTSS

 

[SpeedFreak03]

I don't mean to sound "ungeek-like" but from past experiences I've learned that if it ain't broke don't fix it, mod it, tweak it (except for software), etc UNLESS you can pay to fix anything that might get f*cked up in the process.

 

[Barnaby W. Füi]

1. What MichaelD said.
2. TWO POINT FOUR GIGAHERTZ isn't fast enough? WTF>!!?
3. Overclocking is generally fairly pointless, the fact that your computer is already doing 2,400,000,000 operations per SECOND makes it even more so IMO.
4. My dad never bought a computer, be happy you have what you have.

 

[Barnaby W. Füi]

Originally posted by: SpeedFreak03
I don't mean to sound "ungeek-like" but from past experiences I've learned that if it ain't broke don't fix it, mod it, tweak it (except for software), etc UNLESS you can pay to fix anything that might get f*cked up in the process.

Sorry but overclocking does not make you a geek, it's basically the computer equivelant of ricing your car a little. Most (most, not all! chill!) overclockers are just kids who don't know much, and have nothing more mentally stimulating to do than to crank up a dial and stare at temperature readings. Sure there are some super experienced, smart overclockers, but for the most part it's people trying to participate in something "cool" or "dangerous".

 

[CraigRT]

oh brother.. if that was me i'd be so frustrated.. just overclock it and make sure it's running stable before he gets to use it... overclocking is absolutely nothing to worry about.. i've yet to see a component fail due to overclocking.. IMO there is nothing to worry about.. but that's just me.

 

[EdipisReks]

Originally posted by: CraigRT
i've yet to see a component fail due to overclocking.. IMO there is nothing to worry about.. but that's just me.

i've never heard a credible tale of a component failing due to an overclock when everything is set up properly i.e. sufficient heatsink, etc.

 

[EdipisReks]

also, to everyone saying that it's pointless to overclock because the chip is so fast, i'm assuming that you guys aren't going to upgrade for years and years, since stuff is so fast now. right? yeah, i didn't think so. fast is relative. compared to faster, fast is slow. even going from 2.4 to 2.7 (i got a bum c1, unfortunately) i noticed a marked difference in unreal 2 and splinter cell. faster is always better as long as it's stable. since the computer is in your room, Agabooga, and you are the one who will be using it, why don't you just overclock it? it's not going to burn up. even if you don't keep it overclocked, go ahead and see what it will do. imo, just because your dad doesn't want you to do something doesn't necessarily make it "wrong" to do it. my father (who is a brilliant man ) and i disagree all the time on stuff. my dad is more often than not wrong about what we disagree with. just because your father contributed genetic material to you doesn't make him the god head.

 

[ProviaFan]

Originally posted by: AgaBooga
My bad, I didn't mean to say it was HIS computer. It is technically his because hes going to buy it, but it will be mine, in my room. He has his own laptop, my brothers got his own computer, me too, and a server for all. I would be overclocking on min e, and it will be used in mainly a gaming enviroment, no mission critical stuff

Well, I would say definitely don't play with it if it was his machine that he used for business. Heck, my parents' machine runs a stock Win2k Pro install, non-overclocked and non-tweaked, and whenever it has any problems (usually related to my ICS server not dialing out when they need internet access because my ISP is having problems), I get the blame for it (well, from my dad; my mom is usually more understanding, despite the fact that she knows less about computers than he does). Trust me, it's not fun.

Now, what I don't understand, is why he's not going to let you overclock a machine that he's giving you (unless your dad has a strange concept of giving). My parents don't have any problems with me overclocking my main box (well, I paid for most of it, but a few of the parts came from them). Perhaps that's just because they don't even know what overclocking is...

Needless to say, it's not overclocked right now because I'm working on some important projects and don't want any trouble whatsoever.