Need Radar Detector

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I need a new Radar Detector. My old Bel Express 936 has a bad power-cord interface. I hit a bump and the thing will reset/reboot. I've opened it up and it doesn't seem like anything obvious to fix.. anyways I've considered up to an Escort Redline so i'm open to suggestions from experienced users.
 
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JackBurton

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I have a Redline and love it, however Escort has just released the Passport Max which sets out to combine the GPS capabilities of the 9500ix with the long range performance of the Redline. Initial reports are very good, so I'd put that in the running.

Also check out the Valentine One. With its patented directional arrows and multi-threat alerts, it's a great detector to consider too.
 
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Elganja

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i have a redline myself... haven't really messed with the app yet though for the long range deally
 
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What I've found before is my Garmin GPS is more accurate than my Speedometer. I cross checked it with an app from my phone and it was reading the same as the Garmin. Is there any Radar Detector that has that capability on the high end?
 

Gillbot

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Well they're not heavy. Hows that!? :p

If you need a radar detector, they must be heavier than you think!

Anyway, I've always been told that the Valentine One is nice, I just can't get past it's price. Aside from that, I use trapster, but I honestly don't need it since I only run a nickle over at max.
 

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How much actual time do you save by requiring a detector.

Most places you are safe at/below 9.

Is the 10 minutes you save on a 60 mile drive by going 10 faster than "safe" that valuable? :confused:
 

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I have a 9500ix; it works well. I would like to see the Max, but I don't know that I would shell out more for it.

As others have said the GPS is more accurate that my spedo's - Funny part is that I find that I'm actually driving slower since purchasing the unit.
 

jlee

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Yeah, GPS is (in my experience) quite accurate. I've tested my old Garmin at +/-1mph to a calibrated radar unit.
 

SyndromeOCZ

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I use the 9500i and its saved me a good few times. I've saved about 45 minutes on a '3 hour' trip. Though I was younger then and don't do it as often anymore.
 

JackBurton

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Am I seeing things or are they selling the Max for close to 2k on eBay? lol eF no!

It was just released and they are backed up on the orders. People are just trying to make a quick buck. Just give it a little bit until Escort can catch up with demand. MSRP on it is about $550 and I wouldn't pay a nickel more.
 
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railer

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How much actual time do you save by requiring a detector.

Most places you are safe at/below 9.

Is the 10 minutes you save on a 60 mile drive by going 10 faster than "safe" that valuable? :confused:

I don't know where you live....but here in the great state of NY, speeding fines are a great revenue generator. And as such, the town, county and state PD just drive around with their radar on at all times, just hoping to catch you snoozing on a road that is perfectly safe for 90 mph, but instead is marked 40 or 50 or 55 or maybe 65 mph. Radar detectors help prevent those little lapses that we all have. RD's are also nice when I'm behind some jackhole going 50 in 55, and I need to quickly blip up to speed and get in and out of the passing lane in a few seconds, and not worry about some traffic maid popping me for say 75 in a 55 when I'm performing a perfectly safe pass.
On the highway, sure I set it for 9 mph over the limit, and cruise along, no RD needed for those trips.

I'm still rocking the Escort Solo from quite a few years ago. The range on it sucks by today's standards, but I use it more as a reminder for the above situations, so it works well for me. I was pretty happy with the range on Beltronics 955 that I picked up for the wife last year for around $150.
 
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How does my Bel Express 936 fair in comparison these days? I've wrapped electrical tape around the unit to keep the wire securely intact to the unit and it seems to be holding fine.
 

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RD's are also nice when I'm behind some jackhole going 50 in 55, and I need to quickly blip up to speed and get in and out of the passing lane in a few seconds, and not worry about some traffic maid popping me for say 75 in a 55 when I'm performing a perfectly safe pass.
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That's exactly how I got my last ticket. I HATE to take long to pass. You never know if the other person sees you or not. People always make random lane changes for no reason and without signalling. I like to just quickly make the pass and get back over and settle back to a comfortable speed.

The next day I bought the Escort 9500xi and have been happy with it. GPS, it eliminates false alarms, picks up traditional radar far in advance. It's paid for itself. IL is broke as shit and they raised the min tickets from $75 to $115 several years ago + extra for the class to avoid it going on your record. So they've been giving out WAY more tickets for the extra revenue.

The expressways here are 55, good luck if you actually try and go that slow, you'll get run off the road.
 

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I don't know where you live....but here in the great state of NY, speeding fines are a great revenue generator. And as such, the town, county and state PD just drive around with their radar on at all times, just hoping to catch you snoozing on a road that is perfectly safe for 90 mph, but instead is marked 40 or 50 or 55 or maybe 65 mph. Radar detectors help prevent those little lapses that we all have. RD's are also nice when I'm behind some jackhole going 50 in 55, and I need to quickly blip up to speed and get in and out of the passing lane in a few seconds, and not worry about some traffic maid popping me for say 75 in a 55 when I'm performing a perfectly safe pass.
On the highway, sure I set it for 9 mph over the limit, and cruise along, no RD needed for those trips.

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Having worked for multiple state DOT; what you feel is a safe speed for one car is not safe speed for multiple cars within the same geographical area.
The speed limits are attempted to be set for safety, not convenience.

If the limit is 55 and you have to go 75 to pas then there are two issues.

One: There should have been not need to pass legally; justifies the ticket.
Two: A 55 road is designed to be safe at 65-70; not at 75. So by you going 15 over the designed limit; you are endangering others as well as increasing the risk to yourself.

Presently, I am in the area of central Michigan; primary limited access highways have a limit of 70 - one can do 80 and still be passed. The other day, one of Michigan's finest blew by me (no lights) while I was going 78 via cruise control)

The LEO know what the acceptable safe speed is for most any roadway; revenue generators are due to people thinking that they know better.
 

Hugo L.

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Two: A 55 road is designed to be safe at 65-70; not at 75. So by you going 15 over the designed limit; you are endangering others as well as increasing the risk to yourself.

Many 55 roads were designed in what, the 60s, when cars couldn't handle or brake for shit and had the structural intergrity of a tuna can.

I'm sorry, but given how much cars have evolved, and how safer they are, speed limits nowadays are simply ways for counties/cities to make money. Limits should be a lot, lot higher.

If safety was the #1 concern, then emphasis would be put in building better-designed, longer-lasting roads, not on slowing people to accomodate how bad the road is.
 

JCH13

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Many 55 roads were designed in what, the 60s, when cars couldn't handle or brake for shit and had the structural intergrity of a tuna can.

I'm sorry, but given how much cars have evolved, and how safer they are, speed limits nowadays are simply ways for counties/cities to make money. Limits should be a lot, lot higher.

If safety was the #1 concern, then emphasis would be put in building better-designed, longer-lasting roads, not on slowing people to accomodate how bad the road is.

Your argument could be valid if there were rigorous safety and maintenance inspections in every state, every driver paid perfect attention, and nothing could ever possibly obstruct the road.

MI, for example, has no vehicle safety inspections. There will be people driving around on corded tires with worn brake pads and failed struts.

Glancing down to adjust the radio, climate control, etc, (let alone texting) gets considerably more dangerous as speeds increase.

Going faster reduces your available time to avoid animals that go onto the road, debris that is left on the road, or slower/stopped vehicles. This is compounded by elevation changes and turns.

You also ignore that vehicles are only tested to survive 60-70mph impacts. Going even a little faster at 80mph increases your vehicles energy by 30% over 70mph. Good luck dissipating that excess energy and not splattering your face all over the windshield.

Get out of your fantasy land where everything is perfect and start considering your ideas in the context of the real world.
 

SearchMaster

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Is the 10 minutes you save on a 60 mile drive by going 10 faster than "safe" that valuable? :confused:

I agree with you generally, and usually stay within 5MPH of the limit. However when you start thinking about a 5-7 hour trip, those 10 minutes per hour start to really add up. Would you like to arrive at your destination a full HOUR sooner? Hmmmmm.....
 

olds

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Do any of the detectors have blue tooth so I could hear it in my motorcycle helmet?
GPS/Detector combo?