Need pin-mod help for Thorton.

[bupkus]

The ocinside.de website has the following quote about using their Pin-Mod Guide.

Very important, if you've already an option to change the multi in your BIOS, you HAVE TO change this multiplier to "Autodetect" !!!
unless you just like to use the unlock function in the Pin-Mod guide) The same applies to the Vcore, please also leave the Vcore settings of your BIOS (if existing) at Default respectively at Autodetect if you like to change the Vcore with the Pin-Mod guide.
Please cut all L11 bridges if you like to select a Vcore with the Pin-Mod guide, otherwise you're just able to build a higher Vcore depending to the actual L11 bridge and Pin-Mod combinations.

Using the ECS K7VTA3, I don't have a BIOS adjustment for the vcore.

 

[myocardia]

Wouldn't the Thorton run the same vcore as all of the Bartons, since it's just a disabled Barton? You bump the voltage in the bios, but since you've got an ECS board, you aren't going to be able to, I'm pretty sure.

 

[pspada]

What ECS board? If it's the K7S5A Pro, it does not support 166.

 

[bupkus]

Originally posted by: pspada
What ECS board? If it's the K7S5A Pro, it does not support 166.

K7VTA3... I'm pretty sure it's the cpu cause i had another combo identical to this and it climbed into 166 w/o a problem.

 

[pspada]

Yup, that board supports 166. But depending on the revision number, it may well have a jumper setting it to 100 or 133/166, could that be the problem?

 

[bupkus]

Originally posted by: pspada
Yup, that board supports 166. But depending on the revision number, it may well have a jumper setting it to 100 or 133/166, could that be the problem?

I bought two of these combos way back and one oc'd and the other didn't. Go figure.

 

[AkumaX]

whao.. that sucks..

what heatsink? t-paste?

 

[superHARD]

Same psu as before?

 

[bupkus]

Originally posted by: superHARD
Same psu as before?

I think so... 350 Antec.

Temps seemed low as house temps are lower this time of year.

I divorced the K7VTA3/Thorton combo and installed the better Thorton and it worked so I suspect I have a weak thorton.
I just bought the K7VTA3/Duron combo from Frys so I'm going to try the misbehaving Thorton with the new K7VTA3 and an SLK-900(A) and Arctic Silver 5. If is balks, I'm gonna try the pin/socket voltage trick. It's just that that graphical tool needs some explanation to accompany it's use. For example, if the Thorton comes with 1.65v as all the Bartons at newegg supposedly do, you would expect that using the pin/socket tool would show no modifications required, yet it shows 4 mods needed, 1.675v shows 2 needed, and 1.700v shows 3 needed.
I just don't feel comfortable with this. Infact, the graphical shows no difference between the Barton, T-Bred and Athlon XP.
They all show the same mods in these voltage ranges.
Also, if modding the 1.65v to a chip that's already 1.65v by default, is this just a safe redundancy?
Lastly, what wire is small enough that one can lay them in the socket holes to share voltage sources?

 

[MDE]

You can use individual strands of speaker wire to do the mod. The mod does work, but you need a steady hand, patience, and you need to triple check the wires before you drop the CPU in and fire it up.

 

[bupkus]

Originally posted by: MonkeyDriveExpress
You can use individual strands of speaker wire to do the mod. The mod does work, but you need a steady hand, patience, and you need to triple check the wires before you drop the CPU in and fire it up.

I did the mod to a stated 1.675 but the bios says 1.72 or 1.74 and it runs hot at 50c under light load. I could try the 1.650 mod but that's where I should be by default. Still, it's probably worth the attempt. I find this type of mod easy enough to do. I just hate using conducting fluids on the cpu like back with the older Athlons. Too bad ocinside.de doesn't have an English speaking forum.