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CZroe

Lifer
Jun 24, 2001
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Originally posted by: Pepsi90919
lol @ OP. blaming everybody but himself for his mistakes.

LOL dumbass can't read. "The OP" asked for nothing more than recovery software. Microsoft is to blame for malfunctioning software, not for the FTP ransacking that the workaround *predictably* led to.

I had the option to come in here and ask for recovery software without any "backstory" but I thought it would be entertaining to those "in the know" like me and a warning for those who don't know what can happen. Instead, I stepped into a schoolyard pissing ground where people have to keep experiences secret lest they be made fun of. Grow up!

If I were incompetant and admitted it, I'd probably have sympathy. I guess it's just impossible for someone competant to relate something like this. Strange that we should shut up and let it happen to people who really don't know better.
 

CZroe

Lifer
Jun 24, 2001
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Originally posted by: KLin
Please no one help him since he can't find the correct forum to post this in. :p. Oh one more thing. OWNED!!!!!!!!!11111111111 :laugh:

This was the correct forum. My decision was based on need and forum traffic and it paid off. I was looking for more of a "live" discussion and it wouldn't have happened in a software forum. I'd likely still be waiting for an awesome list like chusteczka provided if I went there.
 

Pepsi90919

Lifer
Oct 9, 1999
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Originally posted by: CZroe
Originally posted by: Pepsi90919
lol @ OP. blaming everybody but himself for his mistakes.

LOL dumbass can't read. "The OP" asked for nothing more than recovery software. Microsoft is to blame for malfunctioning software, not for the FTP ransacking that the workaround *predictably* led to.

I had the option to come in here and ask for recovery software without any "backstory" but I thought it would be entertaining to those "in the know" like me and a warning for those who don't know what can happen. Instead, I stepped into a schoolyard pissing ground where people have to keep experiences secret lest they be made fun of. Grow up!

If I were incompetant and admitted it, I'd probably have sympathy. I guess it's just impossible for someone competant to relate something like this. Strange that we should shut up and let it happen to people who really don't know better.

...and you continue to blame everything but yourself...
 

Goosemaster

Lifer
Apr 10, 2001
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Originally posted by: Pepsi90919
Originally posted by: CZroe
Originally posted by: Pepsi90919
lol @ OP. blaming everybody but himself for his mistakes.

LOL dumbass can't read. "The OP" asked for nothing more than recovery software. Microsoft is to blame for malfunctioning software, not for the FTP ransacking that the workaround *predictably* led to.

I had the option to come in here and ask for recovery software without any "backstory" but I thought it would be entertaining to those "in the know" like me and a warning for those who don't know what can happen. Instead, I stepped into a schoolyard pissing ground where people have to keep experiences secret lest they be made fun of. Grow up!

If I were incompetant and admitted it, I'd probably have sympathy. I guess it's just impossible for someone competant to relate something like this. Strange that we should shut up and let it happen to people who really don't know better.

...and you continue to blame everything but yourself...

1. we don't need a warnign about IIS....it's implied:laugh: Hell they should put "black hat conference certified: HACKABLE" on there for sh!ts and giggles....

2. the error was yours. You leave an ftp wide open and it's your own damn fault. didn't know what you were doing? Not MS's fault. Many people run secure IIS servers. It's a bitch and you have to patch it like an ER patient that is bleeding out and isn't clotting, but it is doable, and many people have success stories to back that up.


3. many people including myself have given you great recommendations, and yet you continue to discuss this "backstory" as if you can some how vindicate yourself or place blame elsewhere. We KNOW that you are at fault.*




*= 4. We KNOW that you are at fault because...LOFl..AHAHAHHA...dude, because you are NOT "in the know"

:laugh:
 

CZroe

Lifer
Jun 24, 2001
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Originally posted by: Pepsi90919
Originally posted by: CZroe
Originally posted by: Pepsi90919
lol @ OP. blaming everybody but himself for his mistakes.

LOL dumbass can't read. "The OP" asked for nothing more than recovery software. Microsoft is to blame for malfunctioning software, not for the FTP ransacking that the workaround *predictably* led to.

I had the option to come in here and ask for recovery software without any "backstory" but I thought it would be entertaining to those "in the know" like me and a warning for those who don't know what can happen. Instead, I stepped into a schoolyard pissing ground where people have to keep experiences secret lest they be made fun of. Grow up!

If I were incompetant and admitted it, I'd probably have sympathy. I guess it's just impossible for someone competant to relate something like this. Strange that we should shut up and let it happen to people who really don't know better.

...and you continue to blame everything but yourself...

End it. The very definition of trolling. Just because some OT posts were made for this type of converstaion doesn't mean that this one was. I'm sorry you can't wrap your limited understanding of cause and effect around this but that shouldn't be my problem... you've already said what you had to say. Don't think you've undermined anything I've said.

All I did was what I was forced to do when I was fully aware of the consequences. What I predicted could happen did happen but that doesn't mean that I am to blame. If I were stuck in the exact same situation I'D DO IT AGAIN. Why? Because I have the ability to weigh consequences and determine what's more important. Fail a class because of my inability to produce an essay or potentially lose some pictures and stuff that I can get again? Hmm, not a tough call. END OF STORY.

Oh wait, you're right. I did continue to blame everything but myself! I've had a revelation and it's all thanks to you. :roll: For the record, Microsoft != everything and my actions were informed and deliberate. So you say that they aren't blameless and I say that they are (my paper's grade and my financial aid status agree). I have every reason to continue explaining while you aren't obligated to say anything else. So just don't.
 

Goosemaster

Lifer
Apr 10, 2001
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Originally posted by: CZroe
Originally posted by: Pepsi90919
Originally posted by: CZroe
Originally posted by: Pepsi90919
lol @ OP. blaming everybody but himself for his mistakes.

LOL dumbass can't read. "The OP" asked for nothing more than recovery software. Microsoft is to blame for malfunctioning software, not for the FTP ransacking that the workaround *predictably* led to.

I had the option to come in here and ask for recovery software without any "backstory" but I thought it would be entertaining to those "in the know" like me and a warning for those who don't know what can happen. Instead, I stepped into a schoolyard pissing ground where people have to keep experiences secret lest they be made fun of. Grow up!

If I were incompetant and admitted it, I'd probably have sympathy. I guess it's just impossible for someone competant to relate something like this. Strange that we should shut up and let it happen to people who really don't know better.

...and you continue to blame everything but yourself...

End it. The very definition of trolling. Just because some OT posts were made for this type of converstaion doesn't mean that this one was. I'm sorry you can't wrap your limited understanding of cause and effect around this but that shouldn't be my problem... you've already said what you had to say. Don't think you've undermined anything I've said.

All I did was what I was forced to do when I was fully aware of the consequences. What I predicted could happen did happen but that doesn't mean that I am to blame. If I were stuck in the exact same situation I'D DO IT AGAIN. Why? Because I have the ability to weigh consequences and determine what's more important. Fail a class because of my inability to produce an essay or potentially lose some pictures and stuff that I can get again? Hmm, not a tough call. END OF STORY.

Oh wait, you're right. I did continue to blame everything but myself! I've had a revelation and it's all thanks to you. :roll: For the record, Microsoft != everything and my actions were informed and deliberate. So you say that they aren't blameless and I say that they are (my paper's grade and my financial aid status agree). I have every reason to continue explaining while you aren't obligated to say anything else. So just don't.

:laugh:



 

randay

Lifer
May 30, 2006
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Originally posted by: CZroe
Like I said, it was not an "ease of use" thing, it was malfunctioning. It was refusing access when it shouldn't.

We have a phrase for people like you. PEBKAC. You don't deserve to pass any class having anything to do with computers if you truely believe that it "malfunctioned" and "refused to access". Its a fvcking computer. It does what you tell it to. Its because you don't know what you are doing... Maybe you should be majoring in english, or I don't know... DRAMA.
 

DurocShark

Lifer
Apr 18, 2001
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Originally posted by: Goosemaster
Originally posted by: CZroe
Originally posted by: Pepsi90919
Originally posted by: CZroe
Originally posted by: Pepsi90919
lol @ OP. blaming everybody but himself for his mistakes.

LOL dumbass can't read. "The OP" asked for nothing more than recovery software. Microsoft is to blame for malfunctioning software, not for the FTP ransacking that the workaround *predictably* led to.

I had the option to come in here and ask for recovery software without any "backstory" but I thought it would be entertaining to those "in the know" like me and a warning for those who don't know what can happen. Instead, I stepped into a schoolyard pissing ground where people have to keep experiences secret lest they be made fun of. Grow up!

If I were incompetant and admitted it, I'd probably have sympathy. I guess it's just impossible for someone competant to relate something like this. Strange that we should shut up and let it happen to people who really don't know better.

...and you continue to blame everything but yourself...

End it. The very definition of trolling. Just because some OT posts were made for this type of converstaion doesn't mean that this one was. I'm sorry you can't wrap your limited understanding of cause and effect around this but that shouldn't be my problem... you've already said what you had to say. Don't think you've undermined anything I've said.

All I did was what I was forced to do when I was fully aware of the consequences. What I predicted could happen did happen but that doesn't mean that I am to blame. If I were stuck in the exact same situation I'D DO IT AGAIN. Why? Because I have the ability to weigh consequences and determine what's more important. Fail a class because of my inability to produce an essay or potentially lose some pictures and stuff that I can get again? Hmm, not a tough call. END OF STORY.

Oh wait, you're right. I did continue to blame everything but myself! I've had a revelation and it's all thanks to you. :roll: For the record, Microsoft != everything and my actions were informed and deliberate. So you say that they aren't blameless and I say that they are (my paper's grade and my financial aid status agree). I have every reason to continue explaining while you aren't obligated to say anything else. So just don't.

:laugh:

You wrote a paper on this?

:laugh:

EDIT: Oh, and you're "in the know" yet didn't know that this would happen?!?!?!

:laugh: :laugh:
 

CZroe

Lifer
Jun 24, 2001
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Originally posted by: Goosemaster
Originally posted by: Pepsi90919
Originally posted by: CZroe
Originally posted by: Pepsi90919
lol @ OP. blaming everybody but himself for his mistakes.

LOL dumbass can't read. "The OP" asked for nothing more than recovery software. Microsoft is to blame for malfunctioning software, not for the FTP ransacking that the workaround *predictably* led to.

I had the option to come in here and ask for recovery software without any "backstory" but I thought it would be entertaining to those "in the know" like me and a warning for those who don't know what can happen. Instead, I stepped into a schoolyard pissing ground where people have to keep experiences secret lest they be made fun of. Grow up!

If I were incompetant and admitted it, I'd probably have sympathy. I guess it's just impossible for someone competant to relate something like this. Strange that we should shut up and let it happen to people who really don't know better.

...and you continue to blame everything but yourself...

1. we don't need a warnign about IIS....it's implied:laugh: Hell they should put "black hat conference certified: HACKABLE" on there for sh!ts and giggles....

2. the error was yours. You leave an ftp wide open and it's your own damn fault. didn't know what you were doing? Not MS's fault. Many people run secure IIS servers. It's a bitch and you have to patch it like an ER patient that is bleeding out and isn't clotting, but it is doable, and many people have success stories to back that up.


3. many people including myself have given you great recommendations, and yet you continue to discuss this "backstory" as if you can some how vindicate yourself or place blame elsewhere. We KNOW that you are at fault.*




*= 4. We KNOW that you are at fault because...LOFl..AHAHAHHA...dude, because you are NOT "in the know"

:laugh:
"LOFl..AHAHAHHA" all you want, but you clearly only think that I'm not "in the know" because you too misinterpreted things.

#1. Nothing was hacked. The "warning" has nothing to do with IIS. It's not for people running FTP servers today (they SHOULD know better). It is for people who possibly have no Internet experience and may someday remember things like this when they do. I'm not even saying that they need to know not to leave an FTP with Read/Write access, I'm saying that they need to know other details like undeletable folders and how to spot strange activity.
#2. How can you say that I "didn't know what I was doing" when I knew exactly what I was doing AND the potential consequences BEFORE they happened (right down to the undeletable folders and warez couriers)? Yes, many people run secure IIS servers with success stories. I'm reporting a horror story, not an inability to operate IIS. I'm trained, certified and experienced. I was dealing with a problem that was likely due to corrupted ACL or security accounts database. It's a problem that persisted until the OS was reinstalled. I got all sorts of strange behavior, such as being able to log in only when accessing it through ftp://localhost instead of the actual IP (should be interchangable if everything is working correctly) and later with the IP but only being able to log in from the PC running the FTP server (inexplicably denied to other clients). Even if those issues were not directly related to IIS, enabling anonymous Read/Write access was the only way I could get another PC logged in to the FTP remotely. It's unfortunate that I was left with no time to backup my FTP or set a different root folder but trying to get proper login credentials to work had wasted all the time I had. Sure enough, after reinstalling XP and recreating the FTP, everything worked as it should. The problems I was having were NOT user error. In case you haven't figured it out yet, the MS/IIS problems I complained of had nothing directly to do with someone accessing and deleting my FTP contents. When you blame me for the "problem," you picked the wrong problem. I NEVER complained of there being a "problem" with wide open FTPs being ransacked.
#3. That's just it. What you "know" is incorrect. Just like M4H went around on DailyTech telling everyone that I did this on a Windows 2000 Server machine and that I was "surprised (both statements are as wrong as can be). Yes, trolling like this is not like him but he did this totally unprovoked before I made even the first reply. This goes to show that if you don't think an explanation is required to prevent rampant slander, you're wrong. If you thought that I'm doing this to protect my reputation from people within this thread, you're wrong.
#4. That's just fanning the flames. You read what you wanted to read to assert your superiority. I don't care if you have more real world experience, knowledge, certifications and really are superior (you could, I don't dispute it) but that doesn't make your interpretation of my level of competance correct. In fact, you're dead wrong.
 

CZroe

Lifer
Jun 24, 2001
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Originally posted by: DurocShark
Originally posted by: Goosemaster
Originally posted by: CZroe
Originally posted by: Pepsi90919
Originally posted by: CZroe
Originally posted by: Pepsi90919
lol @ OP. blaming everybody but himself for his mistakes.

LOL dumbass can't read. "The OP" asked for nothing more than recovery software. Microsoft is to blame for malfunctioning software, not for the FTP ransacking that the workaround *predictably* led to.

I had the option to come in here and ask for recovery software without any "backstory" but I thought it would be entertaining to those "in the know" like me and a warning for those who don't know what can happen. Instead, I stepped into a schoolyard pissing ground where people have to keep experiences secret lest they be made fun of. Grow up!

If I were incompetant and admitted it, I'd probably have sympathy. I guess it's just impossible for someone competant to relate something like this. Strange that we should shut up and let it happen to people who really don't know better.

...and you continue to blame everything but yourself...

End it. The very definition of trolling. Just because some OT posts were made for this type of converstaion doesn't mean that this one was. I'm sorry you can't wrap your limited understanding of cause and effect around this but that shouldn't be my problem... you've already said what you had to say. Don't think you've undermined anything I've said.

All I did was what I was forced to do when I was fully aware of the consequences. What I predicted could happen did happen but that doesn't mean that I am to blame. If I were stuck in the exact same situation I'D DO IT AGAIN. Why? Because I have the ability to weigh consequences and determine what's more important. Fail a class because of my inability to produce an essay or potentially lose some pictures and stuff that I can get again? Hmm, not a tough call. END OF STORY.

Oh wait, you're right. I did continue to blame everything but myself! I've had a revelation and it's all thanks to you. :roll: For the record, Microsoft != everything and my actions were informed and deliberate. So you say that they aren't blameless and I say that they are (my paper's grade and my financial aid status agree). I have every reason to continue explaining while you aren't obligated to say anything else. So just don't.

:laugh:

You wrote a paper on this?

:laugh:

EDIT: Oh, and you're "in the know" yet didn't know that this would happen?!?!?!

:laugh: :laugh:

AH HA HA HA HA HA! Another person who thinks I didn't know this could happen (BTW, "would" *is* the wrong word and I can argue it). And tried to make a point from it no less! No, I did not write a paper because I got no bites. I planned to back in Jan/Feb bu no bites = no material.
 

CZroe

Lifer
Jun 24, 2001
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Originally posted by: randay
Originally posted by: CZroe
Like I said, it was not an "ease of use" thing, it was malfunctioning. It was refusing access when it shouldn't.

We have a phrase for people like you. PEBKAC. You don't deserve to pass any class having anything to do with computers if you truely believe that it "malfunctioned" and "refused to access". Its a fvcking computer. It does what you tell it to. Its because you don't know what you are doing... Maybe you should be majoring in english, or I don't know... DRAMA.



I guess you've never encountered corrupted permissionsm mangled file systems or anything that has ever necessitated an OS reinstall. Computers don't do that to you. You're just a God. The very problem was that it wold not do what I told it to do.
 

spidey07

No Lifer
Aug 4, 2000
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Czroe,

Your machine is still compromised. Please fix it so we don't have to put up with bots/worms.
 

CZroe

Lifer
Jun 24, 2001
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126
Originally posted by: spidey07
Czroe,

Your machine is still compromised. Please fix it so we don't have to put up with bots/worms.

My machine was never compromised. I allowed someone to write files to a specific folder and they did. I allowed them to delete files and they did. Nothing was executed. Thanks, but what planet are you from?
 

spidey07

No Lifer
Aug 4, 2000
65,469
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you can get an FTP server to execute files if it isn't setup correctly.

My guess is you didn't set it up correctly.
 

KLin

Lifer
Feb 29, 2000
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Originally posted by: CZroe
Originally posted by: spidey07
Czroe,

Your machine is still compromised. Please fix it so we don't have to put up with bots/worms.

My machine was never compromised. I allowed someone to write files to a specific folder and they did. I allowed them to delete files and they did. Nothing was executed. Thanks, but what planet are you from?

You

/thread
 

CZroe

Lifer
Jun 24, 2001
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This was IIS with Read, Write, Delete, and List. There was no option to allow or deny the ability to execute, therefore it would have to be some freak unpatched exploit. There is no evidence of anything ever being executed. The files are deleted and gone. There's nothing left to serve and they never got more than a few NFO files uploaded for some pirated movie to begin with. Thanks but, why suspect that?
 

CZroe

Lifer
Jun 24, 2001
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Originally posted by: KLin
Originally posted by: CZroe
Originally posted by: spidey07
Czroe,

Your machine is still compromised. Please fix it so we don't have to put up with bots/worms.

My machine was never compromised. I allowed someone to write files to a specific folder and they did. I allowed them to delete files and they did. Nothing was executed. Thanks, but what planet are you from?

You

/thread

For the whatever-eth time, the only problem I ever blamed MS for was the problem that led up to "me" doing that. Your point? LOST. Reading comprehension++

EDIT
 

randay

Lifer
May 30, 2006
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Originally posted by: CZroe
I guess you've never encountered corrupted permissionsm mangled file systems or anything that has ever necessitated an OS reinstall.
No. Nothing necessitates an OS reinstall short of laziness/inability to fix the problem. So you couldn't fix the problem, fine. But blaming it on everything like a child blames the ground for scraping his knee is where you've gone wrong. "Stupid ground! It scraped my knee! Its all the grounds fault!".

Computers don't do that to you. You're just a God.
Whos trolling who?

The very problem was that it wold not do what I told it to do.
PEBKAC.
 

KLin

Lifer
Feb 29, 2000
30,518
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Originally posted by: DurocShark
Originally posted by: CZroe
I'm trained, certified and experienced.

/sends link to this thread to MS certification board

;)

(j/k in case any sarcasm meters are broken.)


OMG the OP sounds like one of the idiots that JonnyGURU would rant about in his famous stories!! "I'm a certified computer technician with 20+ years of experience!!" :laugh:
 

DurocShark

Lifer
Apr 18, 2001
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Originally posted by: spidey07
Originally posted by: DurocShark
Originally posted by: CZroe
I'm trained, certified and experienced.

Instantly comes to mind..

"Behold! I summon the powers of certification"

http://majezilla.blogspot.com/2004/11/behold-power-of-certification.html

I have that Dilbert cartoon in one of my Dilbert books. Still one of my favorite Dilberts ever. Somehow these "certified" idiots keep getting hired. Paper tigers. Sad, really.
 

CZroe

Lifer
Jun 24, 2001
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Originally posted by: randay
Originally posted by: CZroe
I guess you've never encountered corrupted permissionsm mangled file systems or anything that has ever necessitated an OS reinstall.
No. Nothing necessitates an OS reinstall short of laziness/inability to fix the problem. So you couldn't fix the problem, fine. But blaming it on everything like a child blames the ground for scraping his knee is where you've gone wrong. "Stupid ground! It scraped my knee! Its all the grounds fault!".

Computers don't do that to you. You're just a God.
Whos trolling who?

The very problem was that it wold not do what I told it to do.
PEBKAC.

Dillusional. Absolutly insane. If drive corruptions, poor drivers, software bugs, and a host of other problems never do irreperable damage to unprotected data, I guess then user error would always be to blame. There are many things that even with the source code to every piece of Windows you would have to be insane to fix. Use your imagination. Spend years reverse engineering a MS product or reinstall?

Originally posted by: DurocShark
Originally posted by: CZroe
I'm trained, certified and experienced.

/sends link to this thread to MS certification board

;)

(j/k in case any sarcasm meters are broken.)

Emphasis was on the experience anyway. I like how you assume it's Microsoft certifications that I already have. Obviously, I'm taking these classes for SOMETHING.

Originally posted by: KLin
Originally posted by: DurocShark
Originally posted by: CZroe
I'm trained, certified and experienced.

/sends link to this thread to MS certification board

;)

(j/k in case any sarcasm meters are broken.)


OMG the OP sounds like one of the idiots that JonnyGURU would rant about in his famous stories!! "I'm a certified computer technician with 20+ years of experience!!" :laugh:

And I'm totally capable of pointing out that other people are jumping to conclusions. I wonder why everyone thinks it's so much more than that? I've had to make the same correction a dozen times because everyone jumps to the same conclusion despite using things that I never even said.

This is great, fun even. I get to see just how many people are incapable of reading and how group mentality reinforces their first conslusion despite it being exactly opposite to what I said. "Well, everyone else thinks he said that so it must be true! That's exactly what he said!"

Originally posted by: DurocShark
Originally posted by: spidey07
Originally posted by: DurocShark
Originally posted by: CZroe
I'm trained, certified and experienced.

Instantly comes to mind..

"Behold! I summon the powers of certification"

http://majezilla.blogspot.com/2004/11/behold-power-of-certification.html

I have that Dilbert cartoon in one of my Dilbert books. Still one of my favorite Dilberts ever. Somehow these "certified" idiots keep getting hired. Paper tigers. Sad, really.

Like I didn't know that people would jump on the whole "Certification does mean anything; only experience counts" bandwagon. Aparantly, people are retarded because appending "experienced" to "certified" didn't derail you from thinking you had a point. Go back. Re-read it. It's there.